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EvE online, you don't have the stuff

I'm starting to do the Exploration carrer guide mission tree---- thing. The mission is to build 2 afterburners, but it won't let me cause I need the "necessary industry skill"... how do I get that? How do I know WHAT I need to get?

This IS a bit confusing...
If you show info on the blueprint, it should tell you what skill you need. Most of the time in the tutorial, they provide you with the skill you need, otherwise you need to buy it.

Exploration takes patience, but seems fun. I may head in that direction after building my mining skills a bit.[/QUOTE]

TeKeo snubbed my invite to chat. I totally showered today![/QUOTE]

When you mailed me, I realized that must have been you.

When the chat window popped up, something bugged, and it wouldn't tell me who wanted to talk to me, or let me accept.

So I just closed the window. Sorry! :p
 

Necronic

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I am considering purchaising some t1 bpo's for tehg, mainly for my own profit, but it makes sense to me to be building stuff the Corp may want. So far here's the main items I am looking at:

ammo.
Frigates.
Cruisers.

Within those 3 groups which specific items would you like to see more of in the Corp hangar? Due to the nature of Bpo research it is impossible to make money in industry without using ME researched bpo's, and the wai time on labs is usually 1 month or more. So I will probably be buying them pre researched. Prices vary when doing this. For ammo it can be as little as 1mil, for cruisers as high as 100. So cruisers may not happen for a while.

Anyways. What do y'all want to see more of in Corp hangars? And don't say battleships.
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

I think I'm done with EvE guys. The installation/buddy account issues were bad omen enough, but that fact that to continue doing the mission I was on I need stuff that can't be accessed on a trial account irked me. Especially since I lost all that isk for no reason and they gave me no warning the trial was gimped. I didn't even get into the game enough to know if it was gonna hook me or not.

ugh... I dunno, maybe later I'll feel like trying again. The not knowing what I can and can't do bit is a huge point against that, though.
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

I'm having a blast with eve. Just about to purchase an Amarr Punisher so I can get out of my rookie ship.

Would you guys recomend a Punisher?
You get a free punisher from one of the military tutorials, so I would hold off until you've finished those. Save some cash :p
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

I think I'm done with EvE guys. The installation/buddy account issues were bad omen enough, but that fact that to continue doing the mission I was on I need stuff that can't be accessed on a trial account irked me. Especially since I lost all that isk for no reason and they gave me no warning the trial was gimped. I didn't even get into the game enough to know if it was gonna hook me or not.

ugh... I dunno, maybe later I'll feel like trying again. The not knowing what I can and can't do bit is a huge point against that, though.
Huh, that didn't happen to me at all. Was this a tutorial mission?
 
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Andromache

EvE online, you don't have the stuff

chatted with the corp a bit tonight. Nice people. I was shocked, and felt like a fat nudist at a silk dress party.
 

Dave

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I think I'm done with EvE guys. The installation/buddy account issues were bad omen enough, but that fact that to continue doing the mission I was on I need stuff that can't be accessed on a trial account irked me. Especially since I lost all that isk for no reason and they gave me no warning the trial was gimped. I didn't even get into the game enough to know if it was gonna hook me or not.

ugh... I dunno, maybe later I'll feel like trying again. The not knowing what I can and can't do bit is a huge point against that, though.
Huh, that didn't happen to me at all. Was this a tutorial mission?[/QUOTE]

It was a mission where he needed a lot of cargo space. So he bought a ship that had it and then found out he needed to train a skill to fly it. So he bought the book and found out that he couldn't train that skill on a trial account. So he got pissed and tried to send someone his 3mil ISK and found you can't send money on a trial account.

All in all it was a bad night for the Mad Mexican. I told him I'd pay for a month but he wouldn't do it.
 

Necronic

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Don't get discouraged so easily. There will be times you run into things that make you really angry, but you just have to push through them. I remember once when I was new I wanted to check out mining, so I went to the market to buy some mining drones. I wasn't paying attention and bough 10 mining drone IIs. Completely bankrupted me.

I would suggest you stick it out just a bit longer, if only through the weekend.

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The big question any new player needs to ask himself is What do you want to do?

In the broadest sense the game can be broken into 3 places:

PvP
PvE
Industry

Within each of these there are many many many subcategories. Lets focus on PvP for right now

PvP subcategories:

Belt Piracy - This is doable on day 1 of an account up to 5 year old characters. The goal is a mixture of money and fun. It's rarely a very profitable trade, and can be incredibly difficult/boring, but from the hardest earth come the sweetest berries. Good pirates make for very good pvpers. Your goal as a pirate is to catch someone ratting or mining in an asteroid belt in low/null sec and kill them. Or get them close enough to death that you can ransom them. You need to learn things like how to use the directional scanner to scan belts, and the best/cheapest fits for pvp ships, as you can expect to die a lot. Most importantly you must learn zen like patience. Finding people you can kill like this isn't easy, so there is a lot of sitting and waiting.

Can-flipping - Some people will call this piracy, I don't. I don't call it griefing though. Can flipping is a form of high sec pvp, where you go to miners, preferably new miners, and steal minerals from their jet can. You then leave these minerals sitting out in your own jetcan (which has 1 unit of ore that is your own) and hope that they will try to take them back. If they do, they count as stealing from you and you can attack them. This is actually remarkably profitable, since many miners will just say screw it and let you have the ore (which can add up) or, if they are dumb enough to attack you you can usually take them into structure pretty fast. Only thing you have to be careful about is them bringing friends. Which many will.

Factional Warfare - Low sec can not be claimed by players alliances, so until recently there has never been much organized pvp in low sec systems. Factional warfare changed that. Love it or hate it, factional warfare allows easy access to many small to medium scale fleet battles in low sec. This can be a great place to learn some of the basics of fleet combat before a move to null sec. That said, factional warfare may be the biggest money sink type of pvp in game. There are few ways to make money doing it, and you will loose a lot of ships. The good news is that you are going to be operating right next to high sec space so its not hard to run back and do some missions to get some cash.

Nullsec/Alliance warfare - I don't know a lot about this, but if there was a "end-game" in EvE, this would it (or one of a couple). Massive fleet battles for entirely player owned territories. Small roaming gangs perpetrating guerilla tactics in enemy territory. Alt spy infiltrators revealing information about enemy's logistics and plans. There is simply too much to mention here. Its big. This is where the big boys play. To them, anything but nullsec is carebear central. The one interesting thing, however, is that while it makes up a large part of the economy of eve (all T2 items come from nullsec/some lowsec), there are not nearly as many players in nullsec as there are in high sec. So many systems exist with no players in them for days on end, while right next door 2 400 man fleets sit, waiting for the grid to load so someone can start firing.
 
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Ferahgo

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If he bought it at an EvE firesale for fractions on the isk...
:p Watcha talking about. Titan only costs 45 billion. Think the only hard part is getting it created.... lol
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

Well, that and having a pilot trained to fly it who's willing to leave his toon sitting in the Titan until it's destroyed since he can't dock it at a station.
 
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Ferahgo

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You can leave a titan, it just sits in space while you are logged off/in another ship. You just keep the titan deep within your alliances sector
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

I was aware that it's possible to exit a titan (or any other ship) outside of a station but it didn't strike me as an ideal thing to do with such a valuable ship.
 
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Ferahgo

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you just put the titan inside a Player Owned Station force field. Noone can enter unless you are a part of the corp/alliance who owns it
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

Ah, that's some very good information to have. I suppose the same goes for motherships as well.
 

Dave

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My POS got destroyed. Probably not the same thing, though.
 
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Catafish

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Belt Piracy - This is doable on day 1 of an account up to 5 year old characters. The goal is a mixture of money and fun. It's rarely a very profitable trade, and can be incredibly difficult/boring, but from the hardest earth come the sweetest berries. Good pirates make for very good pvpers. Your goal as a pirate is to catch someone ratting or mining in an asteroid belt in low/null sec and kill them. Or get them close enough to death that you can ransom them. You need to learn things like how to use the directional scanner to scan belts, and the best/cheapest fits for pvp ships, as you can expect to die a lot. Most importantly you must learn zen like patience. Finding people you can kill like this isn't easy, so there is a lot of sitting and waiting.
This is what I have been doing for the last couple of days , and trying to scan people down is not an easy thing to do, although I do believe that I am getting the hang of it I think I just have to find a less populated area. Most of the the systems that I am flying through have either 6 or 7 people in them or none and at least one or two of those people are pirates. Even with my lack of success is has definitely interesting and fun to be fly all around low sec looking for people to kill / ransom
 

Necronic

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At some point in a fight it becomes clear who the winner will be. If someone is flying a very expensive ship its worth it to them to pay you a ransom to be able to leave. Of course, they could still kill you. Some pirates are fanatical about honoring ransoms. Others...not so much so.

Anways, catafish, its good to see you are doing some of that. The scanner is definitely your friend. I would like to do some small t1 roaming gangs at some point. There's .3 pocket system called gyerzen that I find particularly interesting. Right next to tew.
 
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Catafish

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How would you feel about a random pirate in a rifter coming by and wiping out your competition?
 
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Rubicon

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Ok so, quickest path to being able to kill someone solo, anyone?

Shit hit the fan with Cryptic today, may not be continuing with STO.
 
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Straker

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Train for a Rifter, train your projectile turret/gunnery skills, little navigation and propulsion jamming and you're all set :)

Alright then, I'm skilled up for a Guardian logistics ship. Shall we revisit the plex idea since lowsec mining didn't work out so well?

I think I'll be training to fly the notorious Curse next up. Really looking forward to that one!
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

Ok so, quickest path to being able to kill someone solo, anyone?

Shit hit the fan with Cryptic today, may not be continuing with STO.
What shit would this be? I was interested in giving STO a try eventually.
 

Dave

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EvE online, you don't have the stuff

Train for a Rifter, train your projectile turret/gunnery skills, little navigation and propulsion jamming and you're all set :)

Alright then, I'm skilled up for a Guardian logistics ship. Shall we revisit the plex idea since lowsec mining didn't work out so well?

I think I'll be training to fly the notorious Curse next up. Really looking forward to that one!
Training to get autocannon still takes DAYS to get. You make it sound like it'll happen tomorrow.
 

Dave

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ANYONE IN CORP!!! Send me a PM ASAP, please! My queue is about to be empty and I'm not at home.
 

Dave

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My queue is now empty and I'm losing 8 hours of training. Damn it!
 

Necronic

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I'm still having fun with this, still only going through the military tutorials (part 8 of 10 now).

I think I will buy this game at some point in time
When I exited from STEAM I got an offer which was 19.99 for the game + all (current) expansions which sounds pretty cheap if you're interested. It sure is pretty.

I'm doing that same military tutorial as it was recommended to do that one first.
I'm still horrible confused but I'll get the hang of it. : )[/QUOTE]

Expansions are included in any of the clients. Due to the nature of the game its impossible for them to provide a client to some players with more or less functionality than others. Would totally bone the design.

That said, the 20$ for the full game is, I believe, the standard price (as it includes 1 month game time as well.)

Straker, fucking awesome you got into the guardian. That is mad tits. I'm about a week away from a stealth bomber myself, and just pulled in enough money to buy a couple more HACs. I think at this point we need to start doing low sec gank roams as a group. Put people in frigates and cruisers with one of the older players flying something a bit more substantial (BC+).

What we really need at this point is someone who can fly ewar/ECM. In the fight I had with yall that was the single most disruptive thing yall did to me, when you jammed me, and in pvp its no different. I know Mal just trained up for a Griffin, which is ok, but we really need someone to get into a blackbird (its bigger brother).
 
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