I was ruined for all other anime shows by watching Cowboy Bebop first. There are only a few series I have seen that are in the same vicinity, but none that are close to it.
I guess Masashi read Harry Potter
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Iaculus
I never said it couldn't be enjoyed outside that - as I mentioned above, shonen tends to have the most multiple-demographic appeal of the four categories of manga. I was just pointing out that its primary target audience is not actually all that far removed from the children that 4Kids and company attempted to market to with their messy chop-jobs.
You're entitled to your own opinion, no matter how wrong it might be.
Which is ironic, because I distinctly remember them showing a gun off in an first season episode here in the states. It was an episode about Officer Jenny training Growliths into Police Dogs/Pokemon, and the fake burglar guy had a gun which scared off Pikachu.
And I suddenly remember why I'm still a virgin...
Also, Ronin Warriors > Saint Seiya.
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CAMUS DISAGREEES!!
EJECUCIOOON............ AURORA!!!!!
(Sorry, those I watched in Spanish all through my childhood, I think it's "Aurora Execution" in English, but I don't know, they translate very weirdly sometimes, I wouldn't be surprised if it was "MAGICAL ICE ATTACK!!" or something in the english dub)
EJECUCIOOON............ AURORA!!!!!
(Sorry, those I watched in Spanish all through my childhood, I think it's "Aurora Execution" in English, but I don't know, they translate very weirdly sometimes, I wouldn't be surprised if it was "MAGICAL ICE ATTACK!!" or something in the english dub)
I never said it couldn't be enjoyed outside that - as I mentioned above, shonen tends to have the most multiple-demographic appeal of the four categories of manga. I was just pointing out that its primary target audience is not actually all that far removed from the children that 4Kids and company attempted to market to with their messy chop-jobs.[/QUOTE]
No worries there, sir, I was agreeing with you.
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Also, I always got a laugh when my younger brother watched Yu-Gi-Oh, and the security dudes just pointed their fingers like guns or had walkie-talkies in them.
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OH! I also remember the "swimsuits" they put on Ryoko and Ayeka in the Tenchi Universe series on Cartoon Network. Basically it was a thin overlay of color on the character that didn't really block anything at all (the didn't draw the 'ginas and you could still see nipples). Hilarious.
Ryo counter attacks!CAMUS DISAGREEES!!
EJECUCIOOON............ AURORA!!!!!
Saint Seiya only had like half a season here in the US. It failed for the same reason that the first Gundam series did: They played an old-school cartoon during a time when people who might actually like it are still at work/school. Had they put it on Adult Swim, it would have fared better.
Also, the into sucked.
Yeah, I can still remember waking up earlier than I needed to on weekdays to watch Ronin Warriors. I've got a couple of the toys around here somewhere...
Saint Seiya was a fucking cultural phenomenon down here in the mid 90s. Seriously, people fought over the action figures at supermarkets and shit. We all watched it religiously as kids, even lots of girls.
And it wasn't censored... let me see if I can find a clip I'm thinking of to illustrate how much it was NOT censored.
There we go... watch from 6:00 to around 6:35. That's a looot of blood.
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(funny thing about that attack with the fingers penetrating the sternum... It was Scorpio's final and most powerful "scarlet needle" attack, Antares, named after the biggest star in the Scorpio constellation..... but there's also a chain of bakeries where I lived called "Antares"... so, naturally, every time we pass one someone screams "ANTARES!" and pokes you, hard, in the sternum. I did it once so hard to a buddy of mine that was driving that he had to pull over to writhe in pain)
And it wasn't censored... let me see if I can find a clip I'm thinking of to illustrate how much it was NOT censored.
There we go... watch from 6:00 to around 6:35. That's a looot of blood.
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(funny thing about that attack with the fingers penetrating the sternum... It was Scorpio's final and most powerful "scarlet needle" attack, Antares, named after the biggest star in the Scorpio constellation..... but there's also a chain of bakeries where I lived called "Antares"... so, naturally, every time we pass one someone screams "ANTARES!" and pokes you, hard, in the sternum. I did it once so hard to a buddy of mine that was driving that he had to pull over to writhe in pain)
Oddly enough, I had a Ronin Warriors baseball cap... like 5 years before I had ever seen the show. It was crazy.
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Soliloquy
Ditto. I haven't been trying too hard, honestly, but I haven't found anything that's satisfied my tastes as much as Bebop.
FMA:Brotherhood > Samurai Shamploo > GitS:SC > Black Lagoon > Cowboy Bebop
If only it would catch on more in the US.Tokusatsu > anime
Tonkatsu?
True, but I'd love to see a TRUE American Tokusatsu series. Right now, we're just splicing in footage from Japanese shows, over top of American produced drama. Why not just do the entire show in America and then export it to Japan?
I've had that before, it's delicious.
Tonkatsu?
I've had that before, it's delicious.[/QUOTE]
Tonkatsu?
It really is.
Toku ^
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Soliloquy
Here's why I think Bebop is considered so great by so many:
1) It has very few of the features that turn most people off of anime: Annoying screechy voices, sudden use of chibi character designs and weird faces to emphasize that something going on is "funny," stock gags that barely humorous to begin with, horrible English dubbing that forces you to watch using subtitles, etc.
2) It has slick, fast-paced, grooving style in which stuff actually happens, instead of filling the episodes with people preparing to do stuff, talking about how they're going to do stuff, and reacting to stuff that's been done.
3) Some of the best animation ever in a TV series.
4) It touches on a number of philisophical and sociological issues, but never dwells on them -- it leaves the dwelling up to the viewer.
5) Legitimate tension, because the characters occasionally succeed, but fain more often than not.
6) Arguably the best soundtrack for any TV show, live action or animated, ever.
7) Spike Spiegel
8) Motherf*cking Spike Spiegel
9) SPIKE SPIEGAL GODDAMN IT!
So yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of other animes with better premises, more engaging overarching storylines, and possibly even better characters, but I think it's these qualities that make Bebop so popular in the eyes of many -- especially in the eyes of people who usually can't stand Anime.
Also, I'm not saying that Bebop is the only anime that has each of these qualities. It just combines them so well.
1) It has very few of the features that turn most people off of anime: Annoying screechy voices, sudden use of chibi character designs and weird faces to emphasize that something going on is "funny," stock gags that barely humorous to begin with, horrible English dubbing that forces you to watch using subtitles, etc.
2) It has slick, fast-paced, grooving style in which stuff actually happens, instead of filling the episodes with people preparing to do stuff, talking about how they're going to do stuff, and reacting to stuff that's been done.
3) Some of the best animation ever in a TV series.
4) It touches on a number of philisophical and sociological issues, but never dwells on them -- it leaves the dwelling up to the viewer.
5) Legitimate tension, because the characters occasionally succeed, but fain more often than not.
6) Arguably the best soundtrack for any TV show, live action or animated, ever.
7) Spike Spiegel
8) Motherf*cking Spike Spiegel
9) SPIKE SPIEGAL GODDAMN IT!
So yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of other animes with better premises, more engaging overarching storylines, and possibly even better characters, but I think it's these qualities that make Bebop so popular in the eyes of many -- especially in the eyes of people who usually can't stand Anime.
Also, I'm not saying that Bebop is the only anime that has each of these qualities. It just combines them so well.
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Why guilty? I like it for the same reasons I like Naruto. It has a well-developed mythology that feels well fleshed out and large. The character designs are imaginative. I don't feel guilty at all about liking it. Hollow Ichigo in particular (the recent one that manifested against Ulquiorra) was a really nice design.
I think part of Bleach's problem is all the filler arcs since it was running pretty neck-in-neck with the manga releases. Without those it seemed a little more solid.
I think part of Bleach's problem is all the filler arcs since it was running pretty neck-in-neck with the manga releases. Without those it seemed a little more solid.[/QUOTE]
Oh I'm not even considering that garbage, it clearly doesn't count.
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my guilty please is finding shoujo series to watch...i try to avoid the never ending series like bleach/naruto/one piece though i did read hajime no ippo for a while.
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