Lost: The Final Season (un-marked spoilers as it airs on the East Coast)
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You may be on to something there. He might be looking for Ben to get the group he is with now to that island.
As for Smokey killing everyone off, I don't know. He could kill everyone off right now and take the sub if he wanted to. I wonder if his power is limited to the one specific island. He can't use his smoke form to kill everyone and take the sub, so he's using everyone else to do it for him.
I honestly don't understand why Smokey wouldn't just wait them out if they were doing that. He clearly doesn't need to eat or sleep, so even if they hid behind the powder or devices, he could just wait for them to eventually die of thirst or starvation (baring an Air-Drop of supplies). Even then they'd eventually die of exposure.
Latest episode? Shit is getting REAL, son! That was probably the best episode of the season so far. I've been dying to know what Richard's secret is, most of which I'd already figured out (slave on the Black Rock, immortal, etc), but to see it unfolding? Someone else pointed out that the writers basically used Richard as a device to reveal more about Smokey and Jacob.
So, what we know, now:
-The island is a prison for Smokey, who may or may not be the embodiment of evil or just very evil in general.
-Jacob is its guardian.
-They have a very similar game of challenging the morals of good people, very similar to God and the Devil with the story of Job.
-We now know how the statue was destroyed.
-We know about the Black Rock.
Goddamn, the more I think about it, the more I realize how much they revealed in this one episode. Answers are comin', people. The one I can't wait for the most, though? The future episode that reveals the origins of Jacob and Smokey. I don't think it's next week, but it's comin'.
So, what we know, now:
-The island is a prison for Smokey, who may or may not be the embodiment of evil or just very evil in general.
-Jacob is its guardian.
-They have a very similar game of challenging the morals of good people, very similar to God and the Devil with the story of Job.
-We now know how the statue was destroyed.
-We know about the Black Rock.
Goddamn, the more I think about it, the more I realize how much they revealed in this one episode. Answers are comin', people. The one I can't wait for the most, though? The future episode that reveals the origins of Jacob and Smokey. I don't think it's next week, but it's comin'.
No, they've said that one of the later episodes (close to the finale) will be a full backstory on them, much like last night's was on Richard's.
Last I checked, what the people behind Lost say in interviews isn't something that's aired on the season in an episode. Could y'all spoil that in the future? I don't want to know anything about upcoming episodes.
Sorry, I didn't think it'd be much of a spoiler that THINGS WILL BE REVEALED. Anyway, I can't remember where I read it, but Lost is built around showing us the backstories of everyone important. I'd be disappointed if they DIDN'T do an episode the two of them.
Still, I'm sorry. Next time, I'll put a spoiler behind something like that.
Still, I'm sorry. Next time, I'll put a spoiler behind something like that.
Yeah, I thought Smokey would be replaced, but you're right. I don't think that's the case.
And I think his wife in the cargo hold was Smokey, as well. Jacob didn't recognize the guy at all when he tried to attack.
And I think his wife in the cargo hold was Smokey, as well. Jacob didn't recognize the guy at all when he tried to attack.
I meant at the very end, talking to Hurley.
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You know, the whole Ghost Whisperer sequence.
Ahhhhhhhh. Right, sorry.
Yeah, it could be Jacob. But I don't know. He doesn't seem like the shapechanging trickster type. And psychic abilities have been showcased before, such as Miles.
Yeah, it could be Jacob. But I don't know. He doesn't seem like the shapechanging trickster type. And psychic abilities have been showcased before, such as Miles.
Didn't God just let Satan screw with Job to his heart content while doing nothing to help him to prove a point? Jacob seems to be too involved...
Didn't God just let Satan screw with Job to his heart content while doing nothing to help him to prove a point? Jacob seems to be too involved...[/QUOTE]
Basically this. In the story of Jobe, God really does come off as a heartless jerk, as he lets Satan take away everything Jobe had going for him for no other reason than to prove he was right.
Didn't God just let Satan screw with Job to his heart content while doing nothing to help him to prove a point? Jacob seems to be too involved...[/QUOTE]
Basically this. In the story of Jobe, God really does come off as a heartless jerk, as he lets Satan take away everything Jobe had going for him for no other reason than to prove he was right.[/QUOTE]
Well he's only a heartless jerk towards the 1st wife and kids, who are treated like replaceable goods (Job gets taken care of in the end at least)... but i guess they don't much matter for the lesson the story is trying to convey.
Didn't God just let Satan screw with Job to his heart content while doing nothing to help him to prove a point? Jacob seems to be too involved...[/QUOTE]
Basically this. In the story of Jobe, God really does come off as a heartless jerk, as he lets Satan take away everything Jobe had going for him for no other reason than to prove he was right.[/QUOTE]
Well he's only a heartless jerk towards the 1st wife and kids, who are treated like replaceable goods (Job gets taken care of in the end at least)... but i guess they don't much matter for the lesson the story is trying to convey.[/QUOTE]
And what lesson is that? Jobe's life was turned upside down on a bet. It doesn't matter that Jobe got a new family and new success, because he never would have needed it if God hadn't been such a capricious asshole and taken it away from him in the first place.
This previous episode was possibly the best episode of Lost.
Eh, the point Satan made was that the only reason Job worshipped God was that he got all that nice stuff in exchange... so it wasn't like God was only seeing if we could win 50$ from Satan.
Eh, the point Satan made was that the only reason Job worshipped God was that he got all that nice stuff in exchange... so it wasn't like God was only seeing if we could win 50$ from Satan.[/QUOTE]
But it really doesn't absolve God from his actions ether. The real question you need to ask yourself about this story is if Job would have kept worshiping God if he knew that he had his life ruined just to prove a point to Satan?
Eh, the point Satan made was that the only reason Job worshipped God was that he got all that nice stuff in exchange... so it wasn't like God was only seeing if we could win 50$ from Satan.[/QUOTE]
But it really doesn't absolve God from his actions ether. The real question you need to ask yourself about this story is if Job would have kept worshiping God if he knew that he had his life ruined just to prove a point to Satan?[/QUOTE]
I don't think this line of thought is on topic. Perhaps the religious subforum would be a better place for it?
Eh, the point Satan made was that the only reason Job worshipped God was that he got all that nice stuff in exchange... so it wasn't like God was only seeing if we could win 50$ from Satan.[/QUOTE]
But it really doesn't absolve God from his actions ether. The real question you need to ask yourself about this story is if Job would have kept worshiping God if he knew that he had his life ruined just to prove a point to Satan?[/QUOTE]
I don't think this line of thought is on topic. Perhaps the religious subforum would be a better place for it?[/QUOTE]
Actually, it kind of does. What reason does anyone have to trust Jacob's judgment? Because he says the Black Smoke wants to end all life? Smokey may not be the most trustworthy or compassionate of individuals, but considering Jacob has likely killed hundreds more in his attempts to contain him, can we really claim him as the lesser of two evils? To be more to the point, everyone Smokey has killed was only in danger because Jacob dragged them to the Island in the first place.
This has a parable with the story of Job: Job's life was only ruined because God decided that making a point to Satan was more important than Job's happiness. It really doesn't matter that things worked out in the end for Job, because things would have been fine if God hadn't messed up his life to begin with. It also doesn't absolve him of killing Job's first wife and their children, whom things certainly didn't work out for.
In other words, why does anyone trust Jacob, when all he's done is endanger people in order to find a replacement anyways?
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