http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-alien-costume-controversy,0,4261573.story
Just wanted to see what the forum thought.
Is this costume offensive?
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Qonas
Nope. It's funny. Not laugh-out-loud funny, but grin worthy.
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Wasabi Poptart
It's punny, like the cereal killer costume that is a cereal box with a knife through it.
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Kitty Sinatra
I could see how the immigrant community could feel like it's a bit of an attack.
Also, it is kinda funny in a gruebeard way.
Also, it is kinda funny in a gruebeard way.
I laughed.
Yay for political correctness.
Is it a basic human right to not be ridiculed for breaking the law in a country which you have no citizenship in?
People get their knickers in a twist for the simplest things.
The costume itself isn't funny, though, so ... meh.
But Target is right to take it down - they also don't carry the pregnant nun costume, and many others where the primary function of the costume is to make light of any one particular group.
-Adam
Is it a basic human right to not be ridiculed for breaking the law in a country which you have no citizenship in?
People get their knickers in a twist for the simplest things.
The costume itself isn't funny, though, so ... meh.
But Target is right to take it down - they also don't carry the pregnant nun costume, and many others where the primary function of the costume is to make light of any one particular group.
-Adam
Yup. For the record, I'm the (so far only) vote for the third option. I think the idea is, overall, cute, and I really don't think it's meant to symbolize how (human) illegal immigrants are viewed. I saw it as sort of a "Men in Black" thing. But I also agree with Gruebeard.
By the way, does anyone believe this guy? "Oops we mistakenly put this Halloween costume up in our Halloween selection." Riiight.
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Well, no, and she didn't say that, but "ignorant of social stigmas and current debate on immigration reform" isn't entirely untrue.
I think my position isn't so much that Target shouldn't have sold it, but that they were stupid if they didn't think someone was going to get offended.
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Kitty Sinatra
Oh, didn't realize this was a poll. I voted with Zen.
I also see nothing wrong with Target removing a product like this after such complaints. Political Correctness is good business because there's no benefit to irritating your customers.
I also see nothing wrong with Target removing a product like this after such complaints. Political Correctness is good business because there's no benefit to irritating your customers.
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Kitty Sinatra
Well, that's why it's your viewpoint and not that of someone else with a different history 
I don't know if I have a connection to illegal immigration, but I certainly have had plenty of contact with . . . actually, I do - or pretty damn close to it, but let me say nothing about that since I don't think that's the issue . . . uh, with legal immigrants and it seems to me that's who this issue is about.
I'd imagine there's a lot of legal immigrants who get attacked (not physically, not even directly verbally) by ignorant assholes who lump them in with the "illegal crowd." And this costume would feel like just yet another such attack.
Of course, immigrants being a diverse bunch of people, even when they come from the same place or even the same family, I'm sure there are plenty who would say "yeah, whatever man; it's cool"
Huh. I think I've rather wandered meaninglessly through this thread
I don't know if I have a connection to illegal immigration, but I certainly have had plenty of contact with . . . actually, I do - or pretty damn close to it, but let me say nothing about that since I don't think that's the issue . . . uh, with legal immigrants and it seems to me that's who this issue is about.
I'd imagine there's a lot of legal immigrants who get attacked (not physically, not even directly verbally) by ignorant assholes who lump them in with the "illegal crowd." And this costume would feel like just yet another such attack.
Of course, immigrants being a diverse bunch of people, even when they come from the same place or even the same family, I'm sure there are plenty who would say "yeah, whatever man; it's cool"
Huh. I think I've rather wandered meaninglessly through this thread
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Morgoth
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-alien-costume-controversy,0,4261573.story
Just wanted to see what the forum thought.
THEY TOOK OUR JERRRRBBBSSS!!!!!!!!!!
Why go to Target when New Jersey Nick's got ya covered for Halloween?
If that were the case, it would be very telling about their attitudes.
Damn Lebanese and their intolerance toward Extra-terrestrials ... :humph:
As a member of the country who's probably responsible for the biggest chunk of the States' illegal immigrants I find the costume to be harmless, punny and... pretty boring, actually.
I understand why'd they take it down, but I don't think it's offensive at all and people are being too sensitive. People will always be too sensitive, though, so duh on Target for not thinking ahead.
I understand why'd they take it down, but I don't think it's offensive at all and people are being too sensitive. People will always be too sensitive, though, so duh on Target for not thinking ahead.
Pretty funny. As a non-resident alien, bring it on. It'll make y'all easier targets.
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-alien-costume-controversy,0,4261573.story
Just wanted to see what the forum thought.
THEY TOOK OUR JERRRRBBBSSS!!!!!!!!!!
Why go to Target when New Jersey Nick's got ya covered for Halloween?
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rabbitgod
I voted 3.
I can see each side.
I have engaged with many many immigrants, legal or otherwise.
I thought it was marginally funny. If you can't laugh at yourself you aren't living right.
I can see each side.
I have engaged with many many immigrants, legal or otherwise.
I thought it was marginally funny. If you can't laugh at yourself you aren't living right.
North_Ranger
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Dear Politically Correct...
Please remove that pine cone out of your ass.
Please remove that pine cone out of your ass.
PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!
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GeneralOrder24
Really?
I hate to be captain Doucheicus here, but are we really that concerned with offending people that shouldn't be in the damned country in the first place?
I hate to be captain Doucheicus here, but are we really that concerned with offending people that shouldn't be in the damned country in the first place?
What the FUCK YEAH! AMERICA!
It's a stupid pun, but not really offensive. I don't see how it's making light of hispanic people or any foreigners. If it were a Grey head with a mustache and a sombrero - then yeah, that would definitely be over the line. But I don't see any poncho accessories there.
The issue is not that we should go out and offend people.
The issue is that some people believe that they should force others to not offend.
Wearing and selling the costume may be offensive, but it's not illegal to do so. Why should anyone be forced to not wear it or not sell it because a bunch of PC advocates are offended?
There is no basic right to NOT be offended, even for citizens, so why is it so important to proclaim a right to not be offended if you aren't a citizen?
The whole situation is ludicrous and over the top.
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Kitty Sinatra
Because Target's business strategy involves reaching as wide a market as possible. It's easy to remove a product that's not likely to net them much money, and doing so and was apparently deemed better than risking permanently losing a handful of customers.
It's a business. They're making business choices. You'd do exactly the same thing in their position
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lafftaff
Like everyone else said, I can see how it can be offensive. I think it's the green card accessory that makes it worse. I did laugh though. You can't please everybody, somebody's always going to be upset.
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Kitty Sinatra
Her name's Tina.
You didn't even get the gender right, Calleja.
You didn't even get the gender right, Calleja.
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