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so .. at least we know we have LOTS of offshore oil and we don't have to be so dependant on foreign oil anymore? yyyyyaaaaaay??
 
so .. at least we know we have LOTS of offshore oil and we don't have to be so dependant on foreign oil anymore? yyyyyaaaaaay??
I'm still thinking the Russians or Chinese are secretly working on the tech to just slurp up all that spilled oil and separate it into a usable form. It's in international waters, so whoever can get it, has it.
 
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Chazwozel

Russians or Chinese huh? Not the Japanese? Swedish?
The Russians and/or Chinese would do it as a big FUCK YOU to us and the rest of the "West".[/QUOTE]

Q: do you still do your nuclear bomb drills?[/QUOTE]

A: Good luck finding anyone under the age of 40 who knows what a fallout shelter is.[/QUOTE]

29 here, sir. I know what a fallout shelter is and where a local one in my community is. Aww yeah, duck and cover bitches.
 
Russians or Chinese huh? Not the Japanese? Swedish?
The Russians and/or Chinese would do it as a big FUCK YOU to us and the rest of the "West".[/QUOTE]

Q: do you still do your nuclear bomb drills?[/QUOTE]

A: Good luck finding anyone under the age of 40 who knows what a fallout shelter is.[/QUOTE]
DarkAudit, you're talking to a group of people who have played Fallout and Fallout 2. Suggesting people in this group, no matter what age, wouldn't know what a fallout shelter is comes across a little silly.
 
Russians or Chinese huh? Not the Japanese? Swedish?
The Russians and/or Chinese would do it as a big FUCK YOU to us and the rest of the "West".[/QUOTE]

Q: do you still do your nuclear bomb drills?[/QUOTE]

A: Good luck finding anyone under the age of 40 who knows what a fallout shelter is.[/QUOTE]
DarkAudit, you're talking to a group of people who have played Fallout and Fallout 2. Suggesting people in this group, no matter what age, wouldn't know what a fallout shelter is comes across a little silly.[/QUOTE]

Come on, you've seen it yourself in IRC. It's amazing what these people have never heard of.
 

Necronic

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My attititude is starting to change pretty rapidly. This is such a nightmare scenario catastrophe. The failure here wasn't the equipment, but the people, and I don't see any way you can remove them from the equation. At my work we have something called a "risk matrix", where you plot how bad the damage of a failure is vs how likely the failure would be. Something like this would have a very very low risk of failure, however the potential damage would be at or near the top of the chart. I believe that when something has that high potential damage we simply don't do it, regardless of the risk, because failing once is catastrophic.

I'm just really starting to freak out about what's happening down there. The long term environmental effects are worse than Bhopal and Chernobyl combined. I know that may seem ridiculous but you have to appreciate that those were land disasters, this is different. BP pissed in the pool, and there is absolutely no way to remove a lot of what they did. The whole 'dispersant' concept just shows how ineffective our measures are, because all that did was an 'out of sight out of mind' magic trick. That benzene is still there.

And that's the one I am most worried about. Benzene. shudder. Screw the little duckies covered in brown sludge (ok that's bad too). Benzene is incredibly toxic, and I am really concerned that we have permanently increased the PPM of benzene in the oceans. If it was all on the surface that would be fine. Benzene and all the other dangerous hydrocarbons would evaporate and you would just have the heavy paraphins/olephins that aren't nearly as toxic and are much easier to capture. But this plume means that the benzene is trapped under hundreds to thousands of feet of water where it can't escape. Sure, eventually it will get to the top and leave. Hopefully. Maybe after a century.

shudder.
 
Kill the more complex organisms, and then you get mass reproduction of simpler organisms. In some parts of the Pacific they've been running into masses of jellyfish/algae organisms pushing a burning vapor into the atmosphere above the water. Fun times.
 
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JONJONAUG

New plan: Pray the oil away

CNN said:
(CNN) -- While cleanup crews and technical teams continue efforts to stop crude gushing into the Gulf of Mexico, Louisiana lawmakers are proposing a different approach: prayer.

State senators designated Sunday as a day for citizens to ask for God's help dealing with the oil disaster.

"Thus far efforts made by mortals to try to solve the crisis have been to no avail," state Sen. Robert Adley said in a statement released after last week's unanimous vote for the day of prayer. "It is clearly time for a miracle for us."

The resolution names Sunday as a statewide day of prayer in Louisiana and calls on people of all religions throughout the Gulf Coast "to pray for an end to this environmental emergency, sparing us all from the destruction of both culture and livelihood."
 
New plan: Pray the oil away

CNN said:
(CNN) -- While cleanup crews and technical teams continue efforts to stop crude gushing into the Gulf of Mexico, Louisiana lawmakers are proposing a different approach: prayer.

State senators designated Sunday as a day for citizens to ask for God's help dealing with the oil disaster.

"Thus far efforts made by mortals to try to solve the crisis have been to no avail," state Sen. Robert Adley said in a statement released after last week's unanimous vote for the day of prayer. "It is clearly time for a miracle for us."

The resolution names Sunday as a statewide day of prayer in Louisiana and calls on people of all religions throughout the Gulf Coast "to pray for an end to this environmental emergency, sparing us all from the destruction of both culture and livelihood."

I thought this was an onion article until I saw it on CNN and FoxNews and saw Sarah Palin championing the idea on Twitter.

What the fuck.
 
New plan: Pray the oil away

CNN said:
(CNN) -- While cleanup crews and technical teams continue efforts to stop crude gushing into the Gulf of Mexico, Louisiana lawmakers are proposing a different approach: prayer.

State senators designated Sunday as a day for citizens to ask for God's help dealing with the oil disaster.

"Thus far efforts made by mortals to try to solve the crisis have been to no avail," state Sen. Robert Adley said in a statement released after last week's unanimous vote for the day of prayer. "It is clearly time for a miracle for us."

The resolution names Sunday as a statewide day of prayer in Louisiana and calls on people of all religions throughout the Gulf Coast "to pray for an end to this environmental emergency, sparing us all from the destruction of both culture and livelihood."
This is actually a really good idea.
 
Meh, I have no problem with the state asking people of all religions to join together in prayer, it sounds about as effective as anything else they have going on plus it's fun to watch those intolerant of religion screech up a storm.
 
Yes! I mean, instead of keeping trying, let's leave it on God's hands! It certainly is less tiring.

EDIT: I have no problem with prayer... My problem is with the 'it's time for a miracle' thing. It feels like they want to rely on prayer, which means doing less actual, palpable things.
 
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