Just Installed Win7, Need Mother Board Help

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Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I've got a MSI Eclipse SLI (MS-7520)
Chipset: Intel X58 Rev.12
Southbridge: Intel 82801JR (ICH10R)
LPCIO: Fintek F71882F

BIOS
Brand: American Megatrends Inc.
Version: V1.4B2
Date: 01/21/2009

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I need to know where to get my updated Motherboard drivers/BIOS from. I tried the MSI site and got an interesting "self-check" program that fails because it doesn't support Win7.

I tried manually downloading the Motherboard driver but am a bit uneasy about installing them without a second opinion.
 
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TotalFusionOne

That's... about the best place you're going to find.

But you might want to try running the self-check thingy in a different compatibility mode before you do anything if you're really worried about it. It took me awhile to figure this out, but hit the application file with a right click and click on properties. There's a huge compatibility section where you can run it as if it was any type of windows. Now I don't know if this Self-Check is supposed to tell you whether you need to upgrade due to your OS or not so if it is, be aware that the self-check is going to think you're in whatever mode you set it in ;D
 
Shakey

Shakey

Go with the Vista drivers until they are updated again. I haven't had any problems running Vista drivers on Win7.
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Where at?

The problem I'm having is navigating the MSI site itself to find the correct drivers and not completely oblitterate my newly formatted system.
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Figment I LITTERALLY was about to link that page.

I'm just not sure how many of those I should download? I think I have my creative drivers from my soundcard install.
 
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Cuyval Dar

Everything that does not say "for floppy" or that TPM driver.

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Also, you might as well flash your BIOS. The one you are running is pretty old.
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

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It's a damn confusing drivers page. You'd think that narrowing down the product that far wouldn't result in so many different drivers.

I'm not sure about the Creative drivers. Might be better to go with Creatives, might be better to go with MSI's version.

The Realtek drivers are probably ethernet, and I'm guessing Windows Update will have a more recent version.

The Intel 3/4/5 drivers are your MoBo's main chipset, you'll probably want these.

The JMicron and Intel RAID drivers are for IDE and SATA. I can only assume that your MoBo has a lot of connectors, and uses both the built-in Intel controller, and extra JMicron controller for even more ports. Normally I'd say that you don't need to install any of this as long as you can get the OS installed, but MSI does say to install one driver (with the red notation) to get better IDE performance. Not that it should matter much, since your HDDs shouldn't be IDE.

The Intel TPM probably isn't necessary if you're not having problems.
 
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Cuyval Dar

Ok, (depending on how you MB handles it) You shpuld be able to pop the BIOS update on a flash drive, and press some key-combo during POST to start the procedure.
 
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Cuyval Dar

I just checked the manual for your MB, and you indeed do only have to put the file on a flash drive, and enter the BIOS. Then, you just have to go to the "M-Flash" menu to flash.
 
figmentPez

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Shegokigo said:
Gonna say that I've heard "Flash BIOS" many times before but know little to nothing about it.
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The BIOS is the most basic level of your MoBo. It controls boot-up, clock speeds and all the other fundamental processes of the computer. BIOS updates usually improve compatibility with parts, fix bugs and sometimes improve performance.

It used to be that flashing the BIOS required booting from a floppy and crossing your fingers hoping you didn't give your computer a lobotomy instead of fixing things. Now it can be done from Windows, and is slightly less dangerous. Generally computer makers say to not flash your BIOS unless you're trying to fix a problem. Many geeks say always keep up with the latest version. I lean to a more conservative view, since I've had some close calls with BIOS updates, where I thought I'd fried my computer. (On the other hand, BIOS updates for my netbook have made it work a lot better.)
 
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Cuyval Dar

figmentPez said:
It's a damn confusing drivers page. You'd think that narrowing down the product that far wouldn't result in so many different drivers.

I'm not sure about the Creative drivers. Might be better to go with Creatives, might be better to go with MSI's version.

The Realtek drivers are probably ethernet, and I'm guessing Windows Update will have a more recent version.

The Intel 3/4/5 drivers are your MoBo's main chipset, you'll probably want these.

The JMicron and Intel RAID drivers are for IDE and SATA. I can only assume that your MoBo has a lot of connectors, and uses both the built-in Intel controller, and extra JMicron controller for even more ports. Normally I'd say that you don't need to install any of this as long as you can get the OS installed, but MSI does say to install one driver (with the red notation) to get better IDE performance.Not that it should matter much, since your HDDs shouldn't be IDE.

The Intel TPM probably isn't necessary if you're not having problems.
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That should say SATA performance. I don't even think that board has more that one IDE connector, if that.
And the MSI X-Fi driver is provided by Creative, specially for that board, so you should use it.
 
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Cuyval Dar

figmentPez;300479][quote=Shegokigo said:
Gonna say that I've heard "Flash BIOS" many times before but know little to nothing about it.
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The BIOS is the most basic level of your MoBo. It controls boot-up, clock speeds and all the other fundamental processes of the computer. BIOS updates usually improve compatibility with parts, fix bugs and sometimes improve performance.

It used to be that flashing the BIOS required booting from a floppy and crossing your fingers hoping you didn't give your computer a lobotomy instead of fixing things. Now it can be done from Windows, and is slightly less dangerous. Generally computer makers say to not flash your BIOS unless you're trying to fix a problem. Many geeks say always keep up with the latest version. I lean to a more conservative view, since I've had some close calls with BIOS updates, where I thought I'd fried my computer. (On the other hand, BIOS updates for my netbook have made it work a lot better.)[/QUOTE]
Her MB takes all the work out of BIOS flashing. You can even boot the new BIOS from a flash drive before overwriting the ROM.

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Shegokigo said:
So flash first, then download The Intel 3/4/5 drivers, the JMicron and Intel RAID drivers, then I leave the rest be?
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Yes. But also get the X-Fi driver. Like I said, it was made by Creative, not MSI, just for this board. It also appears to solve quite a few issues, that you may or not have experienced.
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Went through M-Flash.

Selected to Load BIOS source file from [My USB Device]

Now I'm just waiting cause it looks like it froze, but I'm going to give it some time and see what happens.
 
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Cuyval Dar

I assume you got the 2009-10-27 BIOS, right?

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And, yes, it may take a little while. Newer BIOS ROMS have gotten large enough to hold an entire mini-Linux distro.
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Cuyval Dar said:
I assume you got the 2009-10-27 BIOS, right?

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And, yes, it may take a little while. new BIOS ROMS have gotten large enough to hold an entire mini-Linux distro.
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Yeah, nothing is really happening, I can't move the cursor or anything to that extent, but I'll give it at least an hour before I get slightly worried.
 
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Cuyval Dar

I would hope you can't move the cursor within the BIOS.
You know, considering it was designed 20 years ago to work only with a mouse.:)
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

BIOS updates are good, mm'kay? The MLB Mfr docs usually say things like, "Only update if you need to have the listed problems resolved," but these docs are also aimed at people who make their money by their computers not crapping out. If you update the BIOS on 2,000 computers and it brings your company to a halt, that's one thing. One consumer playing TF2 isn't really a (their) concern.

Check to see what the BIOS fixes (usually it updates CPU microcode, allows use of newer CPUs, adjusts memory timing, stuff like that), and if it looks like stuff you might want, go ahead and update it. Many BIOS flashing programs also allow you the option of saving your current BIOS to a file on the boot device, giving you a way to return to the shipping version if you decide you really liked that one better.

If your BIOS update does not go as planned, make sure the board is set to accept an update. Some boards require a jumper or setting to be changed in order to make sure the BIOS flash is actually being done deliberately by the user, and not the result of some virus/malware trying to insert itself.

--Patrick
 
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