I get that, just saying in the MCU they have a few outs with why the Eternals didn't involve themselves with Thanos. It could be they considered him an Eternal rather then a Deviant because he was humanoid enough, while the Deviants shown in the trailer are highly mutated with tendrils and such, to the point they look more like monsters, or, and honestly the more likely option in my opinion, is that they just severed Thanos history as a descendent of the Eternals / Deviants and just made him an alien race from Titan that went extinct. The MCU is already starting to get a bit too much power creep into the narrative with multiverses and such, they really don't need to make it any more dramatic by connecting Thanos to the Eternals.
[Movies] MCU: Phase 5 - To Kang or Not to Kang
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I'm sure they are using the existence of Deviants as a mere starting point. They will want to set them apart from any other villain up to this point. My guess is they are some mistakes of the Eternals that were imprisoned in some sort of side dimension, only to have the prison weakened during the Snap.
Yeah, that's what I'm expecting too. It's not like your average moviegoer is going to know Thanos's comic book backstory after all. I was just being pointlessly pedantic for a bit of fun because, well I'm a comic book fan. That's kind of what we do after all
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So they made them just aliens instead of modified humans?
Disappointing, but expected, i guess.
Well, no, the Deviants where made to have random mutations that made each different, while the Eternals where all just very enhanced humans with an energy manipulation power (although that might have come later, with the retcons about Titanians being Eternal off-shots etc.).
You can see that easily with that Deviant that was just a handsome dude with super-strength that was considered a freak by regular Deviants.
Thanos having "Deviant Syndrome" is more about the Eternal's own biases then an actual thing the Celestials left in them IMO.
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Ad, of course, him being an Eternal is actually a retcon, and originally his chin was the only difference, with his whole family being that shade of purple.
Exactly this. They're working with basically similar time constraints as the comics. There's only so much you can do with a concept within a 22-page issue. Same here. I think stretching it out would be a mistake, anyway. Like the comic, these are meant to be short, inoffensive side-forays by tweaking circumstances and seeing how it plays out. Does it all work, like who joins T'Challa's Ravagers? No, but it's a fun, harmless foray into the idea.
I could see some ideas get expanded on if they're popular enough, like Captain Carter. That's basically how Spider-Gwen got her own comic series. They gave her a one-shot during the Spider-Verse event, it was similar to an issue of What If...? and she was popular enough to warrant her own spin-off series. I doubt many will feel that way about, say, T'challa's Star-Lord but there might be others.
If Marvel were smart, they'd greenlight a Captain Carter comics miniseries and fast track it to strike while the iron is hot. But they often fail at timely synergy like that.
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I saw the same thing, and all I could think was how appreciative I was that they immediately identified themselves as someone I don't need to take seriously.The first negative review I read on RT basically said "I hate how popular the MCU is in general, because I only like small indie movies, and therefore I hate this."
Welp, strap in, kids. It's about to get weird.
Looks like they're taking the One More Day story concept, tossing out Mephisto (good call), and making it kind of a Monkey's Paw wish fulfillment.
I'm in.
Looks like they're taking the One More Day story concept, tossing out Mephisto (good call), and making it kind of a Monkey's Paw wish fulfillment.
I'm in.
Right? That's a story I never thought they'd touch, but with the set up, it absolutely works. Especially since they've already established Peter being war buddies with Strange.
Will it work with the final product? Jury's out until the movie releases, but it looks pretty danged promising.
It's a nice touch having the protestors with signs that have Peter with Devil horns. They knew what they were doing.
*pant* ....ok, now that I'm done squeeing, and have time to review it 4 or 5 times, my favorite comment I saw someone else make is:
Signs point to this movie being really, really good right now.
I've had to drive this merge SO. MANY. TIMES. and everything about this statement it true. Whoever chose this location is pure evil.
Signs point to this movie being really, really good right now.
I thought Tobey was a decent Peter, Andrew (tho still too old) was a better Spiderman, Tom since they thankfully, didn't redo the origin story stuff seems to get the 'young' Peter Parker and Spiderman right. I just wish he hadn't gotten 'STARK' powerups so quick. As an old school guy, it just, to me, demeans him a bit.
Kind of along the lines of Thor. Odin "You never needed the hammer, you're the God of Thunder"
Next movie . . . need to make a new weapon.
Kind of along the lines of Thor. Odin "You never needed the hammer, you're the God of Thunder"
Next movie . . . need to make a new weapon.
Man...All of Phase 3 was about the Infinity Stones, and all of Phase 4 seems to be Multiverse shenanigans....I'm not sure how good it'll all work. The Stones left room to make whatever story you wanted to tell, and that half the McGuffins turned out to be Infinity Stones was just some extra lore and some stingers. But every story now has to tie up to extra-dimensional crossovers and so on. I don't mind the concept, I'm just a bit weary that I - and other viewers - will get burned out and confused about Thor-549613 and Hulk-331874 coming along to save Earth-31239741 from Zuul-951475.
And it'll be a god-awful mess trying to keep multiverse rules at least somewhat consistent over several movies and different directors and writers.
I mean, that teaser had me looking forward to it, but...we're still in the lead up to Dr Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, how much of this movie, and Loki, and WandaVision, etc will people need to know and remember; or how much of the big movies will have to be given over to recapping stuff people need to know? It's...well, it may work, but it may turn away people not used to so much interconnectedness and comics-style cross-over.
And it'll be a god-awful mess trying to keep multiverse rules at least somewhat consistent over several movies and different directors and writers.
I mean, that teaser had me looking forward to it, but...we're still in the lead up to Dr Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, how much of this movie, and Loki, and WandaVision, etc will people need to know and remember; or how much of the big movies will have to be given over to recapping stuff people need to know? It's...well, it may work, but it may turn away people not used to so much interconnectedness and comics-style cross-over.
Sorry, but it isn’t the Clone Saga. It is right there in the top 3 though.
I liked clone saga
But this isn't the parts that where hated, this is just erasing everyone knowledge of his identity, which it's a pretty old plot point for comics: https://www.cbr.com/superhero-secret-identities-whole-world-mindwiped/
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