Your ISP, if Net Neutrality disappears
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Chibibar
That is scary. I don't think that will happen mainly if ISP is going to charge to "gain" access, they will have to support it also.
Now that is a nightmare.
Now that is a nightmare.
You're making the assumption that the upper management cares about how many calls their policies generate. They don't. They only care how quickly we peons field them (I work tech support, though not for an ISP).
That doesn't mean we're all retarded.
That doesn't mean we're all retarded.[/QUOTE]
We don't all have to be, just enough for this to be profitable to the corporations.
You're making the assumption that the upper management cares about how many calls their policies generate. They don't. They only care how quickly we peons field them (I work tech support, though not for an ISP).[/QUOTE]
Well, everyone here is making assumptions. I don't doubt that they will charge a premium for certain services if they think they can get away with it, I just don't think they can make it that confusing.
You're making the assumption that the upper management cares about how many calls their policies generate. They don't. They only care how quickly we peons field them (I work tech support, though not for an ISP).[/quote]
Well, everyone here is making assumptions. I don't doubt that they will charge a premium for certain services if they think they can get away with it, I just don't think they can make it that confusing.[/QUOTE]
You don't think so?
That's from the real world.
http://www.imctv.com/
That doesn't mean we're all retarded.[/QUOTE]
heh, that's not what I was getting at. The ISP's will make money, no matter what model they use. There will be enough people to make up the difference if they switch to a pay as you go model because of contracts and such.
Television made up for the cost by introducing specialty channels that catered to whatever somebody wanted to watch at any given time, which is why it's still around. It gave people something they didn't already have.
Satellite Radio failed because everyone could get whatever music they wanted to listen to for free off the internet, without having to deal with ads or lose of quality (and because whatever specialty content only THEY could provide wasn't compelling enough to justify the fee). This is why Satellite Radio is all but dead.
You're making the assumption that the upper management cares about how many calls their policies generate. They don't. They only care how quickly we peons field them (I work tech support, though not for an ISP).[/quote]
Well, everyone here is making assumptions. I don't doubt that they will charge a premium for certain services if they think they can get away with it, I just don't think they can make it that confusing.[/QUOTE]
You don't think so?
http://www.imctv.com/images/pricing/digital-phone-bundle-pricing.jpg
That's from the real world.
http://www.imctv.com/[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's completely different. But imagine adding in to that the original chart, and it has to be added in to every tier. You're telling me they aren't going to look at that and say it's too much?
You're making the assumption that the upper management cares about how many calls their policies generate. They don't. They only care how quickly we peons field them (I work tech support, though not for an ISP).[/quote]
Well, everyone here is making assumptions. I don't doubt that they will charge a premium for certain services if they think they can get away with it, I just don't think they can make it that confusing.[/quote]
You don't think so?
http://www.imctv.com/images/pricing/digital-phone-bundle-pricing.jpg
That's from the real world.
http://www.imctv.com/[/quote]
Yeah, that's completely different. But imagine adding in to that the original chart, and it has to be added in to every tier. You're telling me they aren't going to look at that and say it's too much?[/QUOTE]
Adding confusion is how you make money. If people overpay for services they don't need and get overcharged for services they didn't initially pay for, companies make more money. Just like the Credit Card companies.
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Chibibar
I guess it would be more like BBS in the old days. You have access and what BBS are connected to.
We do that in Germany already. It's horrible.
Adding confusion is how you make money. If people overpay for services they don't need and get overcharged for services they didn't initially pay for, companies make more money. Just like the Credit Card companies.[/QUOTE]
But at some point that confusion ends up costing more in labor costs due to fielding so many complaints and questions. I just don't see this particular situation happening.
I think net neutrality has more to do with throttling high bandwidth services and trying to charge companies that make money off of the internet. I can't remember where it was at, but I read an interview with one of the ISP exec's not too long ago. He was really going off on the idea that google or amazon can make a ton of money off of using their data pipes without paying them a dime. They wanted to be able to charge these companies to do business with their ISP customers.
I don't think the ISP's really even know exactly what they want to do yet.
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Chazwozel
"Ten movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got...an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday [Tuesday]. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially.
[...] They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material."
[...] They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material."
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Koko
Holy shit, the government is capable of sending whole internets to each other.
Ex, dammit. Ex U.S. Senator.
Ex, dammit. Ex U.S. Senator.[/QUOTE]
Ex US Senator (Ted Stevens, R. - Alaska) who was the chairman of the senate committee of commerce, science, and transportation. Always good to know the guys making these laws know what they're talking about.
He resigned after a little fiasco about using public funds to remodel his house.
Ex, dammit. Ex U.S. Senator.[/quote]
Ex US Senator (Ted Stevens, R. - Alaska) who was the chairman of the senate committee of commerce, science, and transportation. Always good to know the guys making these laws know what they're talking about.
He resigned after a little fiasco about using public funds to remodel his house.[/QUOTE]
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