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doomdragon6
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It's cool, Dave- Halforums' Anniversary is way bigger than one game.
I'm not able to find this Ventserv.exe file, though. Maybe that's for an older version.
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It's cool, Dave- Halforums' Anniversary is way bigger than one game.
I'm not able to find this Ventserv.exe file, though. Maybe that's for an older version.
Edit: Irrelevant Now
doomdragon6
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Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Damnz! *tries something else*
Damnz! *tries something else*
doomdragon6
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Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
I think the problem is that since I'm behind a router, it's blocking others. Is anyone here not using a router that can host? Alternatively, does anyone know port-forwarding that can do it?
I think the problem is that since I'm behind a router, it's blocking others. Is anyone here not using a router that can host? Alternatively, does anyone know port-forwarding that can do it?
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Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
We're also on a router, unfortunately.
We're also on a router, unfortunately.
doomdragon6
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Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
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Alright, so this might be the part where you guys say, "Whoa. This guy likes D&D a little too much," if you haven't already.
ANYWAY, a night of D&D is easily worth $2.50, which is what I just paid to get our very own server for a month.
So, we have a dedicated server just for us 'til December 24th, and I'm assuming we won't even need it past this Friday. And, like I said, 3-4 hours of D&D is easily worth $2.50. So it's not like it's any biggie.
SO!
This Friday we may all connect to:
dallas.dallasxtreme.com Port 6705
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Alright, so this might be the part where you guys say, "Whoa. This guy likes D&D a little too much," if you haven't already.
ANYWAY, a night of D&D is easily worth $2.50, which is what I just paid to get our very own server for a month.
So, we have a dedicated server just for us 'til December 24th, and I'm assuming we won't even need it past this Friday. And, like I said, 3-4 hours of D&D is easily worth $2.50. So it's not like it's any biggie.
SO!
This Friday we may all connect to:
dallas.dallasxtreme.com Port 6705
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Oh, wow. Thanks Doom
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Oh, wow. Thanks Doom
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doomdragon6
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Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
I finally thought of an idea for how to attach the poison darts I found to Adia's arrows that doesn't involve frikking expensive sovereign glue. =P
Pitch glue is made from the wild (tree sap, which comes on the ever-abundant trees around us, and charcoal, which we'd get from our usual campfires anyway), and would be easily made by us, especially since we have a Ranger with us.
Not only that, pitch glue was(/is?) used to fix arrowheads to arrow shafts, so we know it's strong enough to sustain the impact.
So Serin's going to approach Adia with this idea and see what she thinks after we leave Celia Song. I'm assuming Adia should technically know this information instead of Serin, so we could easily play it off as Adia knowing how to do it. XD
But yeah, Serin's got these 30 poison needles that could more or less easily be attached to Adia's arrows and give her a different attack every now and then if she wants it. Since they're mostly useless, I've been wanting to find a use for them.
For DM's benefit: How Pitch Glue is made
- Get charcoal (which would be created when we camp anyway, as it's not all burned into white ash-- we still get the charcoal chunks of wood)
- Get tree sap (from trees! either find it dripping from all the trees we're around or cut it ourselves)
- Grind the charcoal into a fine powder (rocks, sticks, whatever)
- Melt the dried tree sap
- Mix the charcoal powder in with the sap
- Ta da! Pitch glue. It'll be a dried putty-like glob until we want to use it, in which case we just heat it up, drip/stick it onto whatever we want to glue, and that's it.
You're the DM so it's your call Shawn, but there's really no reason this wouldn't work. =P And we have a ranger, who lives off the damn wild. XD We could easily collect enough charcoal and sap in a few nights of camping.
Also, I don't know if Julie reads this thread often or not, so would you mind asking her if she'd care to try it, Daryl?
I finally thought of an idea for how to attach the poison darts I found to Adia's arrows that doesn't involve frikking expensive sovereign glue. =P
Pitch glue is made from the wild (tree sap, which comes on the ever-abundant trees around us, and charcoal, which we'd get from our usual campfires anyway), and would be easily made by us, especially since we have a Ranger with us.
Not only that, pitch glue was(/is?) used to fix arrowheads to arrow shafts, so we know it's strong enough to sustain the impact.
So Serin's going to approach Adia with this idea and see what she thinks after we leave Celia Song. I'm assuming Adia should technically know this information instead of Serin, so we could easily play it off as Adia knowing how to do it. XD
But yeah, Serin's got these 30 poison needles that could more or less easily be attached to Adia's arrows and give her a different attack every now and then if she wants it. Since they're mostly useless, I've been wanting to find a use for them.
For DM's benefit: How Pitch Glue is made
- Get charcoal (which would be created when we camp anyway, as it's not all burned into white ash-- we still get the charcoal chunks of wood)
- Get tree sap (from trees! either find it dripping from all the trees we're around or cut it ourselves)
- Grind the charcoal into a fine powder (rocks, sticks, whatever)
- Melt the dried tree sap
- Mix the charcoal powder in with the sap
- Ta da! Pitch glue. It'll be a dried putty-like glob until we want to use it, in which case we just heat it up, drip/stick it onto whatever we want to glue, and that's it.
You're the DM so it's your call Shawn, but there's really no reason this wouldn't work. =P And we have a ranger, who lives off the damn wild. XD We could easily collect enough charcoal and sap in a few nights of camping.
Also, I don't know if Julie reads this thread often or not, so would you mind asking her if she'd care to try it, Daryl?
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
There's no reason we couldn't invent gunpowder either, but no DM in his right mind would allow a group to do that.
Honestly, I could take a look at the needles, maybe do some sort of Intelligence/Arcana/Nature check, discern the makeup of the poison and use Alchemy to make poison arrows.
I swear, doom, you're such a friggin' pack rat.
There's no reason we couldn't invent gunpowder either, but no DM in his right mind would allow a group to do that.
Honestly, I could take a look at the needles, maybe do some sort of Intelligence/Arcana/Nature check, discern the makeup of the poison and use Alchemy to make poison arrows.
I swear, doom, you're such a friggin' pack rat.
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Just popping in to say this, but you could probably just buy some damn glue. It's been around forever in one fashion or another... carpenters or bookmakers would know where to find some at least. It might not be the best quality, but if Native Americans can figure it out, chances are good that somebody has something you can use.
Just popping in to say this, but you could probably just buy some damn glue. It's been around forever in one fashion or another... carpenters or bookmakers would know where to find some at least. It might not be the best quality, but if Native Americans can figure it out, chances are good that somebody has something you can use.
doomdragon6
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I enjoy being creative and using items the "Character Builder" doesn't say we can have. I like doing things that make sense, as opposed to having to pay 360 gold to create an item.
I mean, if you guys are annoyed by me trying to have fun with things like this, then just say so and I'll stop.
To use a previous example, back in the fight with the iron soldier. Gusto/Errik knew that rapid heat changes would cause instabilities in the metal of the soldier. As such, he got a bonus to damage. That was rewarding!
This is the same thing, only I'm trying to use items we've found.
I'll stop if it really bothers you guys that much.
Well, you can buy sovereign glue, which is more magical than this requires, and is still pretty expensive for us.
Which is why I said Adia would probably know it--- she's an elven RANGER that lives off the land. If Native Americans knew how to make pitch glue there's no way that an elf ranger wouldn't.Shawnacy said:
Well, that's the point, isn't it? The whole point of D&D is to go outside the box and do things a "regular" game won't let you do.Gusto said:I swear, doom, you're such a friggin' pack rat.
I enjoy being creative and using items the "Character Builder" doesn't say we can have. I like doing things that make sense, as opposed to having to pay 360 gold to create an item.
I mean, if you guys are annoyed by me trying to have fun with things like this, then just say so and I'll stop.
To use a previous example, back in the fight with the iron soldier. Gusto/Errik knew that rapid heat changes would cause instabilities in the metal of the soldier. As such, he got a bonus to damage. That was rewarding!
This is the same thing, only I'm trying to use items we've found.
I'll stop if it really bothers you guys that much.
doomdragon6
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Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Happy Turkey Killin' Day, people! See you all Friday!
Happy Turkey Killin' Day, people! See you all Friday!
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
If an Alchemist can make an oil that explodes into fire when exposed to air, he can make glue. Cabinet makers and Artisans used it all the time... it's likely there was something available at the time that will suit your needs. Remember... just because it isn't on the equipment list, doesn't necessarily mean it's not available. Just ask the DM to come up with a fair price for it... personally, I wouldn't charge more than a few silvers/coppers for it.
Well, you can buy sovereign glue, which is more magical than this requires, and is still pretty expensive for us.[/QUOTE]
If an Alchemist can make an oil that explodes into fire when exposed to air, he can make glue. Cabinet makers and Artisans used it all the time... it's likely there was something available at the time that will suit your needs. Remember... just because it isn't on the equipment list, doesn't necessarily mean it's not available. Just ask the DM to come up with a fair price for it... personally, I wouldn't charge more than a few silvers/coppers for it.
doomdragon6
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Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
It's an inexpensive way to get poison arrows! =P
Look dawg, I got 30 poison needles I need to do sum'n with. If we were a slightly more evil party, I could go around shaking needle-laden hands with important officials, but for now that's all I've got. =P
I for some reason felt like making another character, so I've got a golem-like Warforged Warden ready if something happens to Serin and she's out for the count for a while.
It's an inexpensive way to get poison arrows! =P
Look dawg, I got 30 poison needles I need to do sum'n with. If we were a slightly more evil party, I could go around shaking needle-laden hands with important officials, but for now that's all I've got. =P
I for some reason felt like making another character, so I've got a golem-like Warforged Warden ready if something happens to Serin and she's out for the count for a while.
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
So just to confirm, you guys are headed in the direction of the fighting towards the east correct? To give some more info that you have heard through hearsay the fighting is primarily between a human kingdom and nearby orc territory and has gotten quite a bit worse lately. The kingdom has asked for assistance from western kingdoms, but has of yet not successfully obtained aid.
So just to confirm, you guys are headed in the direction of the fighting towards the east correct? To give some more info that you have heard through hearsay the fighting is primarily between a human kingdom and nearby orc territory and has gotten quite a bit worse lately. The kingdom has asked for assistance from western kingdoms, but has of yet not successfully obtained aid.
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
I've decided on a couple kinds of cloth armor I wouldn't mind having, but I need like 1000g. Not to mention that I want to make my chest for my ritual which costs 200g, and I want to buy/find some alchemical recipes/mats.
Maybe it's just me but it feels like we're getting money reeeeeally slowly.
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Also, Shawn, does my tome grant the extra fire power yet? I asked you in our last session and also in this thread since then and haven't got an answer yet.
I've decided on a couple kinds of cloth armor I wouldn't mind having, but I need like 1000g. Not to mention that I want to make my chest for my ritual which costs 200g, and I want to buy/find some alchemical recipes/mats.
Maybe it's just me but it feels like we're getting money reeeeeally slowly.
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Also, Shawn, does my tome grant the extra fire power yet? I asked you in our last session and also in this thread since then and haven't got an answer yet.
doomdragon6
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Maybe Serin's theft attempt will prove fruitful and we'll all get a nice little bonus of items. I was hoping to steal one item for each person (all fairly low level to meta-game and keep things fair), but we'll see how that goes. Serin should be a master of escape by that point, so we'll see what Shawn throws at me.
Oh, and fighting Orcs sounds AWESOME. I love the "typical" enemies of D&D like that.
Oh and Gusto, you have to bold stuff, like this. XD
Gets his attention.
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Alright, the forum's acting oddly for me so I can't edit the post above to bold all of what Gusto said, AND I have to make a new post for this:
The DM's Guide has this to say about treasure gainment:
There's a lot of stuff I wouldn't mind having, but I need way way more money. Heck, I haven't even started looking at the 1000g items yet cuz they're so out of our price range.
Maybe Serin's theft attempt will prove fruitful and we'll all get a nice little bonus of items. I was hoping to steal one item for each person (all fairly low level to meta-game and keep things fair), but we'll see how that goes. Serin should be a master of escape by that point, so we'll see what Shawn throws at me.
Oh, and fighting Orcs sounds AWESOME. I love the "typical" enemies of D&D like that.
Oh and Gusto, you have to bold stuff, like this. XD
Gusto said:
Gusto said:
Gets his attention.
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Alright, the forum's acting oddly for me so I can't edit the post above to bold all of what Gusto said, AND I have to make a new post for this:
The DM's Guide has this to say about treasure gainment:
"During the course of gaining that level, expect a
group of five characters to acquire four magic items
ranging in level from one to four levels above the party
level. In addition, they should find gold and other
monetary treasure equal to the market price of two
magic items of their level. So a 6th-level party would
find four magic items, one each of levels 7 through 10,
and gold worth two 6th-level items, or 3,600 gp."
That's too many numbers at once for me to process properly, but it sounds roughly right, and besides, Shawn's a seasoned DM and I'm sure he knows what he's doing. =P
If we were able to buy everything we wanted, well, we wouldn't feel the need to advance. As it is, I feel "content" but "want more" which I guess is how it should be.
Though I do agree that alchemy and rituals is ridiculously expensive.
WHICH IS WHY I WANTED TO MAKE OUR OWN GLUE AGH GOD DAMN YOU GUSTO.
group of five characters to acquire four magic items
ranging in level from one to four levels above the party
level. In addition, they should find gold and other
monetary treasure equal to the market price of two
magic items of their level. So a 6th-level party would
find four magic items, one each of levels 7 through 10,
and gold worth two 6th-level items, or 3,600 gp."
That's too many numbers at once for me to process properly, but it sounds roughly right, and besides, Shawn's a seasoned DM and I'm sure he knows what he's doing. =P
If we were able to buy everything we wanted, well, we wouldn't feel the need to advance. As it is, I feel "content" but "want more" which I guess is how it should be.
Though I do agree that alchemy and rituals is ridiculously expensive.
WHICH IS WHY I WANTED TO MAKE OUR OWN GLUE AGH GOD DAMN YOU GUSTO.
doomdragon6
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Cuz you've totally used the ritual materials you found!
You have, what? A thousand "ritual gold"? And a free one every day? Start casting some rituals, dawg!
Cuz you've totally used the ritual materials you found!
You have, what? A thousand "ritual gold"? And a free one every day? Start casting some rituals, dawg!
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
You'd have plenty of money if you didn't keep spending it. Like I said, I have nearly 1000 gold. I do intend to spend some once I've figured out certain things I like...
Or, come up with a way to earn some extra money. Dip into some of them Loreno family skills.
You'd have plenty of money if you didn't keep spending it. Like I said, I have nearly 1000 gold. I do intend to spend some once I've figured out certain things I like...
Or, come up with a way to earn some extra money. Dip into some of them Loreno family skills
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I have 200g, and have bought only one item and one ritual. Don't talk to me about NOT spending money.
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Come to think of it, having only bought one 100g item and a ritual, that seems about on par for a level 6 character, considering what's happened in my 3.5e game.... Hmmmm.
Maybe I just feel like I'm in a drought because I got my campaign artifact waaaaay back in our 2nd session.
I have 200g, and have bought only one item and one ritual. Don't talk to me about NOT spending money.
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Come to think of it, having only bought one 100g item and a ritual, that seems about on par for a level 6 character, considering what's happened in my 3.5e game.... Hmmmm.
Maybe I just feel like I'm in a drought because I got my campaign artifact waaaaay back in our 2nd session.
doomdragon6
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I was actually thinking it'd be fun for Serin and Errik to put their skills to use to make some mula.
(Sending a PM to Gusto so Shawn can't prepare against us.) Mua hahahaha.
I was actually thinking it'd be fun for Serin and Errik to put their skills to use to make some mula.
(Sending a PM to Gusto so Shawn can't prepare against us.
) Mua hahahaha.Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Gusto: You have the tome of undeniable fire, correct?
I don't have my arcane power book right now to check the stats, but according to the compendium it has a level 5 and a level 10 version. Fireball was it's level 5 spell, and I was planning on granting you the second spell at level 10, then likely changing out the level 5 spell for a level 15 when you hit that benchmark.
I know that's not exactly how the book works, but I felt it was a fun option. If you would prefer to have both spells now we can do that. But keep in mind they will both be level 5. Also, based on past confusion I remember it causing, the book's daily power is to let you change out your level 5 daily and replace it with Fireball with a free action.
So all it does is allow you to prepare a non firespell, and switch it out should the situation arise. Remember that the rules of using magic items is that you can only use a certain number of magic item daily powers per day dependant on your level. (I think you guys are still at one per day?). Achieving milestones gives you another use of a different magic item (not the same item).
As far as money: I don't take very good notes between games so it's difficult to really keep track of what the party has earned. A week never really feels like enough time to catch up because honestly I have the worst attention span of anyone I know. And I'm sure it doesn't help matters that I'm now DMing another game every other weekend.
I'm going to start going by the parcels again. I don't know how far behind we are. I don't think the party needs any more healing potions considering I don't believe anyone has used any of the ones you guys have already gotten.
But yes. You guys should at least get 4 magic items per level, plus gold. I think I may be on par with the magic items. Gold I'm definitely behind on.
Gusto: You have the tome of undeniable fire, correct?
I don't have my arcane power book right now to check the stats, but according to the compendium it has a level 5 and a level 10 version. Fireball was it's level 5 spell, and I was planning on granting you the second spell at level 10, then likely changing out the level 5 spell for a level 15 when you hit that benchmark.
I know that's not exactly how the book works, but I felt it was a fun option. If you would prefer to have both spells now we can do that. But keep in mind they will both be level 5. Also, based on past confusion I remember it causing, the book's daily power is to let you change out your level 5 daily and replace it with Fireball with a free action.
So all it does is allow you to prepare a non firespell, and switch it out should the situation arise. Remember that the rules of using magic items is that you can only use a certain number of magic item daily powers per day dependant on your level. (I think you guys are still at one per day?). Achieving milestones gives you another use of a different magic item (not the same item).
As far as money: I don't take very good notes between games so it's difficult to really keep track of what the party has earned. A week never really feels like enough time to catch up because honestly I have the worst attention span of anyone I know. And I'm sure it doesn't help matters that I'm now DMing another game every other weekend.
I'm going to start going by the parcels again. I don't know how far behind we are. I don't think the party needs any more healing potions considering I don't believe anyone has used any of the ones you guys have already gotten.
But yes. You guys should at least get 4 magic items per level, plus gold. I think I may be on par with the magic items. Gold I'm definitely behind on.
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
The book of undeniable fire grants me a level one AND a level five daily, as written. Which means that I can switch out one of my Dailies on any given day for the fire daily of the same level inscribed in my book.
At level 5 you told me I'd have the Fireball available, but not the level one fire daily. I was wondering when that would become available, unlocking ALL of the Book of Undeniable Fire's powers.
I had planned to retrain away Flaming Sphere and taking Wizard's Fury instead, and THEN using Flaming Sphere in the book.
The book of undeniable fire grants me a level one AND a level five daily, as written. Which means that I can switch out one of my Dailies on any given day for the fire daily of the same level inscribed in my book.
At level 5 you told me I'd have the Fireball available, but not the level one fire daily. I was wondering when that would become available, unlocking ALL of the Book of Undeniable Fire's powers.
I had planned to retrain away Flaming Sphere and taking Wizard's Fury instead, and THEN using Flaming Sphere in the book.
Shawnacy's 4E D&D Game, part 2!
Gusto: If you want to have Flaming sphere that's fine. Not going to deprive you of something that's part of the item.
Bah. I hope the game goes well enough today. I've really only got an outline planned. Plus to top that off I'm apparently not going to be getting any sleep today before the game.
Gusto: If you want to have Flaming sphere that's fine. Not going to deprive you of something that's part of the item.
Bah. I hope the game goes well enough today. I've really only got an outline planned. Plus to top that off I'm apparently not going to be getting any sleep today before the game.
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