[Movies] The DC Cinematic Universe - The David Zazlav Dumpster Fire.
figmentPez
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About as legit as the shot of Flash Thompson Venom from the upcoming Spider-Man movie.*
*actually a photoshop of the Robocop remake
Gal Gadot has been cast as Wonder Woman for the upcoming Superman vs. Batman film.
I don't honestly care much but thought I'd share it with you guys. She seems way too petite for the role, even if she puts on muscle. Wonder Woman should have that Amazonian look, like being taller than Superman in Darwyn Cooke's New Frontier.
I don't honestly care much but thought I'd share it with you guys. She seems way too petite for the role, even if she puts on muscle. Wonder Woman should have that Amazonian look, like being taller than Superman in Darwyn Cooke's New Frontier.
Gwendoline Christie (of Game of Thrones fame) I think would have really fit the role. She's 6'3" and has already shown her ability to be imposing.
Man of Steel is interesting. It split everyone almost completely 50/50 not only on whether it was good or not, but whether Superman should kill or not. And even though I liked it when I finally saw it, the more I think about it, the less I like it. My ideal Superman still doesn't kill nor do I think he ever should. Not to mention that the movie as a whole is dour, depressive, colour-washed, and bleak no matter what both of his father figures are telling him and us.
Honestly, you know what scene bothered me almost as much as the neck-snapping? The trucker scene. My Superman/Clark would never be such a total, petty bully. If it had ended with him turning the other cheek and walking out, then great. But the stuff with the truck was really out of character both for my ideal Superman and honestly, the Superman they were trying to portray in the movie.
Honestly, you know what scene bothered me almost as much as the neck-snapping? The trucker scene. My Superman/Clark would never be such a total, petty bully. If it had ended with him turning the other cheek and walking out, then great. But the stuff with the truck was really out of character both for my ideal Superman and honestly, the Superman they were trying to portray in the movie.
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I just recently watched Man of Steel, and not only was I surprised that I liked it, but I'm ok with the kill as well. But this comes with a mighty disclaimer. I'm ok with the kill -IF- Snyder and the writers are good enough to incorporate that into his origin and use that as a basis of why he doesn't kill. That tragedy should strengthen his moral core, and make him strive to be better.
Yeah, I can't argue with that point, at the very least. Like when he killed the three Kryptonian criminals in the comics in the late 80s, it should be something he struggles to come to terms with.
Didn't they make a whole thing about that? A plotline where Superman kills Mr. Mxyzptlk?
Yup.
--Patrick
A valid point, but I have ZERO faith that they will do that. Instead, it'll just be Supes with a "Yeah, I kill guys when I have to, no biggie..." attitude.
WONDER WOMAN!!!
I just want to know why Wonder Woman is super thin.
Because Hollywood.
The Flash is apparently going to make an appearance as well.
The problem really seems to be that they think that they have to rush up and get to Marvel's level, but the problem is that Marvel has already beaten them in that race for a while.
Honestly, they should commit to doing a similar build-up method like Marvel or, as I've read from some opinions online, starts with Justice League and go from there. The argument for that second option that some people have made is that the Justice League members are in a way more iconic (not necessarily better than Marvel's characters, but plenty of folks may know the basic Justice Leaguers while not as many may have known of the Avengers team members prior to the films) and thus you could jump into a story of them as a group faster.
Jamie Alexander (Sif from Thor)
On another note: I watch Man of Steel last weekend and I really disliked it. Everything about the movie just rubbed me the wrong way, from the rushed/forced introduction to Lois to Pa Kents everything.
The only moment that felt like Superman was at the end when he spoke with the military guy about trying to spy on him with a drone.
Most definitely a huge yes from me on that nomination.
If Gina Carano could prove she had the poise and presence (and acting chops) necessary, I agree with @sixpackshaker, she'd be perfect. The level of ass-kicking she manages to portray on screen is unreal (though expected, for obvious reasons).
Wonder Woman is a tough role, really. You need someone gorgeous, and who has the presence to overshadow everyone in the room just by walking into it, and who can be regal and commanding with dignity...but is also a brawler and a warrior and a general and hell on wheels in battle. That actually sounds really hard when you think about it.
If we're accepting race-blind casting with a little time-travel thrown in, Gina Torres from her Firefly days.
Wonder Woman is a tough role, really. You need someone gorgeous, and who has the presence to overshadow everyone in the room just by walking into it, and who can be regal and commanding with dignity...but is also a brawler and a warrior and a general and hell on wheels in battle. That actually sounds really hard when you think about it.
If we're accepting race-blind casting with a little time-travel thrown in, Gina Torres from her Firefly days.
figmentPez
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Gina Torres or Erica Cerra would both be much better choices.
If she didn't have the look of, well, a mean Russian, Olga Kurkulina's got the perfect frame, stature and body for Wonder Woman:
You know, if they'd casted someone with that kind of body, but with the face expected of Wonder Woman, Olga could've played an AWESOME villain for her to take on. Hell, she still could, I suppose. Except she's actually built like an Amazon. That was my first thought when I saw her in Kick-Ass 2.
You know, if they'd casted someone with that kind of body, but with the face expected of Wonder Woman, Olga could've played an AWESOME villain for her to take on. Hell, she still could, I suppose. Except she's actually built like an Amazon. That was my first thought when I saw her in Kick-Ass 2.
I watched Man of Steel a few days ago and I found that I enjoyed the first act of the movie with Russell Crowe as Jor-El much more than I expected and the scenes with Kevin Costner as Jonathan Kent much less.
So while the movie had a lot going for it, the major faults and plot holes really reduced my enjoyment of it.
The casting of Jonathan Kent was pretty much fine, but how it was written was terrible."maybe" he should have let a class full of children die to protect his identity? Are the writers insane?
What kind of person would Clark Kent grow up to be if this is the type of example set by his father?
And the relationship between the two is so poorly developed that his death had little to no impact for me. Of course it didn't help that the sacrifice of Jonathan Kent was utterly ridiculous.
The guy dies for his dog
With Superman RIGHT THERE.
I think the situation could have been easily managed with no loss of secrets.
What kind of person would Clark Kent grow up to be if this is the type of example set by his father?
And the relationship between the two is so poorly developed that his death had little to no impact for me. Of course it didn't help that the sacrifice of Jonathan Kent was utterly ridiculous.
The guy dies for his dog
With Superman RIGHT THERE.
I think the situation could have been easily managed with no loss of secrets.
So while the movie had a lot going for it, the major faults and plot holes really reduced my enjoyment of it.
Not to start a debate that I'm sure is tired by now, but Pa Kent's reaction of "maybe..." was perfect for me. It grounded the character a little closer to reality for me as a movie watcher...a real struggle that conflicts with his morals. Different strokes and all of that.
I think people want Superman to act like THEY want Superman to act all the time, whether he's 8 years old or he's a 22 year old struggling with figuring out how he fits in the world.
I think, much to my surprise, that Snyder and Goyer handled the idea that Superman would struggle with (and this is key) becoming Superman and being a part of the world. I can accept that people don't like that and that they want him to just be Christopher Reeves Superman from the time he was old enough to talk and be perfect and all smiles and corny jokes, but I think this is a far more interesting take. Was it handled perfectly? No. Snyder was pretty heavy fisted with it, but thats his problem with everything.
While I felt like they didn't do a great job of building up Jonathon and Clarks relationship enough I thought his dad's reactions were brilliant. Maybe it's because I'm a father now but that shit there made me tear up.
I think, much to my surprise, that Snyder and Goyer handled the idea that Superman would struggle with (and this is key) becoming Superman and being a part of the world. I can accept that people don't like that and that they want him to just be Christopher Reeves Superman from the time he was old enough to talk and be perfect and all smiles and corny jokes, but I think this is a far more interesting take. Was it handled perfectly? No. Snyder was pretty heavy fisted with it, but thats his problem with everything.
While I felt like they didn't do a great job of building up Jonathon and Clarks relationship enough I thought his dad's reactions were brilliant. Maybe it's because I'm a father now but that shit there made me tear up.
Yeah, it's been stated before, in long depth and clarity (by Nick) why this is wrong and that's not the only reason people were upset with this -version- of Superman. I disliked the movie ALOT the first watch through, disliked it even MORE the second.
I know this technically doesn't fit into Warner Bros.'s plans for a DC Movie Universe, but I thought it might be worth noting considering it is of Vertigo: Joseph Gordon-Levitt will be directing and starring in an adaptation of Sandman.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=112546
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=112546
Damn, Sandman adaptation? That sounds... difficult.
Yeah, I really can't foresee how that could possibly be made into a movie without severely butchering it, even if they only base it on Preludes and Nocturnes.
Now, if Guillermo del Toro wanted to do an HBO series based on Sandman, well... I'd be totally down for that.
I like Levitt and think he could do well in the role of Morpheus.
I just wish WB would maybe try other screenwriters that aren't David Goyer. Because his scripts are terrible most times.
I just wish WB would maybe try other screenwriters that aren't David Goyer. Because his scripts are terrible most times.
Are you claiming that the man that wrote and directed Blade Trinity is anything less than a cinema treasure?