Legend of Korra

They all but dumped the rest of the series online, so you can watch it to it's end at midnight Eastern.

That shit doesn't bode well, sounds like Nickelodeon is done with it.
I would totally love that, if the Nickelodeon on demand thing on the website wasn't a steaming pile. Always have to stop and restart it several times to finish an episode because it refuses to stream.

I wouldn't be surprised if the new time is fucking with older viewers, who actually have lives on Friday nights. Regardless, they are still contracted for another season and it's been in production.

EDIT. Also, it's an hour long episode tonight. They might be dumping the episodes because there just aren't many left and they've done... what, four 1-hour episode airings this season?
 
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Nickelodeon never liked Avatar, because they aren't interested in providing shows popular with older demographics. They want audiences they can sell tons of shitty toys to.
 
Nickelodeon never liked Avatar, because they aren't interested in providing shows popular with older demographics. They want audiences they can sell tons of shitty toys to.
To be fair, Spongebob has basically paid for all of the other animated programing on the channel... and basically keeps it going as each cheap teen show gets cancelled.
 
Yeah, but come on, you think they would do that if the network gave a shit?
They did a similar thing with the premiere episodes too. So no... I think this is entirely about them trying to push Korra as much as they can on the social media networks and not some attempt to push off the show or get rid of it.
 
So...wow. That was a hell of a finale. The show has been hitting everything out of the park since that Wan 2-parter. I think we can safely say that Korra lives up to the idea of being called a "legend" now as per the show's title. A friend of mine asked me that at the end of last season and I had to say no.

Is there any word on a third season? Because I'd love to see them explore the aftermath of this finale. Especially...

where the spirit world portals are left open, now. Does the human world explore it more? How do the spirits feel about being able to openly enter the human realm again for the first time in 10,000 years?

I'm also a little confused about the apparent destruction of Vatu. Obviously, he can't ever be totally destroyed because, as Rava said, neither her or Vatu can ever be totally destroyed.

I will say, though, that as much as I enjoy Korra, I don't think the characters are as well developed as The Last Airbender. I've actually been re-watching TLA on Netflix and I feel much more connected, concerned, and engaged by the characters, their story, and their development. I really don't see much in the way of character development among most of the Korra cast, including Korra (though she has had some). The only character to have any kind of development has been Tenzin. Feel free to discuss or disagree with that, though.
 
I couldn't get the last episode to load when I tried to watch it earlier. I'll have to try again later.

That said, they were signed up for two more seasons right after the first few episodes of Korra hit. So yeah... we SHOULD be getting another season.
 
DAMN that was a good finale. The season started out slow, but all together it was a good'n! Also-
was anyone else happy as FUCK that they didn't kill off Jinora? I was getting some straight up Yue vibes from her. And I really liked Korra and Mako's for real break-up, it felt really mature.

I do agree that Tenzin had the most development, but I felt Korra's arc was just pretty good too. Bolin, Mako, and Asami while they could be enjoyable this season didn't really really develop that much ESPECIALLY Asami.

Last note, was kinda hoping the
Varrick being evil thing
was a misdirect and it was someone else. Felt too obvious.
 
So, finale is done?

I haven't bothered watching it episode by episode due to Canadians getting fubared by Nikolodean, hope to get a high quality torrent soon.
 
Is there a place to watch the second season from the beginning? I've tried nick.com, but they only seem to have the last few episodes.
 
Caught up on the season now.

It was good, definitely a stronger season than the first, and at times veered dangerously close to my current Avatar-themed DnD character, a very spiritual waterbender. And Avatar Wan's two-parter is probably my favourite episode of EITHER series so far. Just beautiful.
 
Anyone else wondering where the hell do they go from here? They did air, AND Spirit, whats she gonna master next? Space? I'm betting space. BENNDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!
 
Very true.



So from this article book 3 will be "Change" and will deal with how the world has changed after Korra kept the spirit portals open and the aftermath of her defeat over Vaatu. Personally I'm hoping it starts off with a baby being born and his open REALLY FAST signifying the new dark avatar, but thats just me.
 

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Anyone else wondering where the hell do they go from here? They did air, AND Spirit, whats she gonna master next? Space? I'm betting space. BENNDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!
Time bending! Korra has to travel through time to reconnect to all of her past lives!
 
Time bending! Korra has to travel through time to reconnect to all of her past lives!
Not gonna lie, this was my second choice for crazy bending! Though I'd like her meeting the original team Avatar, bring in a (almost Mako rest in peace) full cast reunion too! Real time travel or Invisibles style time travel, I'm cool with either.
 
I... kinda hope they don't go that route. By severing her from her past lives, she doesn't have to learn the lesson that Aang did in The Promise: that sometimes the past lives are wrong and you need to know when they are. Without the previous lives holding her back, she can define what being the Avatar is from now.
 
I will say, though, that as much as I enjoy Korra, I don't think the characters are as well developed as The Last Airbender. I've actually been re-watching TLA on Netflix and I feel much more connected, concerned, and engaged by the characters, their story, and their development. I really don't see much in the way of character development among most of the Korra cast, including Korra (though she has had some). The only character to have any kind of development has been Tenzin. Feel free to discuss or disagree with that, though.
I completely agree.

I now feel I can retort to this now that I've done a Book 2 marathon the last few days. I was pleased enough with the first book but much less with the second book.

I find this follow-up to the TLA in general a great disservice to its fans and completely contrived from businessmen and marketing analysts who clearly can't do their jobs once again. Why limit this season to a mere 14 episodes is ... an incredibly dumb decision as this show is incredibly popular. Why not provide at least 20? 25? Why only 14? Doing so limits the amount of people watching your network and limits the quality of the work as well. Re-runs. DVD sales. Etc...

Dumb.

The characters on a whole have gotten no more than a few character development that was barely enough to scrape the surface just for the sake of advancing the main storyline. That's it, that's all.

The best part of Book 2? Watching the 2 part series of the first Avatar's life. Wow. That was the best since TLA. Far beyond the mediocrity of Book 2 and the disappointment of Book 1. Yet, it was still essential to the storyline. Never a bonus. You'll notice that not a whole lot of scenes were done for the sake of it being done. It was always part of the storyline.

Think about it.

In TLA, we got so many treats, that had almost nothing to do to advance the main storyline. Heck, in TLA we even got an episode of the flying monkey. AND it was really good! Also, need I remind anyone of the same episode having a tiny section for Iroh's scene? Did I mention, my eyes were tearing up when he sang his song?

RIP Mako.

TEAM AVATAR :

Korra : A cute tomboish poor man's Aang and Aang was a mere child. She so incredibly stubborn, headstrong and useless it actually annoys me. I hate how her Avatar state is a mere Korra 1.5 that still gets its ass kicked just as handily. Remember when Aang was like I'M LOSING MY SHIT!!!! And then everyone is like WTF!!!! His friends were like NOOOOOOOOO, you might die... WE MIGHT DIE! And the enemies were like either RUNNNNNNN or DIEEEE AVATA- AAAH! Now I get Korra white eyes that gets her ass kicked. (more to come later)

Mako : Generic surly face fire bending dude. No issues with him. All the hot chicks want him. I get it.

Bolin : The star of this show. Seriously. Sure he's way too silly at times but he's basically Saka 2.0 but with bending power. Love it. Also, wife loves his green eyes. I like how he makes me laugh. Win/Win. The MOVER movies were pretty bad though....

Asami : This series greatest tragedy. Can I mention how hot she is? Black hair, green eyes? Jay Kryponite. Er... for anime? Sooooo under-developed that it's a crime. Basically a plot piece, nothing more. Notice how she wasn't even used more than a scene in the finale. Useless.

Most of the support cast were annoying other than the blind girl's daughter.

All in all, beyond the rushed storyline and limited episodes, I think my main issue is character development (or lack thereof) is honestly due to the fact I strongly dislike Korra.

She has no concept of the qualities of heroism. She has sacrificed nothing, has taken as she pleased, has shown no maturity or growth in the majority of the episodes (beyond the last few) and constantly disrespects everyone with her entitled ways. Her recklessness and sense of self-entitlement goes beyond annoying to me. The first half of both season is pretty much this.

She is the antithesis of Aang in every way. She has no virtue beyond her powers and cares more about her own desires than the greater good and has a complete disregard for even the most basic considerations of those around her. Where Aang was a hero and someone I would be happy for Leyla to watch the show as a role model, Korra is an anti-hero and exudes the selfishness and inflated sense of entitlement commonly taught to today's young women. Which I hope to avoid with my daughter.

It's a shame the concept of main protagonist went to an oaf of a female, how I would have liked to seen Avatar Kyoshi instead.

And there's going to be a 3rd Book? FUCK.

Oh, and it's 13 episodes. Yey.

korra : 3 Books = 39 episodes
tla : 3 Books = 61 episodes

22 less episodes.... that speaks wonders. (that's like an entire season missing)
 
Isn't there going to be 4 books for Korra, each generally disconnected from the rest.
It has one more planned. If we get more, than alright. I'll watch it. I kind of want to see a new series at this point... maybe in the modern day, where benders are basically few and far between, and has to deal with the current avatar rediscovering and bringing back bending as an art form in a world that doesn't need it anymore.
 
I can agree with everything you said Jay except for

Where Aang was a hero and someone I would be happy for Leyla to watch the show as a role model, Korra is an anti-hero and exudes the selfishness and inflated sense of entitlement commonly taught to today's young women.
This is sexist and would have been better said if you had instead related it to the sense of entitlement taught to western culture's youth. Trying to apply it to just women comes off as ignorant.
 
She is the antithesis of Aang in every way. She has no virtue beyond her powers and cares more about her own desires than the greater good and has a complete disregard for even the most basic considerations of those around her. Where Aang was a hero and someone I would be happy for Leyla to watch the show as a role model, Korra is an anti-hero and exudes the selfishness and inflated sense of entitlement commonly taught to today's young women. Which I hope to avoid with my daughter.
I disagree with most of what you said...at least in parts. I don't think Korra is such a horrible, unlikable character like you describe. Self-entitled at points and cocky, I would agree, but not to the point of being selfish. She still goes above and beyond her abilities to save the people around her. You also have to realize that she's NOT AANG. Aang was, in many ways, very childish and also a pacifist like a Buddhist. That comes from the culture he was brought up in. Korra, however, is Water Nation, like Katara and especially Sokka. She's quick to react, much like Sokka. She is the antithesis to Aang in almost every way, except in her want to help people. She also has a LOT more pressure on her to prove herself as an Avatar than Aang did and feels overshadowed by her predecessor. There's a lot of depth behind the character, but - and this is the part where I agree with you - she's developed very little since her introduction. None of the characters really have, except Tenzin.

I don't think Bolin's as great a character as you say. He's been glorified comic relief, but with few of the good, redeeming qualities that Sokka had. Sokka was passionately hateful against the Fire Nation for good reason and continued to develop his fighting and tactical skills to the point that he was entirely different from the character we saw in the first episode. Bolin...really hasn't had much development, or really the chance.

And that's really the problem - one that I've just realized. TLA really only had a main cast of three (later, four) who appeared in every episode. Even Zuko, the fifth main character, didn't appear in every episode (I don't think he did, anyway; I just re-watched the series recently). So the focus was on those three that travelled together. So there was a LOT of time dedicated to character development. TLoK has a larger population of characters and focused so much more on the world and plot that there's less time focused on developing anyone.
 
I disagree with most of what you said...at least in parts. I don't think Korra is such a horrible, unlikable character like you describe. Self-entitled at points and cocky, I would agree, but not to the point of being selfish. She still goes above and beyond her abilities to save the people around her. You also have to realize that she's NOT AANG. Aang was, in many ways, very childish and also a pacifist like a Buddhist. That comes from the culture he was brought up in. Korra, however, is Water Nation, like Katara and especially Sokka. She's quick to react, much like Sokka. She is the antithesis to Aang in almost every way, except in her want to help people. She also has a LOT more pressure on her to prove herself as an Avatar than Aang did and feels overshadowed by her predecessor. There's a lot of depth behind the character, but - and this is the part where I agree with you - she's developed very little since her introduction. None of the characters really have, except Tenzin.
This. Korra is certaintly the antithesis of Aang in several ways, one of which is that while Aang tried to avoid the responsibility of being the Avatar, it is at the core of Korra's identity. This does results in some arrogance and entitlement, since if she's the Avatar and she thinks X is good or bad, she thinks that surely the other good guys agree. However, this idea also includes that the Avatar exists to help people, which we see in her actions all the time. A good example of both sides of this is when she first arrives in Republic City. She sees some thugs abusing someone and immediately jumps in to help, but in the aftermath when the police show up and want to take her in too, she doesn't understand why since she's "doing the right thing" (as far as she knows) and they're all on the same side. Taking her flaws to the extreme of saying that she doesn't care about others is way off though.
 
She also has a LOT more pressure on her to prove herself as an Avatar than Aang did and feels overshadowed by her predecessor.
Meh.

Wasn't Aang the guy who got himself stuck in an iceberg for one hundred years and came out only to realize he allowed the world (as the Avatar) to go to shit? Talk about pressure. He also needed to find all 3 masters of the elements and most of all, needed to learn fire bending from most likely impossible sources while the world was trying to kill him off. Korra started this series with 3 of the 4 elements except for air but her master was just there to train her and willing to train her but she couldn't learn it because... there's right... personal recklessness and sense of self-entitlement. Like most young women at that age, just like Aang was childish for a boy at that age taking on a great responsibility and atoned for his lacking as the series went on. Korra? She learn fuck all as she kept repeated thrown into the mud.

My point.... stands.

And my opinion remains, I described MY PERSONAL FEELING on how Korra was an inferior protagonist in every way compared to Aang but let's be douchy and click on the disagree on well written posts, shall we?

*snicker*

Ah the passive aggressiveness of this place amuses me. HOW DARE JAY HAVE AN OPINION! ON A WOMAN NO LESS! SEXIST FRENCHIE!!!

*click disagree*

Let's agree to disagree.

Korra will never be Aang and that's OK but Korra still remains a weak protagonist in this wonderful world or lore and to my personal opinion, a detriment on the series in they are wasting on. You can believe whatever the f you want to believe.
 
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