RapeLay "game"

[Troll]

Remind me again, Child porn is illegal because there is a victim, the child, correct? Therefore, what exactly is illegal about animated child porn?

You know the argument. People worry that animated porn featuring underage girls will encourage pedophiles to go out and do it in the real world to real victims.

 

[Null]

Okay, great. No one is arguing that it's not sick. But since it's not being sold here, I don't really see where we have to do anything about it.

 

[Shegokigo]

Remind me again, Child porn is illegal because there is a victim, the child, correct? Therefore, what exactly is illegal about animated child porn?

You know the argument. People worry that animated porn featuring underage girls will encourage pedophiles to go out and do it in the real world to real victims.[/QUOTE]

Well then that still means that the actual act of child porn is the crime.

That's like blaming violent video games for columbine.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

There's plenty in the BDSM world that are into this type of thing. Not in video game form.

The BDSM world/scene is in no way synonymous with rape enthusiasts.

 

[Chazwozel]

Remind me again, Child porn is illegal because there is a victim, the child, correct? Therefore, what exactly is illegal about animated child porn?

You know the argument. People worry that animated porn featuring underage girls will encourage pedophiles to go out and do it in the real world to real victims.[/QUOTE]

I think that's hardly the issue, just as violent video games don't turn you into an axe murderer. Mainstreaming violence, however, does contribute to a desensitization to it.

 

[Troll]

I'm not saying I support that argument, I'm just repeating what I usually hear in these news stories.

 

[makare]

There's plenty in the BDSM world that are into this type of thing. Not in video game form.

The BDSM world/scene is in no way synonymous with rape enthusiasts.[/QUOTE]

Not synonymous no, but rape fantasy would be a subset of SM. Definitely.


Also, I would love to right all the injustices in the world that chap my ass but I am really scared of giving the government, any government, power over the morality and social structure of another country. If change is going to be made it should be made by civilians and by encouraging a change in the populations perceptions on the issue.

 

[Null]

How do you figure that, Chaz? What gives us the right to interfere with something that doesn't involve us at all? There's interfering when it's something that is a threat to our nation or our allies - that's necessary. But we don't have the right to tell them what should excite them any more than they have the right to tell us how we should live.

Mak - their government seems to be okay with it, so that's settled then.

So it's cool that women in Saudi Arabia are beaten by their husbands and treated as second class citizens because it's part of their culture? It's cool that Indian caste systems still exist in many regions and basic human rights are denied certain people because it's their culture? Awesome![/QUOTE]

As I just said, it's not okay, but neither do we have the right to force change about it. We're not Saudi Arabia, so that shit doesn't fly here - but look in any trailer park, and see that it exists. We can say it's not allowable here, but we can't say it's not legal there because it's not our country.

 

[Chazwozel]

Remind me again, Child porn is illegal because there is a victim, the child, correct? Therefore, what exactly is illegal about animated child porn?

You know the argument. People worry that animated porn featuring underage girls will encourage pedophiles to go out and do it in the real world to real victims.[/QUOTE]

Well then that still means that the actual act of child porn is the crime.

That's like blaming violent video games for columbine.[/QUOTE]


Well violent shit did contribute to desensitization of the violence that occurred at Columbine. In a lot of cases, teenagers don't realize the reality of, say, shooting someone means they die, and stay dead and the consequences of that act till after it happens.

 

[Charlie Don't Surf]

There's plenty in the BDSM world that are into this type of thing. Not in video game form.

The BDSM world/scene is in no way synonymous with rape enthusiasts.[/QUOTE]

Not synonymous no, but rape fantasy would be a subset of SM. Definitely.

.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, rape fantasy. But his "not in video game form" kind of unfairly implies BDSM is full of rapists.

 

[Troll]

I think it's fair for a country or countries to enforce basic human rights. This would mean stopping violence against women, but not trying to force a country to alter its sexual preferences for animated porn.

 

[makare]

There's plenty in the BDSM world that are into this type of thing. Not in video game form.

The BDSM world/scene is in no way synonymous with rape enthusiasts.[/QUOTE]

Not synonymous no, but rape fantasy would be a subset of SM. Definitely.

.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, rape fantasy. But his "not in video game form" kind of unfairly implies BDSM is full of rapists.[/QUOTE]

You have a right to your own interpretation but I didnt read that into his statement at all.

 

[Chazwozel]

How do you figure that, Chaz? What gives us the right to interfere with something that doesn't involve us at all? There's interfering when it's something that is a threat to our nation or our allies - that's necessary. But we don't have the right to tell them what should excite them any more than they have the right to tell us how we should live.

Mak - their government seems to be okay with it, so that's settled then.

So it's cool that women in Saudi Arabia are beaten by their husbands and treated as second class citizens because it's part of their culture? It's cool that Indian caste systems still exist in many regions and basic human rights are denied certain people because it's their culture? Awesome![/QUOTE]

As I just said, it's not okay, but neither do we have the right to force change about it. We're not Saudi Arabia, so that shit doesn't fly here - but look in any trailer park, and see that it exists. We can say it's not allowable here, but we can't say it's not legal there because it's not our country.[/QUOTE]

Cool, if I see someone getting mugged I'll just shrug my shoulders and tell myself that it's wrong but not my problem.

 

[bigcountry23]

Cool, if I see someone getting mugged I'll just shrug my shoulders and tell myself that it's wrong but not my problem.

Congratulations, you have just earned the achievement "Stereotypical New Yorker"

 

[ElJuski]

How do you figure that, Chaz? What gives us the right to interfere with something that doesn't involve us at all? There's interfering when it's something that is a threat to our nation or our allies - that's necessary. But we don't have the right to tell them what should excite them any more than they have the right to tell us how we should live.

Mak - their government seems to be okay with it, so that's settled then.

So it's cool that women in Saudi Arabia are beaten by their husbands and treated as second class citizens because it's part of their culture? It's cool that Indian caste systems still exist in many regions and basic human rights are denied certain people because it's their culture? Awesome![/QUOTE]

As I just said, it's not okay, but neither do we have the right to force change about it. We're not Saudi Arabia, so that shit doesn't fly here - but look in any trailer park, and see that it exists. We can say it's not allowable here, but we can't say it's not legal there because it's not our country.[/QUOTE]

Cool, if I see someone getting mugged I'll just shrug my shoulders and tell myself that it's wrong but not my problem.[/QUOTE]

Chaz, why are you talking on an internet forum when you should be preaching / advocating / solving all of the world's moral problems?

Go man, the world needs you and your jet pack!

 

[Chazwozel]

How do you figure that, Chaz? What gives us the right to interfere with something that doesn't involve us at all? There's interfering when it's something that is a threat to our nation or our allies - that's necessary. But we don't have the right to tell them what should excite them any more than they have the right to tell us how we should live.

Mak - their government seems to be okay with it, so that's settled then.

So it's cool that women in Saudi Arabia are beaten by their husbands and treated as second class citizens because it's part of their culture? It's cool that Indian caste systems still exist in many regions and basic human rights are denied certain people because it's their culture? Awesome![/QUOTE]

As I just said, it's not okay, but neither do we have the right to force change about it. We're not Saudi Arabia, so that shit doesn't fly here - but look in any trailer park, and see that it exists. We can say it's not allowable here, but we can't say it's not legal there because it's not our country.[/QUOTE]

Cool, if I see someone getting mugged I'll just shrug my shoulders and tell myself that it's wrong but not my problem.[/QUOTE]

Chaz, why are you talking on an internet forum when you should be preaching / advocating / solving all of the world's moral problems?

Go man, the world needs you and your jet pack![/QUOTE]

What? There are only like 10 human beings I really give a shit about.

 

[Null]

If you think that's the same thing, Chaz, well I guess that's all that can be said about it.

 

[Chazwozel]

If you think that's the same thing, Chaz, well I guess that's all that can be said about it.

No it's not, but the indifference you seem to be showing is. "It's all good, dawg, throwing babies over a cliff is just their culture."

 

[Hansagan]

If you think that's the same thing, Chaz, well I guess that's all that can be said about it.

No it's not, but the indifference you seem to be showing is. "It's all good, dawg, throwing babies over a cliff is just their culture."[/QUOTE]

Ahem.....

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/05/01/babies.tower/

At least they catch the babies, I guess...

 

[Morphine]

I'm usually a "pro-everything" person, mostly because I believe more in education than in prohibition but, this game thing really appalls me, as someone already said, we can't blame violent games for the violent things people do, but let's not kid ourselves, videogames can really help shape up the mind of a kid, they're young and stupid, a game like this turns the rape subject into something "normal" for them, it CANNOT be a good thing. Definetely not.

 

[sixpackshaker]

Okay, great. No one is arguing that it's not sick. But since it's not being sold here, I don't really see where we have to do anything about it.

It is being sold here, hell there are links to Japanese Rape Porn in our NSFW section. And with their porn the females all wear High School Sailor Uniforms.

 

[Chazwozel]

So is the whole submission thing what attracts so many geeks to Japanese women. Cause I've never been a fan of Asian chicks, but it seems a lot of geek male culture revolves around Asian chicks.

 

[North_Ranger]

Secondly, the US has no right to try and regulate another country's porn industry. It's absurd.

This is true. But at the same time it's like saying it's ok that Islamic women are beaten and generally treated like shit in Saudi Arabia just because it's 'the culture'.

Human rights =/= porn industry.

Well, not before someone makes a porno about Amnesty International.

 

[sixpackshaker]

Secondly, the US has no right to try and regulate another country's porn industry. It's absurd.

This is true. But at the same time it's like saying it's ok that Islamic women are beaten and generally treated like shit in Saudi Arabia just because it's 'the culture'.

Human rights =/= porn industry.

Well, not before someone makes a porno about Amnesty International.[/QUOTE]

Torture Porn is quite popular.

 

[Dave]

I had no idea that this type of thing was so prevalent. I didn't think I was that sheltered but holy hell.

 

[Dubyamn]

Wow noone? Really?

MOON PEOPLE!

Anyway, as for the topic at hand: Getting Japan to ban animated child porn isn't ever going to happen. Not sure where I read it, but I remember an article saying that older asian men enjoyed the fact that most asian women whimper and cry during sex because it reminds them of a child.

God I remember this one porn tape my friend got in Japan. It was a gift from his host brother and the brother swore up and down that this was the hottest tape in his possesion.

It was of course 40 minutes of the girl crying during sex.

 

[Chazwozel]

Secondly, the US has no right to try and regulate another country's porn industry. It's absurd.

This is true. But at the same time it's like saying it's ok that Islamic women are beaten and generally treated like shit in Saudi Arabia just because it's 'the culture'.

Human rights =/= porn industry.

Well, not before someone makes a porno about Amnesty International.[/QUOTE]


Alright you got me there.

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Wow noone? Really?

MOON PEOPLE!

Anyway, as for the topic at hand: Getting Japan to ban animated child porn isn't ever going to happen. Not sure where I read it, but I remember an article saying that older asian men enjoyed the fact that most asian women whimper and cry during sex because it reminds them of a child.

God I remember this one porn tape my friend got in Japan. It was a gift from his host brother and the brother swore up and down that this was the hottest tape in his possesion.

It was of course 40 minutes of the girl crying during sex.[/QUOTE]

HOW IS THIS A TURN ON!??!?!?!??!?

 

[Cajungal]

Ew.

 

[Troll]

[/COLOR]

Wow noone? Really?

MOON PEOPLE!

Anyway, as for the topic at hand: Getting Japan to ban animated child porn isn't ever going to happen. Not sure where I read it, but I remember an article saying that older asian men enjoyed the fact that most asian women whimper and cry during sex because it reminds them of a child.

God I remember this one porn tape my friend got in Japan. It was a gift from his host brother and the brother swore up and down that this was the hottest tape in his possesion.

It was of course 40 minutes of the girl crying during sex.

HOW IS THIS A TURN ON!??!?!?!??!?[/QUOTE]

Who the fuck knows? We all know about Rule 34. There are people who will get off on ANYTHING.

 

[Dave]

I see eye to eye with the shark on this one. How can anyone look at this and NOT know it's wrong? How can rape or abuse of little girls EVER be seen as entertainment in a civilized society?

 

[Chazwozel]

[/COLOR]

Wow noone? Really?

MOON PEOPLE!

Anyway, as for the topic at hand: Getting Japan to ban animated child porn isn't ever going to happen. Not sure where I read it, but I remember an article saying that older asian men enjoyed the fact that most asian women whimper and cry during sex because it reminds them of a child.

God I remember this one porn tape my friend got in Japan. It was a gift from his host brother and the brother swore up and down that this was the hottest tape in his possesion.

It was of course 40 minutes of the girl crying during sex.

HOW IS THIS A TURN ON!??!?!?!??!?[/QUOTE]

Who the fuck knows? We all know about Rule 34. There are people who will get off on ANYTHING.[/QUOTE]

Actually this thread reminds me of Death Proof.

 

[Hansagan]

So is the whole submission thing what attracts so many geeks to Japanese women. Cause I've never been a fan of Asian chicks, but it seems a lot of geek male culture revolves around Asian chicks.

I'm married to an asian woman, and I can tell you right now that submission doesn't really enter into it.

Not from her end anyway.

 

[North_Ranger]

Secondly, the US has no right to try and regulate another country's porn industry. It's absurd.

This is true. But at the same time it's like saying it's ok that Islamic women are beaten and generally treated like shit in Saudi Arabia just because it's 'the culture'.

Human rights =/= porn industry.

Well, not before someone makes a porno about Amnesty International.[/QUOTE]


Alright you got me there.[/QUOTE]

 

[Chazwozel]

So is the whole submission thing what attracts so many geeks to Japanese women. Cause I've never been a fan of Asian chicks, but it seems a lot of geek male culture revolves around Asian chicks.

I'm married to an asian woman, and I can tell you right now that submission doesn't really enter into it.

Not from her end anyway.[/QUOTE]


Well my question is why do so many geeks go gaga for Asian women?

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Secondly, the US has no right to try and regulate another country's porn industry. It's absurd.

This is true. But at the same time it's like saying it's ok that Islamic women are beaten and generally treated like shit in Saudi Arabia just because it's 'the culture'.

Human rights =/= porn industry.

Well, not before someone makes a porno about Amnesty International.[/QUOTE]


Alright you got me there.[/QUOTE]

[/QUOTE]

They caught the shark at the end of Jaws too, my friend. But there were sequels...

 

[Troll]

So is the whole submission thing what attracts so many geeks to Japanese women. Cause I've never been a fan of Asian chicks, but it seems a lot of geek male culture revolves around Asian chicks.

I'm married to an asian woman, and I can tell you right now that submission doesn't really enter into it.

Not from her end anyway.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but did you have an asian fetish before meeting her? Your relationship (you know, a healthy one) isn't the same as what's being described when we talk about geeky obsession over asian women.