I think they'll wait to do the New Gods for when Marvel does an Inhumans movie.
[Movies] The DC Cinematic Universe - The David Zazlav Dumpster Fire.
I think Marvel is getting away with it because they don't feel like superhero movies. I haven't seen Cap 2 (dammit), but really, none of these has felt like a comic book movie for the most part. Avengers teetered on it, but they've done well making...just movies I guess. GotG is just the latest, best example of this.
figmentPez
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Lobo. Only they'll completely miss the point and it will be grim-dark pretty-boy Lobo with a sense of "humor" that is sadistic and not at all mocking of the dark age of comics.
They SHOULD do Guillermo Del Toro's Justice League Dark. It would be a perfect offbeat DC film and it's FREAKING GUILLERMO DEL TORO.
Not sure what it's status is but last word was he's writing it currently along with his other 90 projects so... (http://collider.com/justice-league-dark-guillermo-del-toro-dc-universe/)
So they'll be like the vast majority of Lobo fans/readers?
Would you want Reeves to come back as Constantine?
I... wouldn't have expected him too? Did I miss something where Del Toro said that? As far as I know this would be a fresh theatrical start.
Apparently, there's two different Aquaman scripts being developed at the same time, with the higher-ups eventually deciding which one to go with.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=121779
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=121779
Yeah, they're really dragging their feet with female superheroes.So while we're struggling and scraping to get a female superhero (ANY female superhero) movie, Aquaman is getting two script treatments.
What. The Actual. Fuck.
It's a shame, really. A few years ago, Warner Bros. bought up a spec script that was written for Wonder Woman which would have been set in the 1940s and had her beating up Nazis. They bought it, and have ignored it since...
I think they called it Captain America.
At least Agent Carter is getting a TV show. It's a start, but we should really have more.So while we're struggling and scraping to get a female superhero (ANY female superhero) movie, Aquaman is getting two script treatments.
What. The Actual. Fuck.
But the WW script existed before that movie. Had Warner Bros gone with it, they'd have beaten Captain America to the Hitler face-punch.
Lest we forget, this guy seems to have done an unusually large number of superheroine movies.
--Patrick
I've said it a million times, but they could have easily taken Gail Simone's script from the Wonder Woman animated movie and easily made it live action without requiring very many changes. That was a great animated film.
No, no. I was just curious about what you thought of Reeves. I am sure they would do a whole new line-up. I think it could be a cool flick, but I don't know if they could fit all of those characters in one film. Not enough time for backstories and such. The Spectre is a cool character - I'd like to see him in a movie.
I actually remember the Reeves movie being a decent film, but it had almost nothing to do with the comic character it was named after. So yeah, I'd rather see a fresh take.
Comics started up and evolved in a time and in a way that pretty much means that, for a long time, there weren't any great female heroes out there. male teen escapist power fantasy and all that. Still, the '60s, 70s, 80s and 90s have past by now, and frankly, the studios still seem to think "we'll turn Thor female! And Captain America black! We're breaking the mold here, people, this is new and exciting!" (I'm aware it's neither).
Frankly, if we want an actual good female hero movie, I'd prefer it if they gave someone like Whedon a check and made a whole new franchise. Because no matter what you do with either DC or Marvel's universe, it'll still be patches and hotfixes to try and make a (white) male-centered universe more "balanced". Outside of the X-Men, how many heroines out there aren't quite frankly female versions of male heroes? Be it catwoman/batman, WW/SM, and whatever - they tend to still be the slightly-weaker-or-at-least-slightly-less-important versions. And I'm aware there's been lots of improvement - She-Hulk isn't just a female Hulk, - but she was. And say what you will, say "She-Hulk" to 100 random people in the street and 99 will think it's just a female Hulk.
*shrug* I like both comic universes. But an actual new strong female lead will, imo, have to come from elsewhere. Which doesn't mean she couldn't have comics and eventually tie in to a universe.
Frankly, if we want an actual good female hero movie, I'd prefer it if they gave someone like Whedon a check and made a whole new franchise. Because no matter what you do with either DC or Marvel's universe, it'll still be patches and hotfixes to try and make a (white) male-centered universe more "balanced". Outside of the X-Men, how many heroines out there aren't quite frankly female versions of male heroes? Be it catwoman/batman, WW/SM, and whatever - they tend to still be the slightly-weaker-or-at-least-slightly-less-important versions. And I'm aware there's been lots of improvement - She-Hulk isn't just a female Hulk, - but she was. And say what you will, say "She-Hulk" to 100 random people in the street and 99 will think it's just a female Hulk.
*shrug* I like both comic universes. But an actual new strong female lead will, imo, have to come from elsewhere. Which doesn't mean she couldn't have comics and eventually tie in to a universe.
fade
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I'm telling you. SWORD would be an awesome female "hero" centered movie. Tie in the Guardians. Brand is a good, strong character who hasn't been subjected to the whole "the only way to make a female character strong is to make her an unlikable, infallible bitch (cough Olivia Benson cough)" bit.
In theory, this is a pretty good idea. But instead, we get stuff like My Super Ex-Girlfriend, which is a bit like Hollywood saying, "Give a man powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men, and he will become a force for Truth and Justice, but give that power to a woman and she'll just be a massive bitch." I haven't seen any of the new Marvel movies yet (except for Iron Man), but I think it's actually a bit sad that the strongest female "hero" character I've seen in a while is Ginormica.
--Patrick
From what I've heard, Marvel is considering doing a Black Widow movie, which is interesting, because David Hayter actually was slated to write and direct a Black Widow movie pre Iron Man 2. He even named his daughter Natascha after the character. That project was canned but he did write one of the scripts that was used for Watchmen (which I actually liked).
Marvel is definitely not afraid to have kick-ass women, though. Lady Sif, Agent Maria Hill, Agent Peggy Carter, Black Widow, Gamora, Nebula, even Freya, are all formidable and heroic characters. Hill and Carter in particular really shine on several occasions in Captain America 1 & 2 and The Avengers.
Marvel is definitely not afraid to have kick-ass women, though. Lady Sif, Agent Maria Hill, Agent Peggy Carter, Black Widow, Gamora, Nebula, even Freya, are all formidable and heroic characters. Hill and Carter in particular really shine on several occasions in Captain America 1 & 2 and The Avengers.
But she's supposed to have big hair.
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/why-dcs-serious-superman-may-give-marvel-the-big-screen-edge
And another thought, has Marvel ever painted muscles on suits?
And another thought, has Marvel ever painted muscles on suits?
The jokes were not one of the many problems with Green Lantern.
It had jokes? Huh. Could've fooled me.
Well yeah, don't you remember the one about..... uh..... and then there was the time Hal said that thing...and...uh....
Oh.... I see your point.
"No jokes."
I know after I watched Guardians of the Galaxy, my first thought was "I cannot wait to watch a dreary, joyless movie about guys in capes fighting monsters, aliens, and each other. It'll be this year's Schindler's List."
Well, the thing is, that works with Batman, to a point. Batman is a mentally tortured character. Marvel's superheroes are much better adjusted, for the most part, and so they can make jokes even when it's dark. *Especially* when it's dark - it's how they cope. That's why Phil Coulson can be bleeding out and say, "So that's what it does." That's why Peter Quill can be facing certain annihilation and crack jokes.
I don't want humourless, grim heroes. I want heroes who inspire us to do better, who don't live entirely in grey, blue, and brown filtered worlds. I want vibrant worlds where the heroes try to save civilians. (Yes, the climax of the Avengers was destructive, but Whedon specifically has a moment saying "Oh, by the way, while our heroes are fighting the aliens, the cops are evacuating people to safety.")
I don't want more of Man of Steel or Batnolan. I can't wait for more Star-Lord and Groot and Captain America.
I don't want humourless, grim heroes. I want heroes who inspire us to do better, who don't live entirely in grey, blue, and brown filtered worlds. I want vibrant worlds where the heroes try to save civilians. (Yes, the climax of the Avengers was destructive, but Whedon specifically has a moment saying "Oh, by the way, while our heroes are fighting the aliens, the cops are evacuating people to safety.")
I don't want more of Man of Steel or Batnolan. I can't wait for more Star-Lord and Groot and Captain America.
And Whedon managed to combine the "cops evacuating people" scene with "Captain America is awesome" as well as some humor. Efficient film making, there.
It does help that they've either glossed over or just not done anything with the darker Marvel plotlines, especially Tony's alcoholism, among other things.