A tale of two gatings.

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The closer you tailgate, the more space I leave between me and the car ahead of me. If you flash your headlights at me, I'm going to flash my brake lights at you. I'm already going 10mph faster than the lane to the right at 80-90mph with only 0.7 to 1.2 second gap between me and the car ahead on a wet road. If I were to somehow let you pass me you'd save an entire 1 second on your whole trip, so chill.

Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

The hand signals you were giving were amusing and it was an enjoyable story. I appreciate the entertainment during a busy commute, but as I recall peter rabbit has two ears, not one. Perhaps in your version Farmer McGregor already caught him once and he lost an ear when he escaped?

-Adam
 
Last week I saw a guy on the highway trying to make a lane change using hand signals.
I'm sorry, but in L.A if you have your hand out the window I assume you are just flipping someone off.
 
I can see Adam smirking and shaking his head as he tells us this story... by typing it in his iPhone at 80 mph.
 
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Chazwozel

The closer you tailgate, the more space I leave between me and the car ahead of me. If you flash your headlights at me, I'm going to flash my brake lights at you. I'm already going 10mph faster than the lane to the left at 80-90mph with only 0.7 to 1.2 second gap between me and the car ahead on a wet road. If I were to somehow let you pass me you'd save an entire 1 second on your whole trip, so chill.

Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

The hand signals you were giving were amusing and it was an enjoyable story. I appreciate the entertainment during a busy commute, but as I recall peter rabbit has two ears, not one. Perhaps in your version Farmer McGregor already caught him once and he lost an ear when he escaped?

-Adam
So a guy was tailgating you in the right lane? Why didn't he just pass?
 
The closer you tailgate, the more space I leave between me and the car ahead of me. If you flash your headlights at me, I'm going to flash my brake lights at you. I'm already going 10mph faster than the lane to the left at 80-90mph with only 0.7 to 1.2 second gap between me and the car ahead on a wet road. If I were to somehow let you pass me you'd save an entire 1 second on your whole trip, so chill.

Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

The hand signals you were giving were amusing and it was an enjoyable story. I appreciate the entertainment during a busy commute, but as I recall peter rabbit has two ears, not one. Perhaps in your version Farmer McGregor already caught him once and he lost an ear when he escaped?

-Adam
So a guy was tailgating you in the right lane? Why didn't he just pass?[/QUOTE]

I drive in reverse.

-Adam
 
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Chazwozel

The closer you tailgate, the more space I leave between me and the car ahead of me. If you flash your headlights at me, I'm going to flash my brake lights at you. I'm already going 10mph faster than the lane to the left at 80-90mph with only 0.7 to 1.2 second gap between me and the car ahead on a wet road. If I were to somehow let you pass me you'd save an entire 1 second on your whole trip, so chill.

Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

The hand signals you were giving were amusing and it was an enjoyable story. I appreciate the entertainment during a busy commute, but as I recall peter rabbit has two ears, not one. Perhaps in your version Farmer McGregor already caught him once and he lost an ear when he escaped?

-Adam
So a guy was tailgating you in the right lane? Why didn't he just pass?[/QUOTE]

I drive in reverse.

-Adam[/QUOTE]

Well depending on which lane you were in, you were either being a total cock, or the guy behind you was the douchebag.
 
The closer you tailgate, the more space I leave between me and the car ahead of me. If you flash your headlights at me, I'm going to flash my brake lights at you. I'm already going 10mph faster than the lane to the left at 80-90mph with only 0.7 to 1.2 second gap between me and the car ahead on a wet road. If I were to somehow let you pass me you'd save an entire 1 second on your whole trip, so chill.

Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

The hand signals you were giving were amusing and it was an enjoyable story. I appreciate the entertainment during a busy commute, but as I recall peter rabbit has two ears, not one. Perhaps in your version Farmer McGregor already caught him once and he lost an ear when he escaped?

-Adam
So a guy was tailgating you in the right lane? Why didn't he just pass?[/quote]

I drive in reverse.

-Adam[/quote]

Well depending on which lane you were in, you were either being a total cock, or the guy behind you was the douchebag.[/quote]

I wrote that incorrectly, and have corrected it now.

We were in the far left lane on a 4 lane freeway doing 85 in a 65 zone. Even if there was space in the lane to the right, they were traveling 75 or so, and it would have been unsafe to change lanes without a large gap. As it was there was no space, and this woman was tailgating me within 4-5 feet.

I was already traveling at a high speed with a short following distance (less than 2 seconds, sometimes less than one second - which at these speeds is still quite far, but not far enough unless you absolutely trust the 5 cars in front of you, and two lanes to the side(s)).

So when they rushed up to me and started flashing their lights I let off the gas and tapped my brake lights briefly to indicate I was slowing down. My goal was to put enough space in front of me that both I and the car immediately behind me would be able to stop safely if the cars ahead suddenly stopped. Technically my foot was off the gas very briefly as I tapped the brakes only hard enough to trigger the light - the engine controller hadn't responded to the release of the gas by the time I pressed it again. At this speed, slowing down safely means keeping the gas down only a little bit less than before.

I'm driving a rather lightweight car with four wheel disc brakes, so as long as I'm paying attention when the cars ahead of me brake I should be ok, but the car behind me will have a difficult time stopping as quickly as I can, though I was concerned about the wet roads.

Fortunately I could see the several cars ahead of me, so unless the car immediately ahead of me acted alone in braking suddenly, I'd have a bit more notice than just one set of brakelights, which is why I wasn't following at an even greater distance.

Still, when I get an idiot behind me like that I try to make them pass as soon as possible - the further they are away from me, the better.

Whether I'm a douche or not, I'll let you judge. I'd rather be the douche than the smear on the pavement though.

-Adam
 
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Chazwozel

The closer you tailgate, the more space I leave between me and the car ahead of me. If you flash your headlights at me, I'm going to flash my brake lights at you. I'm already going 10mph faster than the lane to the left at 80-90mph with only 0.7 to 1.2 second gap between me and the car ahead on a wet road. If I were to somehow let you pass me you'd save an entire 1 second on your whole trip, so chill.

Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

The hand signals you were giving were amusing and it was an enjoyable story. I appreciate the entertainment during a busy commute, but as I recall peter rabbit has two ears, not one. Perhaps in your version Farmer McGregor already caught him once and he lost an ear when he escaped?

-Adam
So a guy was tailgating you in the right lane? Why didn't he just pass?[/quote]

I drive in reverse.

-Adam[/quote]

Well depending on which lane you were in, you were either being a total cock, or the guy behind you was the douchebag.[/quote]

I wrote that incorrectly, and have corrected it now.

We were in the far left lane on a 4 lane freeway doing 85 in a 65 zone. Even if there was space in the lane to the right, they were traveling 75 or so, and it would have been unsafe to change lanes without a large gap. As it was there was no space, and this woman was tailgating me within 4-5 feet.

I was already traveling at a high speed with a short following distance (less than 2 seconds, sometimes less than one second - which at these speeds is still quite far, but not far enough unless you absolutely trust the 5 cars in front of you, and two lanes to the side(s)).

So when they rushed up to me and started flashing their lights I let off the gas and tapped my brake lights briefly to indicate I was slowing down. My goal was to put enough space in front of me that both I and the car immediately behind me would be able to stop safely if the cars ahead suddenly stopped. Technically my foot was off the gas very briefly as I tapped the brakes only hard enough to trigger the light - the engine controller hadn't responded to the release of the gas by the time I pressed it again. At this speed, slowing down safely means keeping the gas down only a little bit less than before.

I'm driving a rather lightweight car with four wheel disc brakes, so as long as I'm paying attention when the cars ahead of me brake I should be ok, but the car behind me will have a difficult time stopping as quickly as I can, though I was concerned about the wet roads.

Fortunately I could see the several cars ahead of me, so unless the car immediately ahead of me acted alone in braking suddenly, I'd have a bit more notice than just one set of brakelights, which is why I wasn't following at an even greater distance.

Still, when I get an idiot behind me like that I try to make them pass as soon as possible - the further they are away from me, the better.

Whether I'm a douche or not, I'll let you judge. I'd rather be the douche than the smear on the pavement though.

-Adam[/QUOTE]


Eh, if you had cars in front of you then there was nowhere she was going to go anyway, thus the tailgater was a moron. Actually, I hate it when people pull that crap (try to tailgate and intimidate their way to the front of the left lane pack). I would have probably slowed down to 70 mph, just to piss her off. You probably got flipped the bird because you brake checked her. You did it to warn her that you're slowing down, she probably took it as you telling her to fuck off.

The worst is when they tailgate you; you let them pass by moving over to the right, and then they slow down to the speed you were originally doing in the left lane, which is exactly what would have happened had you moved out of the way despite the heavy traffic to the right.
 
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Iaculus

Was I the only one who initially read this as 'a tale of two gatlings?'
 
You did nothing wrong. You can't go any faster than the car in front of you and keeping a safe distance between you both is... well, wise.
 
I wish the douches where I lived would actually speed in the left (fast) lane. Every morning I have to pass the same douche on the right hand side. He has a phone number on his back window for his Mini Ausie pups, painted in red shoe polish. Even better, the home done window tinting is discolored and bubbling so he can't see out the back glass. I need to call him and tell him to quit being a complete asshat.
 
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rabbitgod

I hate tailgaters too. I ride a scooter so I get a lot of this. I'm going just as fast as everybody else, but they see that scooter and assume I'm going 20. They pass (dangerously) and when they're finally ahead of me they're going the same speed.

Something else that's been happening to me is people turning left in front of me while I'm turning right. I'll slow down because you can't...err shouldn't take a right turn at 45, and these douchenozzles think that's an invitation to take their left turn.

To add insult, they don't even do it quickly. They just roll through the intersection and I end up having to stop.
 
I hate tailgaters too. I ride a scooter so I get a lot of this. I'm going just as fast as everybody else, but they see that scooter and assume I'm going 20. They pass (dangerously) and when they're finally ahead of me they're going the same speed.

Something else that's been happening to me is people turning left in front of me while I'm turning right. I'll slow down because you can't...err shouldn't take a right turn at 45, and these douchenozzles think that's an invitation to take their left turn.

To add insult, they don't even do it quickly. They just roll through the intersection and I end up having to stop.
You'll also get the ones that turn right on red while you're turning left, I've had to stop in the middle of an intersection because of that before.
 
I love tailgaters. Whenever they creep up on me, I'll just drive slower and slower. I'll move to the right lane when it's safe for me, not when it's convenient for you.
 
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Pojodan

Once I was driving down the freeway in my parent's big truck, which I'd only driven a few times before, so I wasn't entirely used to it, so I was taking my time and was in the right-hand lane. Some douchenozzle comes up and rides my bumper with his highbeams on which, somehow, managed to glare in my face despite my being in a tall truck.

Well, I was going the speed limit at 55, so I slowed down to coax him into passing... he stayed there... I slowed some more, still riding my bumper.

I got down to 30 mph on the freeway in the right hand lane before he finally wised up and passed me.

No, the traffic was light, so he had lots and lots of opportunity to pass me, and I was in the far right lane the whole time.


I could list a half dozen other such stories, but will save for another time.
 
I love tailgaters. Whenever they creep up on me, I'll just drive slower and slower. I'll move to the right lane when it's safe for me, not when it's convenient for you.
I'll move over if someone is zooming up on me in the far left lane and it's safe to do so, but otherwise, yeah. And I've gotten exceptionally good at hitting the brakes repeatedly while keeping up my speed, which is a remarkably good technique to force someone to back off or change lanes.
 
The other day I was driving into town from a pickup somewhere just outside the city. The traffic was light, but I ended up getting stuck behind a truck doing 90, where the limit is 100. Fair enough. There's room to pass him anyways. I make sure it's safe and swing out to the left, and creep my speed up ...

The truck, which is to my right, gradually slides back in relation to me as my speed climbs. But then he stops sliding back. He stays right where he is. My front bumper is about halfway up the length of his truck, and I am not getting any farther ahead. I hit 100, and he's still there. 105. 110. 115. Finally, when the asshole is still matching me at 120, I back off and slide into the lane behind him again. After all, if he's going to go 120, then I don't need to pass him anymore, yeah?

No. I pull back in, and I get brake lights. Soon enough we're back to 90 again.

If I didn't remember that the Salvation Army logo was displayed prominently on every side of the van, I'd have blared on the horn, turned on my high beams, given him the finger, and yelled at the top of my lungs.

Not that it would have done anything anyways.
 
The truck, which is to my right, gradually slides back in relation to me as my speed climbs. But then he stops sliding back. He stays right where he is. My front bumper is about halfway up the length of his truck, and I am not getting any farther ahead. I hit 100, and he's still there. 105. 110. 115. Finally, when the asshole is still matching me at 120, I back off and slide into the lane behind him again. After all, if he's going to go 120, then I don't need to pass him anymore, yeah?
Oh, I hate when people do that. If that happens once, the next time I try to pass I go ahead and hit my high speed as quickly as possible, which usually works.

The reality is that he may not have fully been realizing what he was doing - it appears to be natural on the road to match the speed of the vehicle in front of you (we are pack creatures, after all) so if it takes more than a few seconds to pass, you have a chance of becoming the 'leader'.

-Adam
 
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Pojodan

The truck, which is to my right, gradually slides back in relation to me as my speed climbs. But then he stops sliding back. He stays right where he is. My front bumper is about halfway up the length of his truck, and I am not getting any farther ahead. I hit 100, and he's still there. 105. 110. 115. Finally, when the asshole is still matching me at 120, I back off and slide into the lane behind him again. After all, if he's going to go 120, then I don't need to pass him anymore, yeah?
Oh, I hate when people do that. If that happens once, the next time I try to pass I go ahead and hit my high speed as quickly as possible, which usually works.[/QUOTE]

Similar thing happened to me about a year ago.

Going down the freeway, left lane, 65mph speed limit, traffic is semi-heavy, but moving along okay.

Get behind a car going about 60 in the left lane with nothing ahead of him. I stick with this, but he slows to around 55, despite lots of space, going just slightly faster than the middle lane, which is fairly crowded.

I want to get around this guy and hope he'll move over once space appears in the middle lane.

Nope, once space appears he speeds up to 65... and then slows back down to 55 when the space goes away.

This happens a couple times, so the next time there's space, I move over and try to pass him... fucker speeds up to at least 70, so I move back behind him... back down to 55.

I watch ahead for a chance to get past and see a space where I can slide over to the right hand lane and slide around.

As soon as I get the chance I floor it, changes lands over and back..... and he matches me.

I finally just petal-to-metaled it and beat him out in sheer horsepower, going 90 mph to get past him, to which I immediately slowed down to about 70.

Within a mile I couldn't see him in my rear view mirror. :rolleyes:
 
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Chazwozel

I don't get why people do that match speed thing. Is it to try and keep the other person from speeding? To teach them a lesson? It just never made sense to me.
 
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