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Ferahgo

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FYI Necronic, you need a 8.0+ standing with a npc corporation to create jump clones in their medical facilities (whether you have it, or corp has the standing). Atm, Corp has an 8.04 with Caldari Navy, so everyone in the corp can make jump clones at caldari navy stations.
 

Dave

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Jump Clones 101

After much frustration with the whole topic of jump clones I finally cornered Necronic and asked him a bit more about them. Unfortunately I got nothing but unsatisfying answers and was confused as shit. How could I get a JC in Tew when the only corp that I could buy one from was 21 jumps away? I knew he must have a good standing with Tew but that didn't help us new people. I already had a JC 21 jumps away but didn't know how to use the damned thing. So this morning Necronic and I were online at the same time and after many bits of information finally plugging the holes left in my knowledge, I now know how to use Jump Clones.

Here are the steps for using Jump Clones:


  1. Train in the skill Infomorph Psychology. Each level of skill allows you to have 1 jump clone somewhere.
  2. To get a clone you'll either have to have a corp standing with the place you want the clone (which we don't) or you'll have to quit HalCorp temporarily and join a new corp. There is a corp that deals exclusively with Jump Clones that was discussed earlier.
  3. Pay 100,000 ISK for said jump clone.
  4. Okay, now I had done all of that but here's where my knowledge had the holes. To activate the jump clone you should be in a station. Click on your Character Sheet - NOT the medical facilities as I'd thought.
  5. Pause your skill training.
  6. Get out of your ship!! You can't be in the ship when you do this.
  7. In your character sheet, click Jump Clones
  8. Where it says the location of your jump clone, RIGHT CLICK and say "jump clone".
You are now in the station where you set up your jump clone. You can do this once every 24 hours.

Here's the beautiful part. Say you have a clone in Tew and another clone in TimbukTew, which are 36 jumps apart. But you want one of your clones to be in Tosh. Take your clone from Tew to Tosh and jump back to TimbukTew. Your jump clone is now in Tosh, not Tew. So I have one now in Tew and will use the other for low sec stuff where we're setting up tomorrow. If we make a low sec base of operations I'll have 1 there and 1 in Tew.

I hope this helps because I was fuckall confused about Jump Clones.
 

Necronic

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I assume we'll be using the forum vent server. I believe the info for it is on the board somewhere. Anyone know the linkage?
 
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ah, that's bad, they should talk to the ventrilo people and find a way to integrate that non-resource hogging audio awesomeness.
 

Dave

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I'm running into last minute "I wanna go to Walmart"-ness from the wife. Fighting that battle so I can fight the battle.
 

Necronic

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so is anyone else coming on? Right now only mal and chris are here, although I know dave will be back on in a sec
 

Necronic

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so, wrapup of todays op. Tried to go do low sec mining. Did not turn out very good. Never got anything mined, and lost like 4 ships. Then ferago found us a wormhole mining site. Jumped in there and mined for about 3 hours, got some great loot. Everyone involved (mal, keorean, rick, dave, and chris) got a 6.4 mil payout.

In the end it wasn't completely a loss, but any of yall could have made more money running missions with ferago or straker. So I don't think we'll be doing any big ops like that again, at least not for profit.

What I do want to do is lift the ban on open pvp. I want people to go out to low sec and have fun. Treat everyone there as your bitch. There is a very small chance that we may get a war dec for doing this, but I wouldn't worry about it. So go out to low sec. Go with friends or on your own. Go get some kills. The first person to get on the killboard (aside from straker, ferago, or myself) gets a 10 mil isk reward.

Final note is that my activity is going to seriously diminish over the next couple of weeks. I've been playing pretty heavily, both for my own pleasure and also to get everyone hooked, and its starting to affect my school and whatnot. As of now I think you guys are well hooked, so I am gonna let yall go free range, as it were.

Anyways, good show by all. For you EU TZ people I am really trying to ramp up the recruitment drive, try and give yall some playmates. If you know people who might be interested try bringing them in.
 
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I THINK I might download this this week and use the 21-day trial Ravenpoe so awesomely hooked me up with. THINK.
 
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Andromache

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i played eve. I didnt really ever get stunningly- game endingly ruined, but the yield on faux economies can only take me so far for the nuts and bolts gank, or be ganked reward..Its more fun to read about the betrayals while doing other things than the artificial job. That said, maybe if Calleja logs in....
 
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I think once more of the mining/explorer group have a chance to upgrade their skills/ships (not to mention get more people), runs like that will be more profitable. Was still fun to do it.

I imagine we're way too low as a group to be trying to fight Sleepers?
 
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Rubicon

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so, from I gather a jump clone is just a fancy expensive way to bind yourself to several places you may or may not want to instantly teleport to rather than travel the distance?

i'd love to get into eve but.. i'm just not devoting a year of my time to becoming truly pvp viable
 
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I think once more of the mining/explorer group have a chance to upgrade their skills/ships (not to mention get more people), runs like that will be more profitable. Was still fun to do it.

I imagine we're way too low as a group to be trying to fight Sleepers?
We fought off some low level sleepers today before you got to the wormhole. Sleeper frigates, destroyers, and cruisers really aren't too much trouble to deal with. Right now the issue is mostly with having enough miners in mining barges and such to harvest things faster.
 
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Straker

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Tactical recap and analysis of Sunday's event: We got the team together and moved out into lowsec space. Unfortunately the natives were more numerous, better equipped, and organized than we'd hoped for.

We passed through about 2 lowsec systems on our way to our destination and we were observed but not engaged directly upon our approach. The systems were actually pretty busy. We dropped anchor on our first belt and began going to work. We were promptly engaged by a pirate Cynabal, a nasty faction cruiser, who quickly melted our scout Chris in a Rifter. We hastily assessed the situation and decided to engage but the pirate was having none of it and used his speed to break away, likely attempting to string us out. We maintained discipline though and castled up, out gunned he warped off. I think the only way to deter him from picking us off would be to have ships with comparable range and firepower and then tacklers to web and finish him. We did not have these tools at this point.

Having attracted some attention right off the bat we warped to the safety of a station in system. Some docked, others stayed out in docking range. Those who stayed had a single pirate Dominix battleship warp in on them who targeted us but did not aggress. He was then joined by second Domi followed later by a THIRD Domi. I knew we'd be ok as we could just dock up if they started shooting so we took our time coming up with another gameplan. We came to the decision to back track and try mining in a more quiet system, as this was happening the enemy fired so we docked but then I quickly ordered everyone to undock, align for gate, and warp as a whole. The maneuver worked perfectly and the fleet was able to escape the pirate station camp unscathed. There's really nothing else we could've done in this situation except obviously have more firepower, a lot more... but I was happy with how everything was handled and people staying frosty with me.

I jumped the fleet into our next destination system but did not have the scout scan out a clean belt beforehand. This had the fleet exposed on gate while we scanned the belts, a pirate in a Megathron took advantage of this and warped in on us, nailing our scout once again. I'd found a belt though and we rapidly warped to it in hopes we'd be left alone to get away with some ninja mining. This was not to be as the same sniper fit Megathron warped in on us not 2 minutes into mining. He locked and destroyed a hauler and a miner extremely fast, was very discomforting. Overwhelmed and looking outclassed again we had to make a break for it. I did not like this scenario because of how fast he worked and how helpless we were made by a single ship, we may have been able to make something happen if we had some decent ewar aboard but as it stood I was pretty certain he'd pop us to the last man.

Having encountered danger and unfavorable odds at literally every corner, we gave up on mining roids in lowsec for the day. The crew was able to make some isk thanks to Ferahgo who probed out a worm hole from highsec which was devoid of activity allowing us to mine in safety. Thanks go to Ferahgo for that. The lowsec portion of the op looks like a failure at face value but I saw us gaining a lot from the experience and it was not the complete disaster it could've been. The fleet was never wiped completely and we avoided a common pitfall, the gatecamp, though I suppose none where up. The corp got exposed to situations many had never been in and now knows what to expect a little better, we didn't get any rocks there but we did get some pretty valuable lessons and experience.

The CEO does not see much value in doing major ops in lowsec at this point and I'm inclined to agree in part. I think I may make... some efforts to find a more chill sector of lowsec to jerk around in sometime and I think the real price tag is not measured in isk but in the interactions with other players out there. Think of it as a not-so gentle familiarization process. :) There are many things in EVE you must learn by doing, so I may get us together and have another go at it sometime but nothing major of that sort for a while I don't think.

Thanks go out to those who turned out and participated and Big Ups to Ferahgo for the advice and worm hole opportunity.
 
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Damn, I'm so stoned that that wall of text literally made push my head back as if punched.

The wall of text literally landed a critical blow for like 20d6 damage on me.
 
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i fucking hate my work. 9 PM, about to log in Eve and be on time for the OP then i get a call from the factory.

The entrance system is messed up, cards can't be read. the chemical system is also down.

It was not a good night
 

Dave

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I had a tricked out mining Osprey. Had being the key word. The miner that he blowed up real good? That was me. But it was my fault as I was too slow recalling my drones. Next time I leave the mining drones to be scooped or popped and save my 4 mil ISK ship instead.

It was not a good trade off.
 

Necronic

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so, from I gather a jump clone is just a fancy expensive way to bind yourself to several places you may or may not want to instantly teleport to rather than travel the distance?

i'd love to get into eve but.. i'm just not devoting a year of my time to becoming truly pvp viable
What do you mean by pvp viable?

T1 Frigate - 2 weeks
T1 Cruiser - 1 month
T1 BattleCruiser - 3 months

Bear can back this up. Should be in a very nasty 'cane fit soon.

And frigates are not worthless pvp ships:

www.eve-pirate.com


Calleja and Crone, we would love to have you in corp.

Also, Lord Rendar, the ban on open pvp is gone. Go kill some miners. Like I said, 10 mil to first killmail from a noob.
 
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I certainly can back that up. I won the PvP frigate tourney after just a few weeks (admittedly, against new players like myself). I'm currently flying around cruisers after just over a month and in about two weeks I'll have a pretty kickass battlecruiser to jump into which should put me on the gank train to rape town.
 
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we'll have to duel when we're both in our BC's.

(i'd vote for no destruction tho :p )
 
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I had a tricked out mining Osprey. Had being the key word. The miner that he blowed up real good? That was me. But it was my fault as I was too slow recalling my drones. Next time I leave the mining drones to be scooped or popped and save my 4 mil ISK ship instead.

It was not a good trade off.
Yuck. I hope you were insured. :p
 

Dave

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Nope. The only ship I had that wasn't. So they sent me 1.5 mil ISK as a pity policy.
 
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Andromache

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if I came back, it wouldnt be to "hook up." just ruin calejabbara's day :)
 

Necronic

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Plus the Corp funds were used to insure ship losses, since any losses were mainly causedby me pickng a poor op location.
 
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I was ABOUT to download this when I decided to plug my microphone in... forgot I still can't get it to work properly on Windows7, it's static 75% of the time with me barely audible in the background.... it's a driver thing cause it works fine in XP, but I'm not willing to boot over in XP cause I love Win7 SO EFFIN MUCH.


So, my question is, how necessary is the microphone thing?
 
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Ferahgo

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Not Necessary. Can just listen/type in chat ingame.
 
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So working on the loadout in EFT for the Hurricane I plan on building made me start looking at other ships that can speed tank.

I really, really, really want a Vagabond now.
 
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Ferahgo

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Vagabond -used- to be good, its pretty bad now. The Cynabal is the new FOTM and will also take less training to get into
 
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So.. let's say I downloaded this today..when would it be a good time to hop on so I have some sort of guide in what looks like the scariest game ever for a newb?
 
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Evening, usually. You should put your character name in here so we know who to look for.

Edit: Fer, I hadn't even considered the Cynabal. It looks nice.
 
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