A father of a dead marine has to pay Fred Phelps??

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Chazwozel

Covar;364074][QUOTE=A Troll said:
Okay, quiz time! Which of the following rights is NOT mentioned in the Bill of Rights?

A) Freedom of speech.
B) Protection from illegal search and seizure.
C) Freedom of religion.
D) Right to privacy.

The answer will explain why the court ruled the way it did.
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Man don't you pay attention to other threads? The constitution was written 200 years ago by a bunch of dead dudes. Who the fuck cares what it says and what their intentions for it were. 200 years ago we were putting leeches on people not protesting at funerals![/QUOTE]


YEAH! I FUCKING LOVE REPUBLICAN BLACK AND WHITE LOGIC! UGH! MY DICK IS SO HARD NOW!
 
Troll

Troll

Chazwozel;364209][QUOTE=Covar;364074][QUOTE=A Troll said:
Okay, quiz time! Which of the following rights is NOT mentioned in the Bill of Rights?

A) Freedom of speech.
B) Protection from illegal search and seizure.
C) Freedom of religion.
D) Right to privacy.

The answer will explain why the court ruled the way it did.
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Man don't you pay attention to other threads? The constitution was written 200 years ago by a bunch of dead dudes. Who the fuck cares what it says and what their intentions for it were. 200 years ago we were putting leeches on people not protesting at funerals![/QUOTE]


YEAH! I FUCKING LOVE REPUBLICAN BLACK AND WHITE LOGIC! UGH! MY DICK IS SO HARD NOW![/QUOTE]

Wow, I didn't know Karl Rove posted here.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

@Li3n;364917][QUOTE=TeKeo said:
It's not exactly netting them money, it's getting their legal fees paid. It's fairly standard, if particularly unpalatable in this case.
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I consider somene else paying for me as getting money... but whatever.[/QUOTE]

Not to mention, since the lawyer is part of the family, they weren't really paying anyway. It's just what he would've charged.
 
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Chibibar

I am for free speech on many levels, but I still believe what WBC is doing is beyond free speech. What is a Neo-Nazi protest on a dead Jew's grave? Same situation different people. I believe this does fall pretty close to hate crime levels.
 
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Chibibar

TeKeo;365345][QUOTE=Chibibar said:
I am for free speech on many levels, but I still believe what WBC is doing is beyond free speech. What is a Neo-Nazi protest on a dead Jew's grave? Same situation different people. I believe this does fall pretty close to hate crime levels.
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Already been basically done, and decided as protected by free speech and free assembly.[/QUOTE]

Yea, but if they decide to march in full German Nazi uniform (swastika and all) I believe it would be hate crime. Many country already ban buying/sell of Nazi material (i.e. hate crime) So the first amendment won't protect them if they wore that stuff (the wiki said that they didn't)
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Chibibar;365358][QUOTE=TeKeo;365345][QUOTE=Chibibar said:
I am for free speech on many levels, but I still believe what WBC is doing is beyond free speech. What is a Neo-Nazi protest on a dead Jew's grave? Same situation different people. I believe this does fall pretty close to hate crime levels.
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Already been basically done, and decided as protected by free speech and free assembly.[/QUOTE]

Yea, but if they decide to march in full German Nazi uniform (swastika and all) I believe it would be hate crime. Many country already ban buying/sell of Nazi material (i.e. hate crime) So the first amendment won't protect them if they wore that stuff (the wiki said that they didn't)[/QUOTE]

You can't ban symbols in the US. This is why it's still "okay" to fly/display the Confederate flag in some states, why some buildings that predate WWII have swastikas built into their architecture still, and why the KKK are allowed to march. It's part of our First Amendment.
 
SpecialKO

SpecialKO

AshburnerX;365375][QUOTE=Chibibar;365358][QUOTE=TeKeo;365345][QUOTE=Chibibar said:
I am for free speech on many levels, but I still believe what WBC is doing is beyond free speech. What is a Neo-Nazi protest on a dead Jew's grave? Same situation different people. I believe this does fall pretty close to hate crime levels.
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Already been basically done, and decided as protected by free speech and free assembly.[/QUOTE]

Yea, but if they decide to march in full German Nazi uniform (swastika and all) I believe it would be hate crime. Many country already ban buying/sell of Nazi material (i.e. hate crime) So the first amendment won't protect them if they wore that stuff (the wiki said that they didn't)[/QUOTE]

You can't ban symbols in the US. This is why it's still "okay" to fly/display the Confederate flag in some states, why some buildings that predate WWII have swastikas built into their architecture still, and why the KKK are allowed to march. It's part of our First Amendment.[/QUOTE]


Precisely. It's why Mein Kampf is fully legal for purchase/borrowing at any bookstore/library in the US, unlike many other countries.
 
Covar

Covar

TeKeo;365378][QUOTE=AshburnerX;365375][QUOTE=Chibibar;365358][QUOTE=TeKeo;365345][QUOTE=Chibibar said:
I am for free speech on many levels, but I still believe what WBC is doing is beyond free speech. What is a Neo-Nazi protest on a dead Jew's grave? Same situation different people. I believe this does fall pretty close to hate crime levels.
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Already been basically done, and decided as protected by free speech and free assembly.[/QUOTE]

Yea, but if they decide to march in full German Nazi uniform (swastika and all) I believe it would be hate crime. Many country already ban buying/sell of Nazi material (i.e. hate crime) So the first amendment won't protect them if they wore that stuff (the wiki said that they didn't)[/QUOTE]

You can't ban symbols in the US. This is why it's still "okay" to fly/display the Confederate flag in some states, why some buildings that predate WWII have swastikas built into their architecture still, and why the KKK are allowed to march. It's part of our First Amendment.[/QUOTE]


Precisely. It's why Mein Kampf is fully legal for purchase/borrowing at any bookstore/library in the US, unlike many other countries.[/QUOTE]

That's because of that Republican Black and White logic that makes me so hard.
 
SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Covar said:
That's because of that Republican Black and White logic that makes me so hard.
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:shocked: Ooookay...or it could just be that free speech is protected in the US to a greater degree than other countries, much as various political groups of both left/right persuasion would prefer differently.
 
sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Chazwozel;365866][QUOTE=sixpackshaker said:
Protected free speech especially extends over unpopular speech.
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What the Phelps clan does is less so free speech and more so hate-crime and riot instigation, which are not legal.[/QUOTE]

They are repugnant, but legal. Yes, I've wanted to smack them in the face from time to time. But they have the right in this nation to say what they want.

In a way it is good to know what your enemies are thinking.
 
Espy

Espy

TeKeo;365626][QUOTE=Covar said:
That's because of that Republican Black and White logic that makes me so hard.
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:shocked: Ooookay...or it could just be that free speech is protected in the US to a greater degree than other countries, much as various political groups of both left/right persuasion would prefer differently.[/QUOTE]

Psssst... I think he's making a play on chaz's post awhile back.
 
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Chazwozel

Espy;365920][QUOTE=TeKeo;365626][QUOTE=Covar said:
That's because of that Republican Black and White logic that makes me so hard.
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:shocked: Ooookay...or it could just be that free speech is protected in the US to a greater degree than other countries, much as various political groups of both left/right persuasion would prefer differently.[/QUOTE]

Psssst... I think he's making a play on chaz's post awhile back.[/QUOTE]

He is. And like a typical staunch right winger, he still doesn't understand that the world doesn't work in absolutes.
 
SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Espy;365920][QUOTE=TeKeo;365626][QUOTE=Covar said:
That's because of that Republican Black and White logic that makes me so hard.
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:shocked: Ooookay...or it could just be that free speech is protected in the US to a greater degree than other countries, much as various political groups of both left/right persuasion would prefer differently.[/QUOTE]

Psssst... I think he's making a play on chaz's post awhile back.[/QUOTE]

Ah, missed that one. I blame the lack of shopped shark pics.
 
Officer_Charon

Officer_Charon

The standard response to Fred Phelps & Co has been best put forth by the Patriot Guard, I think. Do not engage, do not antagonize, do no exacerbate... merely stand as a shield of Stars and Stripes between their group and the grieving family.

You have the right to a reasonable expectation of privacy in your own home, so long as you keep your windows closed. You have it in your yard, so long as you have a fence. You do not have it in a public cemetery. However, the disruption of a funeral DIRECTLY is considered an invasion of privacy. Which is why the WBC stands by about 500 feet away, chanting and picketing. The standard internet doctrine of not feeding the trolls applies here.

If you refuse to acknowledge them, no matter how badly you want to, you deny them power of you and your loved ones.

That being said, the idea of Ceej hurling bottles of urine appeals to me... *chuckles*
 
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