Girl Genius General Purpose Thread
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North_Ranger
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God knows I love the Foglio's epic to bits but I'm getting so confused with all the plot twists and introductions and flashbacks... Byzantine schemes, okay, but God, even Xanatos would have a headache from all this.
He took out the Pirate Queen, without killing her... twice. Then drug her and the Baron out of a blimp afterwards. Not only that, but he knew exactly where to hit the Muse to disable her (not destroy her) in a single blow. Not only has he displayed some Spark knowledge, but he's more than proven himself more powerful than some of the supposed top tier in the series. He's probably a Heterodyne.[/QUOTE]
He lacks other spark traits such as wanting to take charge, show off, and he has yet to build anything spark worthy. As I said, he's resourceful. No doubt about that. Moloch has shown he can be quite resourceful too, even to the effect that he knows a good deal about the machines and devices that the sparks use. But it's already been established that he is not a spark. He's just a fine good Mechanic.
Perhaps, at the most, Higgs is a very low level spark, much like the folks in the traveling circus. But my gut tells me he's just a very talented individual who can stay uncommonly calm in all situations. So he's either a trained warrior, an amazing lackey, or a construct.
I have been thinking.
Most of the Heterodynes have been blood thirsty and crazy (even by spark standards) with a complete disregard for human life. But for some reason William and Barry where decidedly a lot less maniacal. Well what f the reason they were not as crazy as their ancestors was becuase they never drank the water from the dyne? What if the drinking of the dyne was a Heterodyne tradition of a sorts that would allow one to have seemingly perfect understanding of understanding of everything. But it has the side effect of making them super unstable and maniacally insane with a complete disregard for human life? If William and Barry realized this at some point it may be that they deliberately decided to drink the water from the dyne sop as to spare themselves from losing all that they where. Of course the dyne could also be used as a secret weapon by the Heterodyne's and whenever thy faced a huge threat they would drink from the dyne and gain super intelligence and clarity at a cost. The castle did mention that (here) that it never became necessary for them to learn of the castles true power source even stating that they had philosophical differences. Of course this is all just a crazy theory but hey you never know.
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The Dyne's water AND electricity.
Well I must say so far I like the side effects of the dynes water on Agatha
electricity is important.
The Dyne's water AND electricity.
Well I must say so far I like the side effects of the dynes water on Agatha
electricity is important.[/QUOTE]
true very true
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You know, I'm getting quite frustrated with the Foglios. Going into Castle Heterodyne, they had a great, somewhat-straightforward storyline that had enough mystery and complexity to keep things extremely interesting. But now, we can hardly go three pages without finding another cryptic centuries-old secret, a complicated relationship, or a hidden motive.
I still get the feeling that the Foglios know what they're doing, but there's so much going on that it almost feels like soap opera writing.
I still get the feeling that the Foglios know what they're doing, but there's so much going on that it almost feels like soap opera writing.
(crazy idea/question below)
Does anyone else feel that the Professors are toying with us by having Otilia/The Castle saying " Ah, yes, h/h/how time does fly" with the word "fly" bolded. Now maybe I am reading way to much into this but we know that Agatha either creates or discovers someone else's method of time travel or at least time viewing. So does Otilia's/The Castles remark mean something more profound about events yet to come? Or am I just reading way too much into this?
(another crazy theory)
If the dynes water does cause people to act a bit insane than I have to wonder since the Castle is being powered by the dyne would that explain why he/it is as maniacal/twisted/insane/fun as he/it is?
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Well, whatever's going on, Othar's going to screw things up royally. This is a fact.
Something about the last few comics seem off. The pacing. The humor. I feel as though the comic has taken an unwanted turn ever since Agatha suddenly obtained super brilliance. Now it feels like a Richie Rich comic, where the solution to every problem is only your most valuable resource, and one comic page, away. Heck, check out the pose in panel 4 which looks like something Uncle Scrooge or even Dagwood would do when in deep thought.
Gil and Tarvek are best buds again. Agatha no longer seems to have any romantic interest in either of them. Lucrezia has been banished by a force of will and unlikely to return again any time soon. There's just no drama anymore.
I dunno. It just feels like Foglio is rushing us through the plot.
North_Ranger
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Or maybe, MAYBE Agatha is more worried about the situation with the Castle and its imminent destruction - likely causing much of Mechanicsburg go kablooie as well - than about whom she wants plugging her socket 
I think that Foglio ended up spending longer in the castle than he attended to and now he is trying to get back on track. As far as today's comic goes, what do you think is down that hole? I am thinking some kind of mind transfer device and I am imaging that Agatha is going to be doing some mind swapping in the near future.
...what? Gil and Tarvek were fighting not two comics ago! Agatha gave up her "super brilliance" to save their lives, pretty obviously because she loved them, what, four comics ago.
I mean, I agree that the timing seems a bit off, I think they've just been in the castle for too long. But your other critisisms just seem silly and wrong.
...what? Gil and Tarvek were fighting not two comics ago! Agatha gave up her "super brilliance" to save their lives, pretty obviously because she loved them, what, four comics ago.
I mean, I agree that the timing seems a bit off, I think they've just been in the castle for too long. But your other critisisms just seem silly and wrong.[/QUOTE]
We'll you obviously have your opinion set in stone if you are going to use words like "silly" and "wrong", but I don't consider that brawl anything more than a joke on Foglio's part. "You're my friend. No You're my friend. *pause* DIE!!!!" The tension is not the same as before. When I say fighting I mean that before there was an obvious issue between the two of them. Tarvek despised Gil because of what happened when they were kids. In fact they seem to have made up without really going into further detail about that event. Which is also frustrating because hey, I want to know why Gil turned in Tarvek those many years ago and then get more information regarding Gil's life in Paris. We've heard Tarvek's side, but Gil has really yet to give us his.
Plus it can be completely attributed to the si vales valeo and the need to blow off extra energy. Even Agatha does a completely non-agatha thing and joins in on the fight.
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I... don't think I'm enjoying this comic any more.
We'll you obviously have your opinion set in stone if you are going to use words like "silly" and "wrong", but I don't consider that brawl anything more than a joke on Foglio's part. "You're my friend. No You're my friend. *pause* DIE!!!!" The tension is not the same as before. When I say fighting I mean that before there was an obvious issue between the two of them. Tarvek despised Gil because of what happened when they were kids. In fact they seem to have made up without really going into further detail about that event. Which is also frustrating because hey, I want to know why Gil turned in Tarvek those many years ago and then get more information regarding Gil's life in Paris. We've heard Tarvek's side, but Gil has really yet to give us his.
Plus it can be completely attributed to the si vales valeo and the need to blow off extra energy. Even Agatha does a completely non-agatha thing and joins in on the fight.[/QUOTE]
Hey, sorry if I came across as accusatory or anything. But seriously, it's only been a few comics since Agatha got her "super brilliance", and in that time I don't see any evidence that they are best friends. The only interaction they've had was the fight. Sure, it wasn't a SERIOUS fight or anything, they were blowing off steam, etc. But it's hardly evidence that they no longer have issues.
In fact, right before the fight, they very clearly express their issues with each other via sarcasm. Read it again.
"Ah. Sturmvoraus. I see you've recovered! How refreshing to hear you doing something other than whining or raving. A bit of a first, now that I think about it."
"Ah Wulfenbach. I must apologize. I imagine when you discovered that your magnificent selfless gesture would actually inconvenience you for more than fifteen minutes, it was quite vexing. So sorry for the trouble."
This isn't them saying "you're my friend". It's sarcasm. Very thinly veiled sarcasm. And, again, I still don't know where you got the idea that Agatha is no longer in love with them.
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New page is up. This one even looks like it was drawn in a rush.
Something's going on with the Foglios, I think. Maybe they're getting bored of the story?
Something's going on with the Foglios, I think. Maybe they're getting bored of the story?
I just had a thought concerning Higgs. It's mostly wild speculation, but since he displayed amazing technical knowledge, seems indestructible and has memory of older Heterodynes, what if he is the other of the Heterodyne brothers (I forget which one was Agatha's father)? Under a fake name, infiltrating in the Baron's army for...keeping the realm safe? I'm not sure how it would fit in, but the castle knew him, which I think allows us to pin him as a Heterodyne. Maybe.
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If he's a heterodyne, Von Pinn will definitely recognize him.
Major brownie points to Gil in this round!
On a side note where the heck did Gil's necklace go to? It seems to have just vanished during the whole revivification process. I was figuring earlier that someone must have taken it off during the procedure but now he is all dressed up again and still no necklace. I mean after the whole saving her family bit just now. Imagine how many more brownie points he would get when Agatha finally notices the necklace.
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Well, honestly, I never understood why Agatha even likes Tarvek.
Tarvek pretty much got her into that situation in Strumhalten in the first place. Letting Agatha be placed in the machine was a retarded idea. 1) The most likely outcome was her death. 2) If she didn't die it would put The Other back in charge of the city. Either way I think that if Tarvek gave a damn about her he would have done something about it before and not after she got strapped in. He's a much stronger Spark than anyone else in his family. He could have easily pulled it off. He probably just was curious to see what would happen.
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Also, Tarvek ruined the message warning about the Other that Agatha was trying to send.
Pretty much, he's a dick.
Pretty much, he's a dick.
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