Hmm. I do support the government to an extent. AZ law for example, I don't support. I think it is a bad idea (see that thread if that is still around) Generally I have no problem with police and the rules they operate within in. I am more about the establish lawful rules and following them. I don't agree with the unjust laws (like AZ laws) or laws that suppress human rights (like the lack of same sex marriage and such)
Not even remotely what I'm talking about. But going further would just be rehashing a debate we both agreed to put aside because we couldn't agree on even the most basic things.
Sounds interesting, but alas, these people do not follow normal rules. I mean they are recruiting people who are financially stable and do crazy things. I mean we have read articles that people around the world are following their dogma (faith, whatever you call it, I can't think of the right words) people abandoning all their worldly goods and join them ready to cause terror.
Don't think that the people they recruit are the same in Iraq and America.
In America the people they recruit are the financially stable people. In Iraq the people they recruit are Mercenaries who sign up for the paycheck because that is literally the only job they can find in Iraq and young men who don't see any future in trying to secure a real job.
They don't sign up for the adventure or the glory, fuck they don't even sign up the glory of Allah. They sign up because a life in the insurgency means money and protection for them and their family.
This police action/war (whatever you want to call it) is not like any other type of fight the world has to fight against. It is not a typical one where you can defeat/negotiate with the leaders and they will just drop their arms and have peace.
Are you kidding? Cause you're certainly talking out of your ass. Iraq is a bog standard Insurgency no different than the fight in Colombia or the fight with the Tamal Tigers in Africa. Insurgencies never end when you focus on killing the leaders they only end when people can drop their arms and go earn a living.
I am sure if the economy is stronger, then they will have more money to access better weapons and bombs.
Muslims aren't subhuman monsters who fight for the shits and giggles. They're people who want nothing more than to make money, find a companion and raise a family and they fight because they think those are in danger from outside forces.
You give them money and those who are already rich will spend that money on making more money while those who didn't have any before will spend it on things they need or things they like.
They aren't going to hand over half of their wages so that their country can be turned back into a warzone.
of course it doesn't help that there are two to three factions that has been at each other's throat for over 2000 years.
Actually during times of prosperity and plenty Shites and Sunnis get along pretty well. It's only during times of crazy leaders and chaos that the groups started tearing at each other. Settle things down and you'll have people mixing the neighborhoods again like they did in pre war Iraq.
