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My mother was raised on a farm. Shit most of my family was raised on a farm at one point or another, except my generation. One thing my mother has told me before was that if you weren't willing to butcher/slaughter the animal yourself, you shouldn't be eating it. You can't divorce your eating of a bacon cheeseburger from the act of taking a knife to the pigs throat and bleeding it dry, or an air hammer to a cows skull. My grandfather today was telling me how his mother would kill chickens by swinging them around by their necks until their heads came off. As she got too old she would have to set their heads on the ground and step on them, then pull the bodies until the head popped off. Of course all of this was while they were alive.

I am pro meat, but I think I probably couldn't man up to slaughtering an animal. Maybe its the blood, or the taking of life, but its really made me start thinking I should become a vegetarian. If I can't kill the animal myself I shouldn't be eating it right?

I'm curious what yalls thoughts are on this

Necronic said:

My mother was raised on a farm. Shit most of my family was raised on a farm at one point or another, except my generation. One thing my mother has told me before was that if you weren't willing to butcher/slaughter the animal yourself, you shouldn't be eating it. You can't divorce your eating of a bacon cheeseburger from the act of taking a knife to the pigs throat and bleeding it dry, or an air hammer to a cows skull. My grandfather today was telling me how his mother would kill chickens by swinging them around by their necks until their heads came off. As she got too old she would have to set their heads on the ground and step on them, then pull the bodies until the head popped off. Of course all of this was while they were alive.

I am pro meat, but I think I probably couldn't man up to slaughtering an animal. Maybe its the blood, or the taking of life, but its really made me start thinking I should become a vegetarian. If I can't kill the animal myself I shouldn't be eating it right?

I'm curious what yalls thoughts are on this

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If you can't manufacture every piece of silicone in your computer, and generate the electricity to run it yourself, then you shouldn't be posting on the internet.

That's what I think, at least.

Not having to kill the animals I eat is part of the world I live in I definitely take for granted, so much so that I'd be in a hell of a lot of trouble if all that went away.

If my life depended on me butchering an animal to eat and survive? Well, yeah, I'd do it. I'd just need a bucket next to me while I did it.

I think this is a pretty good rule of thumb. I'm a vegetarian. I'm not opposed to hunting, or farming ethically, but factory farming is not only horrifyingly inhumane, but terrible for ourselves as well - it's not sustainable and damages the environment which will in turn be harmful to us.

I don't exactly want to encourage people to stomp on the heads of living animals, but I think we've divorced ourselves too much from not just our food but pretty much everything. While such a rule wouldn't exactly be practical, I think it might be interesting to have a high school class that takes kids to see various kinds production factories to familiarize them with what goes into the products they buy, food included.

Ravenpoe said:

Necronic said:

My mother was raised on a farm. poop most of my family was raised on a farm at one point or another, except my generation. One thing my mother has told me before was that if you weren't willing to butcher/slaughter the animal yourself, you shouldn't be eating it. You can't divorce your eating of a bacon cheeseburger from the act of taking a knife to the pigs throat and bleeding it dry, or an air hammer to a cows skull. My grandfather today was telling me how his mother would kill chickens by swinging them around by their necks until their heads came off. As she got too old she would have to set their heads on the ground and step on them, then pull the bodies until the head popped off. Of course all of this was while they were alive.

I am pro meat, but I think I probably couldn't man up to slaughtering an animal. Maybe its the blood, or the taking of life, but its really made me start thinking I should become a vegetarian. If I can't kill the animal myself I shouldn't be eating it right?

I'm curious what yalls thoughts are on this

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If you can't manufacture every piece of silicone in your computer, and generate the electricity to run it yourself, then you shouldn't be posting on the internet.

That's what I think, at least.

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That's a complete red herring. Its not the work aspect of killing an animal that makes it an important act for people to do, its accepting the moral consequences, and seeing what the action really means.

Its not like if I were to go into a computer manufacturers clean room I would start vomiting everywhere and say "I'm never touching a keyboard again!"

although that would be fucking hilarious....

Edit: also, this comment/question has nothing to do with factory farming. It only has to do with whether you could handle the act of slaughter yourself. Part of what is so interesting about it is how few people in our generation have ever done it. Go back one generation and pretty much everyone has a story.

Necronic said:

Ravenpoe said:

Necronic said:

My mother was raised on a farm. poop most of my family was raised on a farm at one point or another, except my generation. One thing my mother has told me before was that if you weren't willing to butcher/slaughter the animal yourself, you shouldn't be eating it. You can't divorce your eating of a bacon cheeseburger from the act of taking a knife to the pigs throat and bleeding it dry, or an air hammer to a cows skull. My grandfather today was telling me how his mother would kill chickens by swinging them around by their necks until their heads came off. As she got too old she would have to set their heads on the ground and step on them, then pull the bodies until the head popped off. Of course all of this was while they were alive.

I am pro meat, but I think I probably couldn't man up to slaughtering an animal. Maybe its the blood, or the taking of life, but its really made me start thinking I should become a vegetarian. If I can't kill the animal myself I shouldn't be eating it right?

I'm curious what yalls thoughts are on this

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If you can't manufacture every piece of silicone in your computer, and generate the electricity to run it yourself, then you shouldn't be posting on the internet.

That's what I think, at least.

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That's a complete red herring. Its not the work aspect of killing an animal that makes it an important act for people to do, its accepting the moral consequences, and seeing what the action really means.

Its not like if I were to go into a computer manufacturers clean room I would start vomiting everywhere and say "I'm never touching a keyboard again!"

although that would be smurfing hilarious....

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You should make a YouTube short about a guy that visits a computer manufacturing factory and reacts to it as a normal person would react to a slaughter house.

That would be fucking hilarious. Too bad I don't still work in a lab that did clean room/circuitry research, I could film that in an afternoon.

I've never eaten any animal I've killed, but I wouldn't have any qualms about slaughtering anything I eat. They exist to sustain me, and I don't puke when I grab the potatoes in the backyard.

Necronic said:

Its not like if I were to go into a computer manufacturers clean room I would start vomiting everywhere and say "I'm never touching a keyboard again!"

although that would be fucking hilarious....

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All that poor silicium... Oh the memories, how they haunt me T_T

I think if I had to I could, I would rather just go to the super market and buy it but if I had to kill it to support myself or my family I would.

My Dad used to go hunting all the time and I never went but I have talked to him about going sometime and I am going to take a hunter safety class and go deer hunting sometime with him. But he said if I go I have to field dress the deer which makes me a little queasy thinking about it but I would do it, it's part of the responsibility of it... if I can take it's life I need to do all the work and prepare it to eat.

Eventually.

--Patrick

Grew up in farm country. I've seen everything slaughtered first hand.

Cows, pigs, goats, chickens. Also living in a Hispanic community, most of the time the dead animals were bled/kept near the place we were going to eat. Also, as someone who's always been very active in cooking/future in cooking, I learned alot first hand by preparing the freshly killed meats.

Necronic said:

My mother was raised on a farm. Shit most of my family was raised on a farm at one point or another, except my generation. One thing my mother has told me before was that if you weren't willing to butcher/slaughter the animal yourself, you shouldn't be eating it. You can't divorce your eating of a bacon cheeseburger from the act of taking a knife to the pigs throat and bleeding it dry, or an air hammer to a cows skull. My grandfather today was telling me how his mother would kill chickens by swinging them around by their necks until their heads came off. As she got too old she would have to set their heads on the ground and step on them, then pull the bodies until the head popped off. Of course all of this was while they were alive.

I am pro meat, but I think I probably couldn't man up to slaughtering an animal. Maybe its the blood, or the taking of life, but its really made me start thinking I should become a vegetarian. If I can't kill the animal myself I shouldn't be eating it right?

I'm curious what yalls thoughts are on this

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Two days ago, I took a catfish into my garage, laid it out on newspaper, pulled its skin off with pliers, ripped its guts out, and then cut fillets from it's side. Then I wrapped the remains up and tossed it in the trash. The head was still gasping for air when I disposed of it.

But then again, I spent plenty of time on a farm.

I could kill the animals, sure.

Cutting them up and preparing them for human consumption would be a whole different story.

Not that it wouldn't get done, though. Very few things will get between me and my love of bacon.

I've never slaughtered or butchered animals before, but I've seen it done on chickens, pigs, geese and a variety of fish. If I had to do it, I don't think I'd be squeamish about it, though naturally my lack of experience probably means I'd cut off my own hand by accident.

I think I could handle the physical act of killing. It's the gutting and the skinning I would probably need help with...

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I've never killed my food. I don't plan to anytime. If I had to, I would. It's natural. Of course I also think animal pain and suffering should be minimized as much as possible.

I've allowed fish to suffocate in a cooler on a boat, and I've dunked crawfish into boiling water... but they're not all cute and sad-looking.

I'd probably have to be absolutely starving to kill something larger.

Necronic said:

My grandfather today was telling me how his mother would kill chickens by swinging them around by their necks until their heads came off. As she got too old she would have to set their heads on the ground and step on them, then pull the bodies until the head popped off. Of course all of this was while they were alive.

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Where axes not invented yet in her time?!

Cajungal said:

I've allowed fish to suffocate in a cooler on a boat... but they're not all cute and sad-looking.

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Those poor sea kittens!

I love sea kittens! With extra tarter sauce....

-Adam

Man, I feel bad for killing a bug. Definitely couldn't kill an animal.

If I HAD to to survive, that's completely different. But otherwise, no way.

I've killed/gutted rabbits and deer that's about it so I think I could do it

I'm with Vagabond on this. I could definitely kill the thing, taking the guts out is different.

Maybe if I was wearing like, someone elses clothes.

and elbow length gloves.

...

and a hazmat suit.

Gurpel said:

I'm with Vagabond on this. I could definitely kill the thing, taking the guts out is different.

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But that's the fun part! :humph:

I would. Can't say I'd enjoy it that much, but three million years of evolution back me up. :tongue:

I could kill and dress an animal if I had to. I learned all that stuff when I was younger, but as long as I can get meat from the store, I don't see any reason to.

Animals are animals. I don't have a great deal of worry about killing them, or even using them for research.

With the exception of my dog, or any other housepet, but that's because I have an emotional attachment to him.

I'm pretty sure I could. Preparing an animal - taking skin off, guts out, all that jazz - would require someone to show me how, though, as I don't know yet.

It would have to be a matter of survival for me to kill an animal.

I'm pretty sure if the situation gets so bad i have to kill it myself, i will have absolutely 0 problem with skinning it or whatever is needed.

Ive killed and eaten the following; cows (in a group, for the Ramadhan sembilih ritual), chickens, fish, a snake and a rabbit.

I don't eat the animals I kill, but I sure do eat meat! Just not bug meat...

Bowielee said:

Animals are animals. I don't have a great deal of worry about killing them, or even using them for research.

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Humans are animals too... but for some reason y'all seem to worry about them... oh well, small animals will have to do for now...

I've only ever mercy killed animals...mainly house pets.

I can say I would kill to survive but until I'm put in that situation it's only lip service.

LittleSin said:

I can say I would kill to survive but until I'm put in that situation it's only lip service.

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No it's not... when it gets down to it every one here would do it... the problem would be in actually catching the animal...

I have shot an animal (Of the possum and rabbit variety), caught and gutted fish that I have caught on a line but I have never slaughtered a red blooded animal.
I don't think I would be terribly keen on it either, it seems like a lot of mess and work.

And I don't really have the opportunity to do so anyway as I don't know anyone who owns a farm.

And the shooting of the animals was more pest control than harvesting them for anything useful.

What colour is rabbit blood?!

blue

Just like smurf blood.

Gimme a big ass knife and an animal and I'm going to eat. I may not necessarily remember how to do it as it's been several years since I've helped butcher anything, but I'd do it messily and enjoy the meat when I was done.

I think you have to go back more than one generation to hear a lot less stories about people being involved with the meat they are eating. Processed meats have been around since WWII at least. My parents on both sides were not involved in farming and neither were my grandparents, although they might have been as kids on my moms side. My point is that this generation isn't terribly special when it comes to not killing their food. It wasn't a sudden drop off but a gradual shift in getting here.

I used to spend my summers on a friend's farm. I've slaughtered chickens for dinner. Made a bad mess of it. I really suck at plucking feathers.

I also took part in killing two stray dogs that broke into the chicken coop and killed their prize rooster. After carrying the bodies about half a mile away and burying them, then walking back to the coop, we went to bury the rooster. Just as we entered the coop the roster hopped up and shook the dust off himself. :angry:

Edrondol said:

I'd do it messily and enjoy the meat when I was done.

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And now we know what Ed's using if he ever puts up a personal ad.

If I was told that I have to kill my own animal to eat it. I sure would.

Animal killed by my hand (not on a daily basis but done it before) and eat it

Snakes - Check
Chicken - Check (kill about 5 of these on the farm via snapping its neck. I never approve of "twirling" method.)
Cow - Check (it is MESSY and smell..... only kill 1)
Various fish (catfish, tuna, bass
Turtles - check (again.. kinda icky)
Lobster - check
snails - check (they are good with the right sauce)
clams - check
shrimp - check
Rabbit - check (once.... but it was messy cause I didn't know how to do it right)

I did it with fish a couple of times without giving it a second thought. I wouldn't know how to prepare regular meat for consumption, but if someone shows me the ropes, no problem.

Necronic said:

Its not like if I were to go into a computer manufacturers clean room I would start vomiting everywhere and say "I'm never touching a keyboard again!"

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Actually, I'd bet that if someone used to a natural environment, who had never so much as been in an office building, were suddenly confronted with a clean room, with all it's pure white surfaces, harsh artificial lighting, oppressive white noise from fans, awkward clothing and other factors, they might just freak out.

That speculation aside, how many vegetarians would get grossed out at the thought of eating organic veggies if they actually had to spread the manure on the field to fertilize it? Not all of them, I'm sure, but some, and manure is just smelly, it's not common to fear thinking about your own poop, as it is to fear thinking about your own death.

I am with those who say they could do the killing but not the gutting/prep. I didn't grow up in a farm lifestyle, but my dad is a pretty active hunter and I don't have reservations about killing animals for food. But I do hate the feeling of touching raw meat... I barely have the patience to put up with cooking with meat, let alone gutting/cleaning/dressing an animal.

Semi-related story: my boyfriend's family in India (I believe it was his grandfather) figured out that raising a goat and slaughtering it would be cheaper than buying the same amount of goat meat (and they use a lot of it for cooking). So they bought the goat, and raised the goat, and then when it came time to slaughter the goat, they couldn't do it because they became attached to it and treated it like a pet. So they ended up selling it to someone else (how they had the ability to sell it to someone that would kill it and didn't have the ability to kill it themselves I don't quite understand, but that's okay), and buying goat meat from the store.

Lally said:

I am with those who say they could do the killing but not the gutting/prep. I didn't grow up in a farm lifestyle, but my dad is a pretty active hunter and I don't have reservations about killing animals for food. But I do hate the feeling of touching raw meat... I barely have the patience to put up with cooking with meat, let alone gutting/cleaning/dressing an animal.

Semi-related story: my boyfriend's family in India (I believe it was his grandfather) figured out that raising a goat and slaughtering it would be cheaper than buying the same amount of goat meat (and they use a lot of it for cooking). So they bought the goat, and raised the goat, and then when it came time to slaughter the goat, they couldn't do it because they became attached to it and treated it like a pet. So they ended up selling it to someone else (how they had the ability to sell it to someone that would kill it and didn't have the ability to kill it themselves I don't quite understand, but that's okay), and buying goat meat from the store.

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I think it is the gruesome factor and attachment. It is not pretty. I mean you get blood and guts everywhere (well.... mostly blood, but even if you do it right, when you start cleaning out the inside, a wrong cut get stuff squirt all over the place.

Denbrought said:

I've never eaten any animal I've killed, but I wouldn't have any qualms about slaughtering anything I eat. They exist to sustain me, and I don't puke when I grab the potatoes in the backyard.

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Potatoes never have a good day. :waah:

Lally said:

when it came time to slaughter the goat, they couldn't do it because they became attached to it and treated it like a pet. So they ended up selling it to someone else

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My aunt raises a small herd of cattle, but she ends up growing attached to them also. So, she has an agreement with a guy on another farm. When it comes time to slaughter the cattle, she trades cattle with him, so they're not slaughtering their own animals.

I thought it was kind of weird, too.

Lally said:

Semi-related story: my boyfriend's family in India (I believe it was his grandfather) figured out that raising a goat and slaughtering it would be cheaper than buying the same amount of goat meat (and they use a lot of it for cooking). So they bought the goat, and raised the goat, and then when it came time to slaughter the goat, they couldn't do it because they became attached to it and treated it like a pet. So they ended up selling it to someone else (how they had the ability to sell it to someone that would kill it and didn't have the ability to kill it themselves I don't quite understand, but that's okay), and buying goat meat from the store.

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We did chickens and rabbits when I was younger. Messy, generally not worth the time when one can make McDonald's wages and chicken is cheap (although cheap chicken exists on the back of factory farms, so there's an ethical tradeoff). Plucking chickens is hard, hard work, nevermind the rest of the work needed before one can use the meat. Gut it wrong and you can foul the meat too.

My mom still keeps chickens - getting nice laying hens, but sometimes the factory sexes the chicks wrong, so a rooster or two comes in a batch. Let the rooster grow up, and when he becomes a problem send him and a few of the chickens off to the butcher, and they come back just as one would get them from the store.

If I had to, I probably would, but I don't need to, and it's not worth my time. Even if society collapses and everyone has to go back to making their own food, smaller groups would form and eventually someone would emerge as the butcher and specialize to provide that service for the group. Spend your time raising and feeding the animals, and simply take several chickens in, and come back with fewer, leaving some for payment.

I'll be the one making sure everyone's bicycle and solar powered computers still work, in exchange for a few chickens a year...

-Adam

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Tinwhistler said:

Lally said:

when it came time to slaughter the goat, they couldn't do it because they became attached to it and treated it like a pet. So they ended up selling it to someone else

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My aunt raises a small herd of cattle, but she ends up growing attached to them also. So, she has an agreement with a guy on another farm. When it comes time to slaughter the cattle, she trades cattle with him, so they're not slaughtering their own animals.

I thought it was kind of weird, too.

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Hehehe.

When we had rabbits my parents didn't discourage us from growing close, but they reminded us whenever we were playing with them or calling them names that they were food animals later.

We grew up choosing some pretty macabre names for those creatures, but it wasn't traumatic when it occurred. Thinking back on it now, I think it's much more humane to provide an awesome (though short) life with a great deal of attention rather than a caged life, practically ignored before slaughter.

I have to admit when we were eating them, I was disappointed by how little meat there was (I'm pretty sure my parents were too - we didn't do it for more than a year or two). "But Mr. GetInMahBelly was so big and fluffy! Was he just all fluff?"

-Adam

I've worked at a farm before and slaughtered animals... however the way that your mother did it is absolutely horrific and I wouldn't doubt that your family is making it up just to bother you...

This reminds me of a story from culinary school.

One thing that all of my professors had in common is that they hate when food is wasted... ESPECIALLY my Meat Fab. teacher.

At his old restaurant, some of his cooks allowed several pounds of rabbit meat to go bad. So the next time he placed an order for rabbit, he bought them live and instructed them on how to slaughter the animals. Apparently they scream horribly. They never did that again.

Cajungal said:

This reminds me of a story from culinary school.

One thing that all of my professors had in common is that they hate when food is wasted... ESPECIALLY my Meat Fab. teacher.

At his old restaurant, some of his cooks allowed several pounds of rabbit meat to go bad. So the next time he placed an order for rabbit, he bought them live and instructed them on how to slaughter the animals. Apparently they scream horribly. They never did that again.

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See, when I join the culinary world, I pray for days like that to happen. I'd serve and cook covered in the blood with a gleeful smile.

Cajungal said:

This reminds me of a story from culinary school.

One thing that all of my professors had in common is that they hate when food is wasted... ESPECIALLY my Meat Fab. teacher.

At his old restaurant, some of his cooks allowed several pounds of rabbit meat to go bad. So the next time he placed an order for rabbit, he bought them live and instructed them on how to slaughter the animals. Apparently they scream horribly. They never did that again.

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He must not have instructed them on how to knock them out before bleeding them. Wouldn't be surprised if that was on purpose...



-Adam

Shegokigo said:

Cajungal said:

This reminds me of a story from culinary school.

One thing that all of my professors had in common is that they hate when food is wasted... ESPECIALLY my Meat Fab. teacher.

At his old restaurant, some of his cooks allowed several pounds of rabbit meat to go bad. So the next time he placed an order for rabbit, he bought them live and instructed them on how to slaughter the animals. Apparently they scream horribly. They never did that again.

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See, when I join the culinary world, I pray for days like that to happen. I'd serve and cook covered in the blood with a gleeful smile.

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*Pictures Shego serving a customer some rabbit while in an apron covered in smeared blood*
Shego: "I think you'll really enjoy THIS one. She was a hell of a screamer! "

stienman said:

Cajungal said:

This reminds me of a story from culinary school.

One thing that all of my professors had in common is that they hate when food is wasted... ESPECIALLY my Meat Fab. teacher.

At his old restaurant, some of his cooks allowed several pounds of rabbit meat to go bad. So the next time he placed an order for rabbit, he bought them live and instructed them on how to slaughter the animals. Apparently they scream horribly. They never did that again.

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He must not have instructed them on how to knock them out before bleeding them. Wouldn't be surprised if that was on purpose...



-Adam

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Oh, I'm SURE it was. He was a cheeky son of a bitch. I miss him.

I would slaughter and clean an animal if I had a chance and supervision, just for the experience. I don't subscribe to the 'if you can't kill it, don't eat it' mentality, though. A lot of people who 'couldn't' slaughter a pig, i would imagine it has more to do with squeamishness or pity than any deeply founded moral issue.

Similarly, if I ever get to Korea I full well plan on eating some dog if I get a chance. I love my pet dog, and I would never be able to kill and eat him, but I count it as a separate issue. If I grew up with a pig in the house, I probably would have an issue killing it, but I eat pork all the time.

Also, since I live in the province of Canada where most of it is done, I've been a bit curious as to what one has to do to go out sealing when the season comes around. If an opportunity like that ever came my way, I would snap it up in an instant. Not for any malice, or blood lust. Just for the experience.

stienman said:

Plucking chickens is hard, hard work

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http://www.cumberlandbooks.com/index.ph ... ucts_id=26

use that book and make one of these (warning for the squeamish, video shows turkey being plucked..only takes about a minute)
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Tinwhistler said:

stienman said:

Plucking chickens is hard, hard work

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http://www.cumberlandbooks.com/index.ph ... ucts_id=26

use that book and make one of these (warning for the squeamish, video shows turkey being plucked..only takes about a minute)
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNZfRcd7DD8:35vp0iz9][/youtube:35vp0iz9]

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Wow. What are those black spikey bits? I'm surprised that the thing doesn't damage the bird.

They're just rubber.

I found that video to be pretty nifty. They way they're handling the turkey seems a hell of a lot humane than the meat "factories" do. I'm all for meat and the using of it, but there's no reason to make an animal suffer before killing it.

Rob King said:

Wow. What are those black spikey bits? I'm surprised that the thing doesn't damage the bird.

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Softish rubber fingers that catch and pull out the feathers as the bird spins around.

Tinwhistler said:

Rob King said:

Wow. What are those black spikey bits? I'm surprised that the thing doesn't damage the bird.

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Softish rubber fingers that catch and pull out the feathers as the bird spins around.

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that is pretty cool. beats pulling it by hand (of course you HAVE to make sure the bird is dead before putting into that or the meat will be tainted)

Rob King said:

Also, since I live in the province of Canada where most of it is done, I've been a bit curious as to what one has to do to go out sealing when the season comes around. If an opportunity like that ever came my way, I would snap it up in an instant. Not for any malice, or blood lust. Just for the experience.

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Admit it, you just want your own hakapik:


-Adam

Its not the work that would bother me. I've done hard work, and I've done messy work. That's not a problem. Its just the pity factor. Some animals it doesn't bother me. I've cleaned fish, I've killed turtles (though I didn't clean it) cause they were eating the fish. I wouldn't have a problem with killing a chicken. But a cow, as completely stupid as they are, has a face like a damned puppy's. Most of the red blooded animals have a face I really connect with.

I think that the work and the mess is irrelevant for the sake of my mom's point. Not that isn't really really hard nasty work. But fuck if you can't handle that work you might as well take your ass back to madison avenue and get a manicure. Really the point is that you should have no moral qualms with killing the animal yourself.

There is a great interview with John Waters where he talks about the fallout he got over the chicken/sex scene in Pink Flamingos. He said (something to the effect of):

"That chicken was already going to die, and end up the plate of one of the people criticizing us now. Thanks to us it got to die in a way no other chicken ever has before, and it went out famous. Plus we ate it after the scene."

For some reason this conversation reminds me of that.

stienman said:

Rob King said:

Also, since I live in the province of Canada where most of it is done, I've been a bit curious as to what one has to do to go out sealing when the season comes around. If an opportunity like that ever came my way, I would snap it up in an instant. Not for any malice, or blood lust. Just for the experience.

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Admit it, you just want your own hakapik:

-Adam

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Is it bad that the first time I saw one, my first thought was how I would implement it into a D&D campaign?

Rob King said:

stienman said:

[quote="Rob King":u03jkvdx]Also, since I live in the province of Canada where most of it is done, I've been a bit curious as to what one has to do to go out sealing when the season comes around. If an opportunity like that ever came my way, I would snap it up in an instant. Not for any malice, or blood lust. Just for the experience.

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Admit it, you just want your own hakapik:

-Adam

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Is it bad that the first time I saw one, my first thought was how I would implement it into a D&D campaign?[/quote:u03jkvdx]


1d6, 19-20, 2x, simple melee.


...What?

I really have no problem with it as long as it is done humanely and respectfully.

So many people are so totally disconnected with the world they are living in I really have a hard time taking them seriously.

I just slaughtered a family of pancake people. Their eyes said why. And I said, "BECAUSE YOU'RE DELICIOUS!"

Cajungal said:

I just slaughtered a family of pancake people. Their eyes said why. And I said, "BECAUSE YOU'RE DELICIOUS!"

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Cajungal said:

I just slaughtered a family of pancake people. Their eyes said why. And I said, \"BECAUSE YOU'RE DELICIOUS!\"

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http://thefucksociety.com/animation/pw_donuts.swf
SFW, even if the link appears otherwise.

:bush: It's like PBS meets trans fat.

Tinwhistler said:

Cajungal said:

I just slaughtered a family of pancake people. Their eyes said why. And I said, \"BECAUSE YOU'RE DELICIOUS!\"

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http://thefucksociety.com/animation/pw_donuts.swf
SFW, even if the link appears otherwise.

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That was frightening.

Farm boy born and raised here. I've had no problems raising and being close to the animals I know are going to eventually wind up on my plate. They are food, and I get hungry.