Pirate Bay Charging For Membership. Demonoid Gone.... Damnit!
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doomdragon6
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isohunt
*shrug* It's what people said about Napster/Itunes. (Granted I don't pay for either of those since it's really easy to get mp3s and they don't take long) Torrents on the other hand can take days, and I'd be lying if I said the idea of "monitored" and "protected" torrents didn't appeal to me....
*shrug* It's what people said about Napster/Itunes. [/QUOTE]
If anyone said that it wasn't about this discussion. Those services paid the artist for the work, unlike TPB, where you are paying some nerds to run servers so people can illegally download stuff. There is a world of difference. On allows you to support the artists/shows/movies/etc you like and one supports someone who isn't connected to that at all. (I'm not talking about the moral issue here, just the facts.)
*shrug* It's what people said about Napster/Itunes. [/quote]
If anyone said that it wasn't about this discussion. Those services paid the artist for the work, unlike TPB, where you are paying some nerds to run servers so people can illegally download stuff. There is a world of difference. On allows you to support the artists/shows/movies/etc you like and one supports someone who isn't connected to that at all. (I'm not talking about the moral issue here, just the facts.)[/QUOTE]
You forgot something there...
The other purpose of places like TPB are to obtain a service which isn't provided by the media companies - An easy an effective way of downloading the most recent movies and television shows on demand.
I expect that America is starting to get those services, but in many other parts of the world they haven't put their arses into gear and sorted out the licencing issues, nor are they likely to in the near future.
And when the services are available they are often covered in a layer of fetid DRM protection.
Demoniod isn't down for good... but yeah, they are having some serious problems right now and there is no deadline for when it will be back up.
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*shrug* It's what people said about Napster/Itunes. [/QUOTE]
If anyone said that it wasn't about this discussion. Those services paid the artist for the work, unlike TPB, where you are paying some nerds to run servers so people can illegally download stuff. There is a world of difference. On allows you to support the artists/shows/movies/etc you like and one supports someone who isn't connected to that at all. (I'm not talking about the moral issue here, just the facts.)[/QUOTE]
I thought Pirate Bay was charging because they were bought out by someone that wanted to become a legitimate, supporting the artist kind of place.
http://lifehacker.com/5304441/pirate-bay-planned-for-purchase-may-start-compensation-model
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LordRavage
mininova works for me at times.
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The other purpose of places like TPB are to obtain a service which isn't provided by the media companies - An easy an effective way of downloading the most recent movies and television shows on demand.
I expect that America is starting to get those services, but in many other parts of the world they haven't put their arses into gear and sorted out the licencing issues, nor are they likely to in the near future.
And when the services are available they are often covered in a layer of fetid DRM protection.[/QUOTE]
Stealing bikes is my way of obtaining Bikes on Demand service, which no bike shop is providing.
I keed, I keed. Or do I?
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TotalFusionOne
Mininova.org works pretty well. Demonoid isn't gone for good, it's just had a server crash and is going to take a month or two to come back. You can use Toorgle for searching multiple tracker sites for torrents, but only if you're intelligent enough to see through the scams and get to the meat of the torrents.
If you're going to pay for torrents, you'd be better off paying for usenet. Better speeds and it's where most torrents get their content anyway.
Also, I can't seem to find any mention of TPB going pay to download anywhere on the site itself at first glance, anyone got a link? So far I can still grab any torrent I want from there, though the servers are a bit slow.
Also, I can't seem to find any mention of TPB going pay to download anywhere on the site itself at first glance, anyone got a link? So far I can still grab any torrent I want from there, though the servers are a bit slow.
doomdragon6
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If you say so.
We just covered this in another thread. But I really not interested in semantic or legal distinctions. Just plain ol' simple definitions.
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TotalFusionOne
Okay. Simple definition.
Theft is the removing of property without consent of the owner. With downloading the property (usually) is obtained legally and then shared. There is no theft involved. Using a word incorrectly over and over does NOT make it mean what you want it to mean. I'm sorry you don't want to discuss it, mostly I've seen people I've seen on here have no problem keeping an open mind, but you can't just waltz in claim a falsity and waltz out expecting no one to call you on it. Blind compliance based on falsity leads to a authoritative dictatorship.
If you want to be completely clear on the subject, start calling out people for copyright infringement or violating performance rights. These are truthful things that the person supplying the file does on a regular basis. But it is NOT theft. No matter how much you want to twist the argument in the favour of businesses who make millions of dollars and pay the artists pennies.
Theft is the removing of property without consent of the owner. With downloading the property (usually) is obtained legally and then shared. There is no theft involved. Using a word incorrectly over and over does NOT make it mean what you want it to mean. I'm sorry you don't want to discuss it, mostly I've seen people I've seen on here have no problem keeping an open mind, but you can't just waltz in claim a falsity and waltz out expecting no one to call you on it. Blind compliance based on falsity leads to a authoritative dictatorship.
If you want to be completely clear on the subject, start calling out people for copyright infringement or violating performance rights. These are truthful things that the person supplying the file does on a regular basis. But it is NOT theft. No matter how much you want to twist the argument in the favour of businesses who make millions of dollars and pay the artists pennies.
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Reboneer
Pirate Bay and Demonoid are both crap anyway.
Demonoid is fine. Pirate Bay turned to crap once it became popular and everyone started putting viruses up.
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Reboneer
It's really not. It's horribly organised, has pretty much no quality control, no one ever seeds, the UL and DL are never counted properly (not that it matters, because the ratio requirements aren't enforced anyway)... it's pretty much just as bad as any public tracker.
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Cuyval Dar
Yeah, I need a new go-to torrent site as well. I stopped so much as glancing at TPB when the news broke about how things were going to change.
Demonoid isn't totally down, though. The tracker is up, it's just the website frontend that's not.
:arg:
Demonoid isn't totally down, though. The tracker is up, it's just the website frontend that's not.
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doomdragon6
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ISO-DICKING-HUNT
Go to isohunt.com, search, and find whatever you're looking for. It loads trackers from all over the universe. I have never not found what I was looking for on there.
Go to isohunt.com, search, and find whatever you're looking for. It loads trackers from all over the universe. I have never not found what I was looking for on there.
Yeah, but becoming a pay site, I can really see the virus count going way down....
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SeraRelm
Just lemme know what you're looking for.
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Reboneer
Isohunt sucks.
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Cuyval Dar
Isohunt sucks.[/QUOTE]
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Kitty Sinatra
This one time, at band camp . . .
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Cuyval Dar
This one time, at band camp . . .[/QUOTE]
Continue.
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Reboneer
It's not bad if you're just looking for a basic 0day tracker. I'd hardly call it the greatest tracker ever though.
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