Because Michone is still around and she's fucking awesome.
[TV] The Walking Dead
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I don't have any problem with Carol.
And with Lori/Laurie:
And with Lori/Laurie:
I'd been hoping for her death since early on, but once it happened, I hated it and wished she wasn't dead. That episode really tore me up.
It's so much worse in the comics. SO. MUCH. WORSE.
As for Carol... she's not developed enough as a character for me to like or hate her anymore. About the only thing I can say negatively about her is she started cozying up to Axel real damn quick once Daryl was gone.
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a) the guy who plays Morgan deserves an Emmy for that. Seriously. 2) Nice symbolism with the badge shaped bloodstain on Rick's shirt when he got his wits back and closed the loop with Morgan. z) what was up with the hitchhiker bit? Commentary on how casual they've become about exclusion and death?
I enjoyed tonight's episode. I think the hitchhiker bit represents how the group has insulated itself. They only grudgingly take in new members, and certainly weren't going to risk anything while on the road. They had already met people who seemed nice at first before turning nasty. As far as they knew, that guy would have pulled a knife on Carl the instant he got in the car.
The Talking Dead episode was really good in talking about the Hitchhiker phasing. I really do agree though on that. Early in the series they would have quickly stopped and tried to render aid. Now it's just the way of the world to not even attempt to help, though they're still -good- people as they didn't kill him. I did laugh pretty hard at the backpack finale.
I wonder that too. He had metal clinking from his backpack like some mountain backpacker. How has he survived the past 10+ months?
But otherwise, yeah, great episode. All the booby traps, the gun room, Carl and Michonne. Next episode is going to have me anxious from the looks of it.
I thought it was a little odd that he was just lying there, dead... without any zombies nearby or without him having already turned. I mean, I GUESS someone could have came by and shot him dead between the time he was killed and the time he rose, but wouldn't that have taken the backpack?
The whole scene was just really odd.
I watched that scene twice and never saw a body, just pieces and smears.
That would have taken a while, unless a whole bunch of walkers got him at once... and if that's the case, where are they?
Wandered off? Also it had been a really long while from when they last saw him. Hours easily.
I think he dropped the backpack just as they were about to be on him, which probably wasn't long after the others left him considering how much he was screaming. That would be the smart thing to do, anyway.
If Dale were still alive, he would've made them stop the car. But then, he would've been left at the prison, I'm sure.
If Dale were still alive, he would've made them stop the car. But then, he would've been left at the prison, I'm sure.
Maybe a few hours, but Walkers don't walk that fast. And really, it wasn't THAT long. Everything in that episode happened within an 8 hour period, as it was past dawn when they drove by him and it wasn't close to sunset when they drove back.
I'm just saying the director kinda messed that one up. Lots of weird stuff going on that you kind of have to justify after the fact. That's bad film making. The rest of the episode was great but that last scene was all kinds of weird.
Lots of weird stuff going on that have to be justified or are wrongly analyzed? I and others felt the scene made sense without issue, also considering the fact that Rick fired off alot of shots to kill the walkers that attacked them right before hitchhiker guy got there. Meaning the deeper forrest walkers would have started converging on the point, killed the hitchhiker and left. I don't see any justification there, just clearing up a wrongly analyzed scene.
OK, but why did they leave? What drew them away? How did they get that guy without him taking any out? How did they approach him without him noticing? Why wasn't he able to get further away? Why is there so little left when human teeth would shatter before chewing through a human bone? At the VERY LEAST there should be a pile of bloody bones.
Most of this could be explained by him committing suicide by the side of the road using a handgun, but it's still something that wasn't even hinted at. It raises too many questions.
Most of this could be explained by him committing suicide by the side of the road using a handgun, but it's still something that wasn't even hinted at. It raises too many questions.
An animal ran by. Another car drove by. A loud sound from another direction. This wasn't a show about what happened to the walkers chasing the hitchhiker.
Same as question #1
Why bother taking any out if you think you're going to get away? One of the previously thought dead ones bit his ankle? Again, it wasn't about the hitchhiker in this episode, you're left to draw your own conclusions, not expect everything to be explained in detail.
See previous answer.
Again, he could have been hampered in some way.
Lori's zombie didn't have any trouble finishing most of her off, it's already been shown that it's not a problem for them.
It only raises questions because you're dwelling on an aspect of the episode that had no bearing (how he died, not that he died). If there was a purpose in showing how he died, they would have done it.
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I didn't think twice about it because it didn't seem important. He was taken out, and it was due to Rick's inaction. I think the emptiness of the scene was probably more important to the director than realism. For explanations, I could come up with some. The herds wander, and they could've dragged his corpse with them. They could've just brought it to the side of the road or out of the tight shot. For that matter, I may be misremembering, but I thought there were remains. I remember there being something black in the middle of the blood smear that looked like a hand/head/foot-less body.
I think a lot of these problems come from it being a TV show and not a comic. I need to stop expecting the same level of detail you'd get in the comic.
I may just need to rewatch that part of the episode next Sunday to see if I'm missing something obvious.
I may just need to rewatch that part of the episode next Sunday to see if I'm missing something obvious.
It's clear that whatever happened to the hitchhiker happened while the group was gone and was over by the time they got back. For all we know, he didn't even die there; he got attacked, dropped his pack so he could run faster, and is going to turn somewhere off in the woods. Maybe he died in the grass nearby and his corpse is still lying there. Maybe he cut himself like T did on a car, had to drop his backpack because of oncoming walkers, and will show up to get revenge someday. There is absolutely no way to know what went down, but it isn't like there was anything at the scene to fly in the face of reality or any established notions of the series.
I'd prefer a series where they trust us to understand "Something Bad Happened Here Because the Group Didn't Stop the Car" by what the characters found than for the show to have lingered on the scene after the car drove away so it could show us in minute detail what irrelevant thing happened to the hitchhiker.[DOUBLEPOST=1362503945][/DOUBLEPOST]
As has been established earlier in this thread, the people who didn't read the comic don't care about the comic. They are not the same thing--thank the gods.
I'd prefer a series where they trust us to understand "Something Bad Happened Here Because the Group Didn't Stop the Car" by what the characters found than for the show to have lingered on the scene after the car drove away so it could show us in minute detail what irrelevant thing happened to the hitchhiker.[DOUBLEPOST=1362503945][/DOUBLEPOST]
I think that would make it a poor show.
As has been established earlier in this thread, the people who didn't read the comic don't care about the comic. They are not the same thing--thank the gods.
I would love for that to happen, but I doubt they could do it as well as this scene... (Telltale game spoilers)
Comic is not the same medium as TV. I think they TV Directors have done an amazing job creating an alternate universe vs the comic universe. They've really blown me away with their creativity with the characters and established canon. Finding things to nitpick on non-important subject matter that they WOULD cover if it were important (someone called in to try and call the director for switching the Govenor's eye patch in a scene when it was really a mirror reflection) just doesn't sense to me.
I didn't say the show wasn't good. It's great... much better than we had any right to expect it to be. I just had a problem with a single, 30 second segment of a single episode. The rest of that episode is probably the best we've seen all season.
Except the problem you had with that 30 second segment was over analyzed and critical of the director when it was not meant to be explained. It wasn't a -fault- it was purposely left open.