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TotalFusionOne
But it's on Wednesday :\
That scene totally got to me
I'm glad their making her a 3 dimensional character and not just a cookie cutter "bad guy"
I really enjoy watching glee.
SPOILERS AHOY. I'm not tagging them because it's a thread about glee! Hello!
As far as I can tell, it's a prime time soap opera.
- No! You're the father! (but not really!)
- I'm going to fake the pregnancy to keep my marraige together!
- I got pregnant when you ejaculated in a hot tub, and both of us had swimsuits on!
- Wait! That means you're my sister! Which makes my wife my niece! (not yet, but it's obviously the next step...)
That plus the "I'm going to use this person to meet my goal, consequences be darned!" in every episode.
Also very, very snarky and cynical. Every character has a bad side. Every character has a heart of gold. Well, except Mrs. Schuster, so far, who the writers are as yet casting as an utter idiot and evil plotter. I'm sure we'll see her "disabled sister" soon enough and then everyone will be both good and bad, and the transformation into a primetime musical soap opera will be complete!
SPOILERS AHOY. I'm not tagging them because it's a thread about glee! Hello!
As far as I can tell, it's a prime time soap opera.
- No! You're the father! (but not really!)
- I'm going to fake the pregnancy to keep my marraige together!
- I got pregnant when you ejaculated in a hot tub, and both of us had swimsuits on!
- Wait! That means you're my sister! Which makes my wife my niece! (not yet, but it's obviously the next step...)
That plus the "I'm going to use this person to meet my goal, consequences be darned!" in every episode.
Also very, very snarky and cynical. Every character has a bad side. Every character has a heart of gold. Well, except Mrs. Schuster, so far, who the writers are as yet casting as an utter idiot and evil plotter. I'm sure we'll see her "disabled sister" soon enough and then everyone will be both good and bad, and the transformation into a primetime musical soap opera will be complete!
I probably wasn't clear - I did see this week's episode. I'm talking about the glee club teacher's wife - we haven't seen her "heart of gold" or "disabled sister" (ie, the thing that makes us think she might actually be more than simply a bad person for the other characters to react with).
I haven't caught up with the past episodes though, so I'm interested to see the cheerleading coach fleshed out, obviously this week was a big reveal, especially the, "You want me to treat her differently? She just wants to be treated like everyone else!"
I probably wasn't clear - I did see this week's episode. I'm talking about the glee club teacher's wife - we haven't seen her "heart of gold" or "disabled sister" (ie, the thing that makes us think she might actually be more than simply a bad person for the other characters to react with).
I haven't caught up with the past episodes though, so I'm interested to see the cheerleading coach fleshed out, obviously this week was a big reveal, especially the, "You want me to treat her differently? She just wants to be treated like everyone else!"[/QUOTE]
That was my bad, I misread. I thought you meant the cheer coach. They have shown Mrs Schuster wrestling with whether or not what she's doing is right or wrong. She has shown some remorse for lying to her husband, so I think she's pretty 3 dimensional. Her sister on the other hand is completely a bitch.
I'd argue that the only reason she fears lying to him is that it might push him away, she's afraid of being caught lying.
But who knows. I'm actually irritated that they set the show up in a way that you hate his wife so when the inevitable affair happens it will be considered socially acceptable.
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I'd argue that the only reason she fears lying to him is that it might push him away, she's afraid of being caught lying.
But who knows. I'm actually irritated that they set the show up in a way that you hate his wife so when the inevitable affair happens it will be considered socially acceptable.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. But wtf happened there? "We're getting married!" and gone from the show for two episodes. WTF?
I'd argue that the only reason she fears lying to him is that it might push him away, she's afraid of being caught lying.
But who knows. I'm actually irritated that they set the show up in a way that you hate his wife so when the inevitable affair happens it will be considered socially acceptable.[/quote]
Agreed. But wtf happened there? "We're getting married!" and gone from the show for two episodes. WTF?[/QUOTE]
Maybe her schedule on Heroes contradicted with her schedule on Glee?
Green_Lantern
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and the home made versions \o/
also
Ok that is really bothering me too. I hate that crap when writers pull it. YES his marriage sucks, YES it's probably not a healthy marriage and it's only together under false pretenses but that doesn't make violating your marriage vows ok. Not to mention he's already so emotionally involved with the other woman that he's already cheating on his wife, who deserves it, don't get me wrong but it doesn't make me look at him like he's a "good" guy.
I really hope it doesn't devolve into the typical hollywood "follow your heart" crap that really means "make me happy no matter who I have to hurt so long as I get my instant gratification".
Other than that the show brings nothing but smiles. But that really bugs me.
Ok that is really bothering me too. I hate that crap when writers pull it. YES his marriage sucks, YES it's probably not a healthy marriage and it's only together under false pretenses but that doesn't make violating your marriage vows ok. Not to mention he's already so emotionally involved with the other woman that he's already cheating on his wife, who deserves it, don't get me wrong but it doesn't make me look at him like he's a "good" guy.
I really hope it doesn't devolve into the typical hollywood "follow your heart" crap that really means "make me happy no matter who I have to hurt so long as I get my instant gratification".
Other than that the show brings nothing but smiles. But that really bugs me.[/QUOTE]
Basically this. But it happens so frequently, I'm getting pretty desensitized to it. It was pretty obvious from the word go that that was where things were going with that character. I was hoping to be surprised. But I wasn't. Eeh.
Maybe ya'll should wait until the show actually does something before you talk shit about them for doing it
Considering everything we have discussed has already happened except for him actually having a physical affair I'd say it's pretty clear we are discussing the events of the show.
Don't get so defensive, it's still a GOOD show.
It has done something. It's written an unfaithful husband, (maybe not technically, but his relationship with whatsherface is inappropriate) and cast his wife as the villain in the situation.
It has done something. It's written an unfaithful husband, (maybe not technically, but his relationship with whatsherface is inappropriate) and cast his wife as the villain in the situation.[/QUOTE]
Well, Rob, I wouldn't argue the SHOW did anything wrong by writing complicated characters. It's just made it hard to root for the main guy since he's acting sleazy. I'm sure to the writers, who have made his wife a rather over the top bad guy, it's all perfect and good. It's pretty typical storytelling, but I'd rather see him fighting for his marriage and then if it ends go after the other, clearly better girl. Makes him less... sleazy.
He hasn't been unfaithful at all! And even Teri isn't a black-and-white villain. She's been mostly portrayed as being in over her head, and not knowing what to do, and loving her husband very much. And she's getting TERRIBLE advice from her sister. The whole addicted to psuedophed thing wasn't her being malicious, just ignorant (it is a pretty small town!)
I disagree about her, I think they have made a rather dimwitted villain (not all evil, but rather over the top) of a wife, designed merely to push you to want him to be with the counselor.
As to being unfaithful or not, I think many of us here have different ideas of what being unfaithful is than you.
Again, it doesn't make it a bad show.
Green_Lantern
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I disagree about her, I think they have made a rather dimwitted villain (not all evil, but rather over the top) of a wife, designed merely to push you to want him to be with the counselor.
As to being unfaithful or not, I think many of us here have different ideas of what being unfaithful is than you.
Again, it doesn't make it a bad show.[/QUOTE]
The show is full of dead tropes, such, that the bad actually managed to work with the good, to make it awesome, I dunno xp
I watched episode 4 so far, there are few things that bother me, but is a great show.
I still think is going to get cancelled u.u
Green_Lantern
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Neither do I ^^
also, the gay kid, is start to annoy me =P
also, there is no love for the "say a little prayer" bear version?
also, the gay kid, is start to annoy me =P
also, there is no love for the "say a little prayer" bear version?
How do you mean? He seems to be one of the most(only?) honest gay characters on TV.
Green_Lantern
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How do you mean? He seems to be one of the most(only?) honest gay characters on TV.[/QUOTE]
"honest" as "good" or as in "realistic"?
How do you mean? He seems to be one of the most(only?) honest gay characters on TV.[/QUOTE]
"honest" as "good" or as in "realistic"?[/QUOTE]
Honest, true to himself, not a stereotype, etc.
Green_Lantern
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How do you mean? He seems to be one of the most(only?) honest gay characters on TV.[/QUOTE]
"honest" as "good" or as in "realistic"?[/QUOTE]
Honest, true to himself, not a stereotype, etc.[/QUOTE]
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How do you mean? He seems to be one of the most(only?) honest gay characters on TV.[/QUOTE]
"honest" as "good" or as in "realistic"?[/QUOTE]
Honest, true to himself, not a stereotype, etc.[/QUOTE]
He strikes me as a stereotype, I mean, he's effeminate, clean, dresses well, etc. Pretty much everything I gather is part of the gay stereotype. Still though, I like the character.
Green_Lantern
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How do you mean? He seems to be one of the most(only?) honest gay characters on TV.[/QUOTE]
"honest" as "good" or as in "realistic"?[/QUOTE]
Honest, true to himself, not a stereotype, etc.[/QUOTE]
He strikes me as a stereotype, I mean, he's effeminate, clean, dresses well, etc. Pretty much everything I gather is part of the gay stereotype. Still though, I like the character.[/QUOTE]
His sarcasm pass straight trough your radar right?
Okay, well, all the characters on Glee are stereotypes to a certain degree. But I think Kurt is really three-dimensional, and I venture he has possibly gotten the most development out of anyone on the show.
Green_Lantern
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Well, indeed he got a much better treatment than the any LGBT character in a mainstream show, but my problem is that he looks to much like a miniature version of jack from will&grace.
Definitely. At the moment I feel like the black girl (I can't even remember her name) is the least-fleshed out right now. Until this week I had thought it was the Asian girl, but they gave her some story finally.
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TotalFusionOne
With all this Kurt talk I just want to add... The best character on the show so far is Kurt's dad. The way he's being played is just absolutely perfect and so not what I expected from the show.
I admittedly haven't seen a minute of Greek
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