But all the kind of Republicans I would've expected of Cruz or if Pence had been the frontrunner. As Dave said in the other thread, "really draining the swamp there." This is hardly the shake-up a grenade would be and more just a Republican in the White House.
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But usually when a president (of either party) builds his cabinet, it's more of a mix of people; some you might have heard of, others probably never unless you really follow politics. This reads more like an episode of "Celebrity Apprentice: White House Edition". It's like he didn't ask who would be the best fit, but who has even the least politically-minded American heard of, because his cabinet needs to be "the most YUGE, all-star cabinet EVER!".
I was joking in the other thread that it's like watching the Legion of Doom form in real life, but maybe that's not so far off after all.
I was joking in the other thread that it's like watching the Legion of Doom form in real life, but maybe that's not so far off after all.
Humans have been crying over losing long before trophies were invented.
That's exactly what crying is for.
Something I just realized.
People against Hilary - even Trump - kept going on about the lives she was responsible. They quoted Benghazi or referenced general Middle Eastern incidents. Some people nicknamed her Killary. So they apparently care about foreign Muslim lives.
And yet those same people want to deport all American Muslims and say hateful things about them.
People against Hilary - even Trump - kept going on about the lives she was responsible. They quoted Benghazi or referenced general Middle Eastern incidents. Some people nicknamed her Killary. So they apparently care about foreign Muslim lives.
And yet those same people want to deport all American Muslims and say hateful things about them.
They don't give a shit about Muslims.
There's a surprise. Obviously, it was all about Hilary, not Muslims. I just think it's rather ironic.
It's not really ironic, just hypocritical bullshit.
Ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife? Now that's ironic.
Yeah, hypocritical's definitely the better description to use here.
What about rain on your wedding day?
And your princess is in another castle.
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The House Republicans have voted unanimously to keep Paul Ryan as their speaker. The Democrats are delaying their leadership vote until the 30th. Keith Ellison might end up the new DNC chair.
Portland protesters rioters continue property destruction for 5th day, attack camera crews, distribute leaflets warning that snitches will get what's coming to them:
And it turns out, more than half the ones arrested thus far didn't even vote.
Rahm Emanuel vows that Chicago will always be a sanctuary city. Interesting how state's rights/local ordinances suddenly trump (no pun intended) federal law when it's for a democrat cause.
Rumor on the mill says there's going to be a whole lot of executive orders rescinded (for example, the unconstitutional illegal immigration ones) once Trump is in the office. One can only wonder what executive orders Trump will start writing. After all, he'll have the same "phone and pen" Obama did when he wasn't getting his way. Didn't I warn about this exact thing? Yes I did, back in January.
Portland protesters rioters continue property destruction for 5th day, attack camera crews, distribute leaflets warning that snitches will get what's coming to them:
And it turns out, more than half the ones arrested thus far didn't even vote.
Rahm Emanuel vows that Chicago will always be a sanctuary city. Interesting how state's rights/local ordinances suddenly trump (no pun intended) federal law when it's for a democrat cause.
Rumor on the mill says there's going to be a whole lot of executive orders rescinded (for example, the unconstitutional illegal immigration ones) once Trump is in the office. One can only wonder what executive orders Trump will start writing. After all, he'll have the same "phone and pen" Obama did when he wasn't getting his way. Didn't I warn about this exact thing? Yes I did, back in January.
This is interesting, and clearly shows some hypocrisy, but to be fair their votes would have done nothing to take electoral vote away from Trump, even if they and 100000 of their Portland friends had all voted for Hillary.
The electoral college ensures candidates don't just pander to the dense cities. It allows small states to have some skin in the game and not get steamrolled. Simply abolishing the electoral college with no backup plan to account for the side effects of that choice is a terrible idea.
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Without the electoral college, no political opinion outside of New York and California would matter.
Furthermore, until it benefitted him this election, Trump wanted to do away with the electoral college. If that doesn't give you pause, I am not sure what will.
Except instead they pander to Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin. Yeah, this system is much better.
Remember the Texas school board controlling what's in textbooks? That's pretty much the exact reason to have something like the electoral college.
It's also important because the President is supposed to serve not only the citizens, but the state's interests as well.
As I saw pointed out elsewhere, things change. Not too long back California was a Republican stronghold and Texas a Democrat stronghold. Now California is so blue that a Republican doesn't stand a chance outside of some (relatively) lightly populated counties, and a Democrat in Texas doesn't stand a chance outside of DFW/Houston/Austin/San Antonio.
Electoral college works the way it is supposed to work, since we are a Republic with representational democracy and not direct democracy. IF you want to change it, will the replacement be better? and can you get 60% of Congress and 75% of the States to ratify a new Amendment to the Constitution?
"It's always been that way" is a terrible reason to keep it.
But his post was pointing how things change?
Show me where I said that?
I pointed out changes that have occurred, and the path that would be required to put in a new system.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/trump-transition.html
So, um, the Trump transition team has essentially gone full Hunger Games. Chris Christie's out, and everyone associated with him is being purged, because Trump is letting his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, make the decisions. Christie prosecuted Kushner's father while a US Attorney in New Jersey. His transition team has not gotten in touch with the State Department or DoD and is contacting foreign heads of state without being briefed on them. Giuliani's trying to insist that this is all part of the normal process (it isn't) and foreign leaders are being routed to Trump Tower to try and get in touch with the President-Elect. Eliot Cohen, a conservative Republican and former member of the Bush State Department, had come up with a list of people that might be useful to the administration. Apparently this was considered to be an insult by the transition team, and they strongly rebuffed his efforts. As a result, he is now telling people to "stay away".
So, um, the Trump transition team has essentially gone full Hunger Games. Chris Christie's out, and everyone associated with him is being purged, because Trump is letting his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, make the decisions. Christie prosecuted Kushner's father while a US Attorney in New Jersey. His transition team has not gotten in touch with the State Department or DoD and is contacting foreign heads of state without being briefed on them. Giuliani's trying to insist that this is all part of the normal process (it isn't) and foreign leaders are being routed to Trump Tower to try and get in touch with the President-Elect. Eliot Cohen, a conservative Republican and former member of the Bush State Department, had come up with a list of people that might be useful to the administration. Apparently this was considered to be an insult by the transition team, and they strongly rebuffed his efforts. As a result, he is now telling people to "stay away".
What a fucking mess.
Where is Pence in all this? He's an evil scumbag, but he knows this shit better than Trump or anyone of Trump's associates. Is he just sitting back with a smile, watching it all fall apart, waiting for his moment to take the reins?
Where is Pence in all this? He's an evil scumbag, but he knows this shit better than Trump or anyone of Trump's associates. Is he just sitting back with a smile, watching it all fall apart, waiting for his moment to take the reins?
Apologies if someone mentioned already, but I think fully-proportional apportionment by state popular vote is a good way to assign electoral votes as opposed to our current system. It makes the EV much closer to the popular vote, which is general good for democracy, but maintains the normalization factor of the EV system that prevents political dominance of every issue by voters in NY, TX, FL, and CA.
Also, do away with electors as a concept if people aren't electing them. I get that Madison saw the electors as a control on the federal government, but in the long-term, it enshrined the ability of a group of unelected elites to reverse the will of the people. Right now, state party leadership (which is also generally unelected) select their electors, and most of them are state legislators or local politicians or party leadership cronies. If your state legislators are anything like mine, that should fucking terrify people.
Also, do away with electors as a concept if people aren't electing them. I get that Madison saw the electors as a control on the federal government, but in the long-term, it enshrined the ability of a group of unelected elites to reverse the will of the people. Right now, state party leadership (which is also generally unelected) select their electors, and most of them are state legislators or local politicians or party leadership cronies. If your state legislators are anything like mine, that should fucking terrify people.
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I'm not sure the bolded part would be true.
But at least this one has a male straight GasBandit. I mean, you win some, you lose some.