Blue Screen Of Death Now.....

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I can't seem to find the "exact" drivers that need rolling back.

I'm about at my wits end here....
See if you can do a system restore to prior to when you did the update, like say yesterday.

If not, start with these drivers and see where that gets you. Yours may be different depending on your CPU configuration:
 

figmentPez

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Figment I got the Prime95 64bit, ran it, and have no idea what I'm suposed to be looking at.
Prime95 is a program that was originally meant to search for prime numbers. It's very very CPU and RAM intensive, and so the stress test became a good way to find out if a system is stable. It will peg your CPU at 100% usage and use lots of RAM while doing that. If something is wrong with your motherboard, cpu or RAM, errors will show up in the stress testing (which calculates known primes). Let it run the torture test overnight (8 threads, probably, to max out your quad-core chip with hyperthreading) and if doesn't return any errors you'll know the problem is with video or sound, and not with your processor or RAM.
 
Did you run WoW as an administrator? I had some problems doing what you did because it needs to make registry entries to work properly, and it can't without doing that.

Aside from that, it's probably the BIOS. I suppose it could be hardware related, but it seems unlikely if it just started happening. I've never went backwards with a BIOS upgrade, so I'm not gonna touch that.
 
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Cuyval Dar

Get the exact specs for RAM timings and voltages from the manufacturer, and the same for the CPU, and manually set them in the BIOS. Also, disable Turbo Mode.
 
According to what I'm finding on your MoBo, there should be a CMOS reset button on the back of it somewhere. It also says that there is an actual dial that sets overclocking, I would check that. I'm completely unfamiliar with that make and model of MoBo, but if what I'm understanding correctly, you may be overclocking it without even knowing it.

BTW, from what I can find about that motherboard, it is a MONSTER overclock/geared motherboard.



The reset button would be here, if this is your motherboard. This is also where the dial that controls the OC would be.
 
If a fresh install of Win7 gives BSOD's then indeed, rolling back to XP would amount to nothing. If resetting your BIOS, drivers, formatting and checking your disk for errors (did you try this yet?) didn't solve anything, it's probably a faulty RAM module.
 
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TotalFusionOne

Hi, sorry I'm late. I just had a cam masturbating session.

So, your WoW is borked? That's sad. You said TF2 as well, right? Do you happen to be running both in Window mode? I don't know why you would, but both TF2 and WoW are having issues in a 64bit os working in windowed mode. No idea why.

Some other things to try (Most have been said already, but just my list):

Roll back your bios to an earlier version if at all possible.
Run a MEMTest to make sure you don't have borked RAM (That would be random that it happened at the same time).
Do a FRESH INSTALL of WoW instead of running it out of the Windows.old folder

Actually, I like that last one the best. Yes, it's a pain in the ass. But you really shouldn't be running programs out of the Windows.old folder as the registry settings are going to be COMPLETELY different now.
 
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So get this:

I reformat the HD, I install windows7 fresh, grab WoW out of my windows.old folder, run WoW......

BSOD

Just reinstall every game fresh instead of using the Windows.old folder. That's mainly for files, pictures, etc.

When I did a clean Win 7 install, I reloaded everything fresh.

If you can't find drivers for hardware, google it and it should get you to the right place. If anything use Vista drivers. I'm using the Vista chipsets on my laptop and they're working just fine.
 
it's a sign you should stop playing, leave your earthly possessions behind and do that thing Shannow always talks about.
 
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TotalFusionOne

Which was is Shannow? The one who likes little girls or the one who wants to commit suicide? This board is hard to follow :\
 

Shannow

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yeah, i know, i'm new at this shit
And failing. You really should try to develop your own thing. Being a simple ass, while it is clearly a trait you are born with and cursed to have for the rest of your existance, is not enough. Try to broaden your horizons, and develop something of your own. Though that may be impossible (A hanging suicide in a closet while naked would be the best suggestion), you should still try.

To do that, I would suggest that you back away from the pc, Math, and go outside. It is time to see new things, and learn. Basically, you should wander the earth, have adventures, and meet people and shit. You know, like Kane from Kung Fu.
 
Second vote for reinstallation of WoW (or any other program, for that matter). The windows.old folder is there so that you can pull out your old data (pictures, saved games, addresses, etc). Trying to restore applications/utilities from within it (especially such complex ones as WoW) is usually doomed to failure due to having to also find all the .dll and other dependent files and restore them to their proper locations, too.

This is the main reason why most people don't attempt to repair/upgrade a Windows installation, they just back up the important files and reformat, then reinstall everything from original discs/downloads. Usually, it's less of a hassle, even if it does take an entire weekend.

--Patrick
 
Second vote for reinstallation of WoW (or any other program, for that matter). The windows.old folder is there so that you can pull out your old data (pictures, saved games, addresses, etc). Trying to restore applications/utilities from within it (especially such complex ones as WoW) is usually doomed to failure due to having to also find all the .dll and other dependent files and restore them to their proper locations, too.

This is the main reason why most people don't attempt to repair/upgrade a Windows installation, they just back up the important files and reformat, then reinstall everything from original discs/downloads. Usually, it's less of a hassle, even if it does take an entire weekend.

--Patrick
That is not true of WoW. You can copy WoW over to any folder, or external drive and it will run perfectly fine. I've always just moved over my WoW folder any time I've done an OS upgrade (I do clean installs). BTW, she has already done the steps listed above and it didn't do anything, she is still getting the BSOD.

The trouble didn't start until she flashed her bios, I'm still thinking that's the problem.
 
(You can tell I don't play WoW, right?)
Some programs are well-designed and keep all their configuration data and dependencies in the same folder. I'm actually glad to see that Blizzard does this.

OK, I'm at a loss. In my gut, I feel that there have to be 'good' settings for the BIOS, but I'll admit that my usual solution to computer problems like this is, "Give me your computer for a couple days," which I don't think will work in this situation. Assuming that backup BIOS was kept, it might be a good idea to try and restore to it to see if that is indeed the problem. However, if that doesn't fix it, then we're back to the settings issue again.

Only other thing that's coming to mind might be DEP/NX issues BUT...I've often found that when this many 'experts' are stumped by something, it usually turns out to be something incredibly simple. In fact, the more stumped experts, the more likely this is to be true*.

--Patrick

*with many exceptions.
 
Just a heads up, I took it to my brother (4hrs away) and he found out that the BSOD is being caused by a Nvidia Driver and DirectX 11 conflict.

If anyone knows much about how to fix this, let me know, he's a bit at a loss. Trying to find a combination of Nvidia Driver + DirectX that will work.
 
Have you tried the beta Nvidia drivers? They may be flaky, but if it's not working at all right now it may not be a bad idea.
 
As i recall a 32bit OS won't be using any more RAM anyway, aka 1st one gets the OS and see if it works then buy more RAM.
 
That completely depends on the bus speed Shego.

Nonetheless, you should have waited till SP1. It's a guarantee that your computer's hardware doesn't have 100% compatibility with the new OS from Microsoft and may be some time before it will. 4GB with a 32 bit system = good for now

You'd think that a new OS, updated DirectX and all the hoopla coming from Win7 would be better for you or your gaming experience, but you are severely mistakened. It'll be a solid year before it'll work as good as or better than XP. When Nvidia will come out with their drivers to make your card work correctly, it'll be simply functional and won't be the innovation that you'd be hoping for. In fact, most cards that have been released before DirectX 11 and Win 7 will NEVER be as good as they could run in an XP environment as their intent wasn't for that Win7 environment. That and the fact that companies who make hardware will do exactly what they did with Vista... do their work half-assed and with sloppy driver code.

You'll one day get compatibility and run game fine... but don't expect performance. That's all I can say about that.

I'll personally upgrade to Win7, when they got a SP2 out and my PC needs upgrading in 2012. At least then my hardware will be fit to be used for that OS.
 
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