Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2! (On Hiatus)

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Hailey Knight

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Grendmir votes we leave, try to expose Marian, and do NOT get stuck in the Feywild for six months.
 
Shawn

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It's looking like there are more that are greatly opposed to sticking around than those interested in staying.
 
doomdragon6

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Well so far 3/6 have voted for No, unless you count Errik's "leaning" which would make it 3-1 so far with two more to go.

The thing is, I don't feel our characters have any real reason to stay. I mean, Marian Alderbrush is, as far as we can tell, not a good person. While the company of discord could make better moral decisions half the time, I feel like we're more the type to expose corruption than help it further.

And like I said, Serin would not go willingly. Her business is with Bertrow.

Edit: Actually, I'm forgetting a lot of details for some reason, like who exactly the Lich in the mirror world is, what Marian's position of power is, who Shandria is, and who was assassinated and why. Can anyone fill me in?

I don't know why I can't remember these things, but I just realized I'm constantly unsure of -exactly- what's going on.

Like, did Marian say she arranged the assassinations for the good of her people? Were the other council members corrupt? I forgot, why was the frozen kenku there? Was he going to assassinate someone else? If so, why in Marian's chamber?

I feel like I could make better decisions if I could recall exactly why all these things are.
 
Hailey Knight

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You should listen to the recording that you have :p.

It's 3/5, actually, so it's still majority. Julie I'm pretty sure makes it 4/5, a rare moment of agreement in the Company of Discord.
 
doomdragon6

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Oh right, we're not 6 anymore.

....

:tear:

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Well, I could listen to the recordings, but everything's scattered.

Shawn, could you possibly address the questions I had?

(I've started bolding things requiring your attention. XD)
 
doomdragon6

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XP is pretty much "You guys level up when I say you do," and loot, well, we got none.
 
Gusto

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I vote LEAVE as well, officially.

Errik is no one's bitch and doesn't feel it would be in the best interest of his quest to work for criminals or corruption again.

The big reason he wanted to stay was to keep in close contact with Caeradwyn but if he's the ultimate magic, he can contact us no problem, and I can cast a ritual (ie. Sending) once a day for free if I wanna check up on him.
 
doomdragon6

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Cool. Looks like the Company of Discord still has their pride.

Let's take down this Alderbrush bitch!

But seriously, anyone have answers to my questions?
 
Shawn

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Essentially:
You guys came to Astrazalian seeking Alderbrush and found that she had been sealed in black ice. Lady Shandria, who is currently the elected leader of the city suggested that you investigate Alderbrush's situation. Possibly starting with the frozen Kenku found in her closet.

After investigating you discovered that the Kenkus had been working with Alderbrush to assassinate several members of the Astrazalian council.

You discovered from Ceradwyn that the council had been planning to meet on the eve of Astrazalian's return to the Feywild and make a sudden vote of no confidence against Lady Shandria which would strip her of leadership over the city and likely put it into the power of someone else. After speaking with her you disovered that Lady Shandria was also involved in the assinations, but seemed to have left the planning to Alderbrush (most likely to keep her hands clean).

Ceradwyn objected to Alderbrush's (a former apprentice of his) handling of the situation and encased her in black ice. The Kenku was probably just an unexpected bonus.

Alderbrush and Shandria stick to the belief that what they did was for the good of the city. Alderbrush shows a little more regret about it than Shandria, however they both firmly believe that the city would fall to Formian raids if Shandria did not continue to provide her leadership and tactics to the battlefield.

It is likely that Shandria did not know that the Kenku were the assassins that Alderbrush had found for the job. She probably suspected as much, but the black ice was a completely new thing for her. She figured that having an extra group investigating the black ice phenomenon wouldn't hurt. After you showed interest in Bertrow and the seemingly unmagical cube he was after she figured a trade was a good form of reward should a cure be found for Alderbrush's condition. To her, informing you of the specifics of the assignation plot was not necessary. You did however stumble upon the information in your investigation. She has not attempted to bribe you or keep you from leaving with the information. Your knowledge of the plot doesn't seem to make much of a difference to her at this time.

Basically you are looking at a Lawful vs Chaos situation here. Should evil be done for the greater good?
One avenue that hasn't been explored yet is what caused the council members to suddenly have a change of heart regarding Shandria enough that they would jeopordize the city by putting a new leader in charge the very night that the city is to return to the Feywild where a Formian first wave is likely already awaiting them.
 
doomdragon6

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Thanks- that helps.

So for some reason they don't seem to care that we know..

My only question then is how do we -know- the assassnations were for the greater good? Have we been told what the other council members were doing that was worth killing them for?

Or is that the no-confidence thing? Alderbrush is on the council, so she knew they were going to do a vote-- And since they feel that they need Shandria for the city to survive the Formian raids, Alderbrush alerted Shandria and arranged assassinations so that no vote could pass?

Is that correct?

If that's the case, I would vote we look more into why the council would want to vote Shandria out, instead of trying to expose them, now that I better know what's going on. Obviously we try to stay in our time limit and not switch over to the Feywild.

Anyone else agree, or..?

PS: Again, I'm confused: What exactly do we want from Alderbrush? More infortmation? Actually, now that I think about it, what exactly are we seeking the 6 who banished Acecerak for? Information, assistance..?
 
Hailey Knight

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We wanted her help for Asserak, which she is not giving us unless we "prove ourselves" by hanging in the Feywild for six months... what the whole dilemna of this last page has been :p.

What we are doing now is trying to incriminate her for the assassinations. That's what was voted upon. Even you voted for that :p.
 
doomdragon6

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Yes, but what help are we actually getting from her? Like, what can she do for us?

At that, what have the others done for us??

Bah! Am I following this story at all??

Edit: Actually, I was asking how do we -know- what they did is for the greater good? Like, was I right in asking that she was killing off the council members to keep Shandria in charge, so that they would have an effective leader for the raids?

Because if that's the case, I'm saying that we need to investigate further and see why the council wants to do this. We can possibly still gain Alderbrush's favor without having to go to the Feywild.

Our group seems to think that killing for the greater good is fine, seeing as we fucking do it all the time. (Which is why I wanted to knock everything unconscious instead back in the beginning.)

So I think we should investigate further before trying to incriminate the two.

I didn't fully understand what all had transpired when I voted. (Yay democracy!)
 
Hailey Knight

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doomdragon6 said:
Yes, but what help are we actually getting from her? Like, what can she do for us?

At that, what have the others done for us??

Bah! Am I following this story at all??
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Nope. Hey, I was able to answer a question of yours :p. This is stuff we asked her as the session was winding down, man.

As for the other stuff, no, we don't know. Our characters were pissed off about it though. We do know she made use of the Kenku, pretty shady of her, so it couldn't have been THAT good.
 
Gusto

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We don't know whether it was for the greater good or not, which bears further investigation over our last 2 days in the Prime Material. The results of our investigation will determine whether we want to have them arrested or let them get away with it for the greater good.

Keep in mind we may need her help later and we'd be on better terms if we DIDN'T detain her for murder. ;)

That leaves the decision as to which of the remaining three predecessors we visit next.

S'erikk Akara: He's apparently across the sea, and probably the closest to us right now. Most likely linked to his ancestor, Grendmir. Errik's probable choice.

Horus Lightborn: In the remote northern mountains, may be difficult to find. Most likely linked to Adia.

Dwar Steelgrand: Probably the farthest from us now, on the opposite side of Bridgeport, in the southeastern battlefields. I vote against visiting him next for many reasons, the biggest of which is that his likely successor, Kratash, is gone and <metagame> no longer wit the group. </metagame>
 
Hailey Knight

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Pfft, let her get away with murder. Typical Loreno reasoning.

It sounded to me like her reason for offing the others is that she didn't think leadership should switch hands at such a crucial time as the shift into the Feywild. I get that, but she couldn't do anything but murder the council members?

Keep in mind, one of those council people is still alive, as the Kenku in the closet didn't get to making his target. If we can find out who that is, and talk to them, we may learn more about what's happening.
 
doomdragon6

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So we're all in agreement to investigate further before trying to incriminate them?

Also, Gusto, I think Steelgrand is closest. I remember when we were deciding where to go next before, Astrazalian was 2 weeks/months/whatever south, and Steelgrand was 2.5 weeks/months/whatever southeast.

I think the island is overseas to the east. The Northern mountains are definitely the farthest away.

I guess Shawn should fill us in, but I'm pretty sure Steelgrand is closest.
 
Gusto

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Why did I think Astrazalian was west of BRidgeport?
 
Hailey Knight

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The island was closest back when we started off; don't know how it is now.

We would've had to investigate further anyway; at the moment, all we have is our word. The Kenku are unlikely to incriminate themselves to incriminate their employer, so we have our work cut out for us.

What I don't understand is, why bother killing all the dissenters? Alderbrush already has a majority easily. Maybe there is more going on here and she fears that just one voice will change the views of the whole group. Hrmm...
 
Shawn

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As far as why Alderbrush has neglected to assist you: She fears that putting all her eggs into one basket is not a wise decision unless that basket has proven that it can safely hold the eggs. As she has dealt with Acererack before she knows what he is capable of and doesn't believe that you are ready to face him.

Alderbrush believes she has options and probably access to a much more skilled team that she can arm and send to the tomb instead of you. You have claimed to have spoken to Oathbearer which she may or may not believe. The fact that you know Oathbearer's name probably grants you some favor though. But she still feels it would be a better investment if she could judge you by your actions over time. The six months of battle in the Fey Wild would be her best option since she can't accompany you outside the city.

Despite the fact that Acererack has marked you as potential victims doesn't mean he believes you are the ones most likely to defeat him.
In fact, considering that Acererack is a bad guy, it's likely he wouldn't piss off someone he honestly felt COULD defeat him. Cause that would be stupid. And an evil entity with thousands of years of knowledge isn't going to be that dumb.
But he does need to find victims that are powerful and worthy enough to power his spells.

Even now word is getting out that the things are stirring in the tomb of horrors again, and adventurers are going to start flocking to it for a wide variety of reasons. Some for fame, some for riches, some for good, and even some for evil. Most of these will likely fall along the way, but some may face Acererack themselves. But I'll give you a little bit of DM knowledge here. None of THEM are going to beat him.

Out of Character wise, you are the only hope the world has got.

I believe that Astrazalian has three days left. Or at least that's what I'm going to go by.
At dusk of the third day it's going to vanish to the Feywild, so your time is limited.
Is the plan to investigate the surviving council member that was slated for assassination?
 
doomdragon6

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Fuck, now I don't know.

We as characters do -not- want to go to the Feywild.

If we investigate, maybe we can still gain her favor.

But 6 months is a long time. And I don't like being saddled down in one place. Especially Serin. =P
 
Jay

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Maybe this may help : Will there be any loose women about in the Feywild?
 
doomdragon6

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Looks doodz, y'all need to post moar.

When I am fiendin' for D&D but can't actually play it, I need to talk about it.

*hulk smash!*
 
Gusto

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Shawnacy said:
Alderbrush believes she has options and probably access to a much more skilled team that she can arm and send to the tomb instead of you. You have claimed to have spoken to Oathbearer which she may or may not believe. The fact that you know Oathbearer's name probably grants you some favor though. But she still feels it would be a better investment if she could judge you by your actions over time. The six months of battle in the Fey Wild would be her best option since she can't accompany you outside the city.
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Did we not show her Oathbearer's Symbol and Denelian's Tome? If not, we should. That may (read: probably won't) be enough evidence for her.

In any case, we should spend our last 2.5-3 days in Astrazalian investigating Shandria's motives, and should probably talk to other council members. If she wanted to stay in power during the planar shift in order to protect the city, she may have a good reason to assume that another leader would fail.

I don't want to arrest her and claim that justice has been done, only to find that the city has been conquered by Formians and the Eladrin slaughtered when we return in 6 months.

This bears some serious thought...
 
doomdragon6

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Exactly--

Basically we need to try to gain their favor without shifting. Trying to get them arrested or whatever won't actually do us any good.

Unless there is some serious motivation for her, Serin will still not ever want to switch to the other side. But like I said, if it comes to us going over regardless, all she needs is to be detained for whatever reason and switched over anyway.
 
Gusto

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Well yeah that's just it.

The ONLY way I can see is staying in town at this point is if we feel we have no choice but to arrest the current leadership AND feel that the replacement leadership isn't capable of defending themselves.

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Also, frankly, if Aldarbrush has access to "teams more capable than us of defeating the undead threat", then let them defend the city.
 
doomdragon6

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Agreed.

Now Shawn has to set up, what? Like 4 scenarios here? =P
 
Shawn

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I apologize very much for this. It's not like me to do this so please know it's for a good reason. I'm quite stressed out over something and I absolutely can't concentrate on the game. I'm going to have to cancel today. The issue is personal but it's not lady related.

I'll see you all next week. By then I should have this issue dealt with and can actually focus on fun things like D&D.
 
doomdragon6

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Aw. :(

Now what'm I gonna do with my life!

Good luck with whatever's bothering you, Shawn.
 
doomdragon6

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*waits eagerly for Shawn to come and say everything's fine last minute!*
 
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