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Are you having it request the "desktop" version? I find that usually helps.
But yeah, especially the android forums... those look awful generally no matter what you do on any platform
I don't mind Lawful Evil characters that are actually played well.
Honestly, I don't mind evil characters that want to screw things up either, as long as they attempt to do it with subtlety and don't make it fucking obvious. If they are just causing outright strife between other players to their face, then they are assholes.
I once played a LE Warlock as an elderly grandmother of another party member, who was LN. I would very rarely do anything overt infront of the rest of the party... but sometimes Granny needed to walk slow and the kids didn't need to wait for her, she'd be fine. And then later, they'd find the guy who was hitting on her granddaughter with a pox on him or cursed. Nothing TOO obvious, but obvious enough that people avoided Granny and her granddaughter. The number one thing to always remember is evil people have things they love and then go have fun
The Book of Vile Darkness had some great, slow acting stuff for evil spell casters that worked well with this.
I was in a sci-fi GURPS game where the setting was an interstellar exploration ship, and my character was the ship doctor. Unknown to the rest of the crew, he was also an experimental cyberneticist (which was illegal in this setting) and was secretly replacing their organs with his inventions.
Boy, everyone was super happy when I revealed that should my character's heart stop, they would all die.
Boy, everyone was super happy when I revealed that should my character's heart stop, they would all die.
It's easy to play an evil character that doesn't screw the rest of the party. I'd been going fine as an evil cleric of slaughter, supporting my party completely in our goals of killing everything and looting the bodies. I was never gonna do them wrong.
Hell! Our last game ended when the paladin screwed over the rest of the party. He stole the airship we we were salvaging!
I once played a lawful evil sorcerer that was bound to a neutral party member through an irrefutable debt. I schemed a lot and did a lot of shit behind the party's back, but when given, his word was good. Most of the non-combat party interactions were good. Some snarky sneering. Usually it came down to me trying to get us more compensation for things or trying to talk the party out of altruism.
I don't see what having an evil alignment had to do with that. I have seen many a "good" aligned character do the same.
1.) If the DM told you that before the combat then he's an idiot for doing so.
2.) If he told you after, then you can't pin it on alignment, unless said person already read the module, and the DM still should probably not have told you that.
3.) You can be an asshole regardless of your character's alignment. Meta gaming a module is being an asshole.
4.) Some people really like the combat parts of D&D and don't find them tedious.
Once a party I was in was stranded next to a mine pit. A LE character started arguing with my LG Fighter. He made a threatening move, and my fighter reacted and rolled a 20. The crit sliced off one of his legs and I kicked his flailing body into the pit.
Most of our games in our group, when playing D&D, have an evil character. Not once has that disrupted the game--teamwork and guile are orthogonal to alignment. We don't use "evil" as shorthand for greedy/bloodthirsty/asshole. Hell, their scheming usually advances the party's interests better, by allowing the solution space to grow. The way I look at it, very few evil characters would think of themselves as evil, or caricaturesque.
Now, chaotic neutral, that's a hard alignment to use without pissing anyone off
Now, chaotic neutral, that's a hard alignment to use without pissing anyone off
Playing Fallout has taught me that evil doesn't necessarily mean stupid. Sure, it would be evil to shoot up everyone in the city of New Vegas, but that just makes life difficult for yourself later on, because all the questgivers and shopkeepers are dead.
No, what you do is you do their quests, make friends with them, and help them out until you're idolized on the Strip and in Freeside, and then you go on your killing spree.
My favorite was when I did Cass's personal quest. I took her to all her sacked caravans and investigated the issue with her, which culminated with the two of us storming the Silver Rush and killing all the Van Graffs inside. Afterwards she thanked me for helping her take revenge for her sacked caravans. I said you're welcome, then shot her in the face.
No, what you do is you do their quests, make friends with them, and help them out until you're idolized on the Strip and in Freeside, and then you go on your killing spree.
My favorite was when I did Cass's personal quest. I took her to all her sacked caravans and investigated the issue with her, which culminated with the two of us storming the Silver Rush and killing all the Van Graffs inside. Afterwards she thanked me for helping her take revenge for her sacked caravans. I said you're welcome, then shot her in the face.
In a 3.5 game I used to play in, the party's chaotic neutral druid was a jerk to everybody. Thanks to his rules lawyering and metagaming, he'd become insufferable. Then he tried to mess with another player's chaotic good fighter. This fighter had weapon specialization and improved critical. He had another feat from the fighter's supplementary guide that let him pile on attack after attack. The fighter won initiative, rolled two criticals with nearly max damage, and dropped the druid to negative HP in one round.
The druid was also the only one with healing magic.
The druid was also the only one with healing magic.
The 5e description of CN is way more tame. People just starting with 5e won't realize how it used to be played probably.Most of our games in our group, when playing D&D, have an evil character. Not once has that disrupted the game--teamwork and guile are orthogonal to alignment. We don't use "evil" as shorthand for greedy/bloodthirsty/asshole. Hell, their scheming usually advances the party's interests better, by allowing the solution space to grow. The way I look at it, very few evil characters would think of themselves as evil, or caricaturesque.
Now, chaotic neutral, that's a hard alignment to use without pissing anyone off
Playing Fallout 4 has taught me that evil doesn't exist and that every response means yes.
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How do you do that on Android? It was a browser button on iOS.Are you having it request the "desktop" version? I find that usually helps.
But yeah, especially the android forums... those look awful generally no matter what you do on any platform
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Press on the kebab button (top right in Chrome browser, you may have to scroll up on the webpage for it to appear). When the menu opens, scroll down it and press on "Request desktop site □". You may need to refresh the page yourself, and/or take the "m." off of the url as well.
Top right button that looks like three dots of you're using the standard chrome browser
I hate having to clean the house to my mother's standards. I mean, I really need to clean my house anyways, it had reached critical mass on the shoddy housekeeping, but my mother's standards are way higher than mine. Considering I have the attention span of a squirrel in a room full of tin foil, this is a horrific struggle for me. (Oh yeah, and I found out 3 days ago my parents are going to be here on Sunday for Thanksgiving. I wonder how long it will take for my parents to say something really stupidly political that is going to set my husband off. I have long learned to ignore their bullshit in the name of not fighting, but he has limits, and he didn't unfollow my family on Facebook like I did, so he's at it. )
For fucks sake, all I want to do is walk more and get in shape. But no, no, of course my body won't let me. Either the sneakers I have rub against the area around my Achilles tendon and wears down the skin...or I get shin splints or some kind of soreness on the side of my shins.
I thought you were doing Yoga?
And if you want a workout...skip, don't walk.
--Patrick