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I'm wondering if anyone is planning on doing NaNoWriMo (National Novel Writing Month) in November. My best writing is academic or screenwriting, not prose, but I got this bee in my bonnet about trying it. I don't get many opportunities to challenge myself like I used to, and I have a pretty solid idea, so I thought I'd make an idiot of myself and try it. And by "solid idea" I mean "one that might get me to 50,000 words."

Any other takers? It would be cool to have a sort of forum support group for it, which we could do in the Artist's Corner.
 
I think this might get moved to Artist's corner, oh modly mod :p.

We'll see, but I doubt it. I'm midway through one such project, with an aim to finish by the end of October. I doubt I'll feel like leaping into another, even faster-paced project immediately after.
 
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Alex B.

I've done it the past several years, but never can seem to get finished. I always start strong, then fade fast. It doesn't help that November is easily the busiest month of the year for me at work, with overtime pretty much every week. But yeah, me and my writing group usually give it a go, and we try to meet at least a couple times a week for write-ins. It's pretty fun and usually worth the effort even if you don't succeed.

This year I'll probably sort of do it. I'll probably try to churn out several short stories, rather than a novel.
 
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Heavan

Below is a rant about NaNoWriMo. If you want the gist of my potential participation, current projections put me at halfway through my current project come Novembers beginning, so I probably won't participate. Now enjoy the pointless rant if you choose to read it.

NaNoWriMo always really bothered me. I like that it encourages writing, because despite what most writers think, waiting for 'the muse to give me inspiration' and 'taking it slow to make sure I get it right' are terrible ideas that won't get them anywhere. Writing is something that doesn't happen unless you practice it almost constantly, and even after you've written something, you've only just begun the long stage of editing. There is no 'best time to write'. Forcing out a first draft of questionable quality and spending months editing it is worlds better than staring at a blank screen for months saying 'maybe tomorrow'. So in this sense, I'm glad NaNoWriMo forces people to write consistently for a month with a word goal in mind.

What I don't like about it is all of the following. On another message board, back in July, when this was brought up, more than one person said 'Wow, I didn't know about this! I'll put off starting my new idea until November and participate' or 'Yeah, NaNoWriMo is great. I've been waiting for it since the last one ended.' Basically, this whole 'month of writing' thing actually hinders a lot of people. Don't stall until November, don't just anticipate the next NaNoWriMo after one ends. Writing can, and should, be done all the time, and all NaNoWriMo does is say 'Write in November!' and since people are lazy bastards, writing in July becomes 'nah, I'll wait until November'. But, NaNoWriMo gets people who would otherwise never write one month where they write, okay. That's progress, I'll admit. It's the people who otherwise would write more but choose to wait that makes me feel kind of bad for all that potential talent that's getting thrown away.

My second problem is kind of similar to the first in that, once November ends, 99% of the comments I read about people who participated were 'Oh, right, I still have the 30000 words I managed during the last NaNoWriMo that I stopped writing come December. I should look at that again sometime'. The instant NaNoWriMo ends, most peoples drive ends with it for some reason. Didn't finish on time? It won't be finished, even though finishing it in December is just as viable. Finish it but didn't edit it? It'll never be edited. Didn't even get started? It won't be started until next years NaNoWriMo because people keep waiting for things like this.

In a perfect world, one where I wouldn't need to make rants no one else cares about, NaNoWriMo would be a website where, rather than a single preset month, people can start on any day and have X number of days to finish. January 15th to February 15th, for example, or any other two month-apart days. And there would also be further goals to finish writing it by X date if you missed the first goal, and finish editing it by X date, all so that people don't just go 'Well, that was fun. Can't wait until next year' and go back to never writing.

But yeah, no one cares. Sorry for the long post. I don't mind if people participate for fun, or even seriously because having this as an incentive finally makes then work, but writing hard one month out of the year won't help them improve, which irks me. I'm sure there are a lot of people who write all the time, but also participate in November. And that's how everyone should be.
 
I find your rant valid, but only if you're taking a single and rigid position on why and how people do and should write.
 

figmentPez

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I might give writing something a shot, though I'm not going to shoot for 50,000 words in one month. Especially since I haven't written anything but forum posts for years.

I've been told by others, some professional writers, that I have some great concepts for novels, though.
 
I might do this but change everything about it and make it be one of my random floating around movie ideas.
I'm actually using my pet movie idea (one I've tried to write a few times but it's never gelled) as my novel idea. I was thinking of expanding one of my old scripts into a novel but that seemed too much like cheating. I think it'll be a fun way to play with some characters and stories.

Plus for me it's a physical challenge as well. My illness is going to be a hurdle while I'm trying to do this and I really want to beat that fucker.
 
I did it in 2006 and finished 50,000 words two days before the end of November. It's a lofty goal and I applaud anyone able to complete it :)
 
I did it in 2006 and finished 50,000 words two days before the end of November. It's a lofty goal and I applaud anyone able to complete it :)
Congrats on winning! I'm curious, what did you do to prepare, and did you participate on their forums at all?
 
I did it in 2006 and finished 50,000 words two days before the end of November. It's a lofty goal and I applaud anyone able to complete it :)
Congrats on winning! I'm curious, what did you do to prepare, and did you participate on their forums at all?[/QUOTE]

I joined one of the regional forums which helped with just keeping each other going over the long slog from 25000 to 45000. I found having some kind of outline before the whole thing started helped immensely, just so I could hit a plot points as I went that I wanted to. It helped give a bit of structure to what is basically a marathon race.

I also ended up losing control of my characters midway through the book, and I just shrugged my shoulders and kept on right. I'm not going to win a pulitzer for my 1/3rd completed zombie survival epic, but it was good exercise for writing regardless :)
 
I'm not going to win a pulitzer for my 1/3rd completed zombie survival epic, but it was good exercise for writing regardless :)
That's how I'm looking at it. I normally don't start anything like this without an outline, but I have this feeling that I'd rather just let the characters do their thing. If it winds up utterly aimless, it's not like I have plans for publication anyway.

How are the regional forums more useful than the general forums? Do you get to know people better or something? I did join my local one but it's got over 2000 members.
 
I'm not going to win a pulitzer for my 1/3rd completed zombie survival epic, but it was good exercise for writing regardless :)
That's how I'm looking at it. I normally don't start anything like this without an outline, but I have this feeling that I'd rather just let the characters do their thing. If it winds up utterly aimless, it's not like I have plans for publication anyway.

How are the regional forums more useful than the general forums? Do you get to know people better or something? I did join my local one but it's got over 2000 members.[/QUOTE]

The regional one had maybe 50 members tops, which meant it was a pretty tight-knit group. I always felt better being able to track a select few individuals on their trials and tribulations.

And having a common bond of a region helped with off-topic discussions :)
 
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GeneralOrder24

You know, when you guys say "I might use X idea" it goes against the nature of the contest. Granted, I'm tempted to do the same, as there are alot of things I have semi-sketched out or semi-written that have alot of potential, but I think the spirit of things is that in 30 days, you go from zero to 50,000 words, no matter how crazy or ridiculous it might be.

It can be lots of fun, too. When we had the June contest I churned out the story of Halforce Five from scratch in about 4 hours or so. It wasn't great literature by any means, but I had such a great time writing it, taking what little I know about you guys and just churning it out into a goofy little superhero story. It was also amazing to see how different my writing process was on the fly versus in depth.

But those are just my two cents. I'm on the fence about whether or not to expand on something I have, or just go freestyle blowing in the wind.
 
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Heavan

You know, when you guys say "I might use X idea" it goes against the nature of the contest.
Actually, the website seems to disagree.

"Outlines and plot notes are very much encouraged, and can be started months ahead of the actual novel-writing adventure. Previously written prose, though, is punishable by death."

Anyway, I spent the night thinking about this, and I actually kind of do like the idea of a 'forum support group' through November for this thing. Sounds like fun at the very least. Plus, I looked at my writing schedule, and with some minor tinkering I probably could set myself up to start something new come November 1st. There is one problem with my potential participation, however.

I really don't like the idea of having to copy the whole thing into some box on their no-doubt unprotected website to verify word count (call me paranoid, but all my writing is done on a laptop that never connects to the internet, minimizing the potential for ideas to be stolen to zero. Even if the current draft of whatever I'm working on is worthless, in twenty years I might want to rewrite it and make something of it).

Still, I want to participate, if unofficially, and do the whole forum support group thing. Since you guys are the only ones I give a damn about pertaining to this, would anyone care if I sort of unofficially participated here on the forums? I know there will be no way I can prove I actually made 50000 words, but I'm having trouble understanding why anyone would care even if I lied.
 
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GeneralOrder24

You know, when you guys say "I might use X idea" it goes against the nature of the contest.
Actually, the website seems to disagree.

"Outlines and plot notes are very much encouraged, and can be started months ahead of the actual novel-writing adventure. Previously written prose, though, is punishable by death."[/QUOTE]

You know, I read the paragraph above that on the site and just skipped that one. Maybe I shouldn't write, as I obviously can't read.
 
You know, I read the paragraph above that on the site and just skipped that one. Maybe I shouldn't write, as I obviously can't read.
:rofl:

Yeah, Heavan beat me to it, but that's exactly why I'm going with ideas from a long-ago trashed screenplay, as there is no "pre-written prose" to worry about. Just an old idea with brand-new characters.

I really don't like the idea of having to copy the whole thing into some box on their no-doubt unprotected website to verify word count
They discuss this in the FAQ or somewhere (sorry, tired, no link). Basically you do something like convert your manuscript into gibberish with the same number of words and submit that. It's on the honor system, of course, but then again the entire thing is. There's nothing stopping someone from submitting 50,000 instances of the word "the" just to get credit for winning, but as the FAQ or whatever says, those people are really sad.

Since you guys are the only ones I give a damn about pertaining to this, would anyone care if I sort of unofficially participated here on the forums? I know there will be no way I can prove I actually made 50000 words, but I'm having trouble understanding why anyone would care even if I lied.
Yeah, see above for that last bit. I'm definitely not going to post my entire novel so y'all can check it; I'm doing this for me, not you. Personally, if we do a support group thingy, I'm happy to include people who aren't doing it officially. Especially since "officially" just means you sign up on the website.
 
I'd be interested in participating unofficially. I would like to continue writing short fiction, though, as I don't have any plans for longer material at the moment. Also, "insanity" as a tag? :rofl:
 
I did this, and finished the word count, in 2005. It's definitely a challenge, and it's pretty rewarding to be able to look at the amount of writing I managed to produce in a relatively short time period. Even if I never did get around to finishing it...I meant to, even worked on it for a couple weeks after, but just never finished.

I don't know that I have the interest or inclination to sit and write that much in the near future, though. And trying to do it without a real drive to get the work finished seems like it would be an exercise in frustration.

And just to answer the questions Zen asked earlier, I did minimal preparation beforehand, mostly limited to coming up with names for characters and places so I didn't frustrate myself by getting stuck on those after I started. And while I registered on their forums and lurked there a bit, I don't remember ever participating much at all there. It probably helped that my then-girlfriend and 3 or 4 friends were doing it too, though, so I wasn't looking for other people to commiserate with.
 
This is year six for me. I've done it since 2004 and finished every year but my first--I had one of the leads in my high school's musical and had way too much on my plate. Last year, I even managed to finish despite my laptop's hard drive crashing halfway through the month and eating my (40k words long) manuscript. This will be my third year pushing for 100k, so we'll see how I do. Honestly, I've been spending so much time on my non-Nano manuscript that I haven't even put any thought into this year's contest. Usually, I'll start playing with ideas over the summer and then outline/world build in September-October, but I'm way behind this year.
 
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Heavan

Hell, I just ditched my current project (I do that a lot) and started a new random one. I made it up yesterday at 11 PM but didn't start writing it until midnight or so September 21st. This will be my mini-practice round for November! By October 21st, I vow to be finished this.
 
Interesting to see that different people have had success with different kinds of preparation. (And manuscript destruction, OY! Awful.)

I was thinking we could have a thread in the artist section when November rolls around, but I could even set up a temporary subforum if we want more than just a thread and don't want to take over that section.
 
I'd be interested in participating unofficially. I would like to continue writing short fiction, though, as I don't have any plans for longer material at the moment.
So you'd be committing to writing 50,000 words of short fiction in November? (However many stories that ends up being.)[/QUOTE]

I'll have to set a much lower goal, I think. Probably more along the lines of 10,000 words. :-\
 

ElJuski

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I pretended to participate last year to get some delicious dick cookies. I should probably actually try and do it this year (I will more than likely cheat however)
 

Dave

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Okay so I have a question. I joined a group just to see what it's like and the names of some of the people have things like "29,010 words". I thought that we weren't supposed to start until November. And does this mean that the people I've seen did not win the challenge?
 
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Alex B.

Okay so I have a question. I joined a group just to see what it's like and the names of some of the people have things like "29,010 words". I thought that we weren't supposed to start until November. And does this mean that the people I've seen did not win the challenge?
Yeah, that's their word count from last year. Or at least what they got around to entering. You can update your word count at any time, you just plug it in. I never really bothered with it, as the site is frequently heavily bogged down in November. Everyone's word count gets reset to zero on November 1.
 
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