Fremont, Nebraska seceding from state and joining Arizona.

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Dave

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Fremont OKs immigrant ordinance - Omaha.com

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Fremont OKs Immigrant Ordinance

Basically what they did was pass a law - 57% to 43% - that makes it illegal to:


  1. Hire an illegal immigrant.
  2. Rent or lease property to an illegal immigrant.
On the surface I can see this, but it goes deeper than that. In the statute itself you get these gems.


  1. If you are found to have hired an illegal immigrant, you lose your business license.
  2. If you rent or lease to an illegal immigrant you can be charged with harboring a fugitive.
  3. Each person over the age of 18 who is living in a rented or leased house/apartment must purchase an occupancy license from the city.
Why are there so many Hispanics in this little town of 25,000? Meat packing plants. Get rid of the Hispanics and they won't find enough people to fill the jobs left vacant. And even if they do they won't work worth a shit or they'll expect to be paid more because of the Union.

I see what it is they are trying to do as illegal immigration is a big problem. But the way it's worded is a waste of time, money and effort.
 
sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I am against these Gestapo sounding tactics. But there has been no Immigration Reform since Reagan opened the flood gates with amnesty some 25 years ago.
 
Dave

Dave

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It'll get struck down in court fairly quickly, which means all of the money & effort they put into it will be wasted.
 
drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Heard about this on the radio this morning. Like AZ, I think folks are trying to push the immigration issue in everyone's face until something is done Federally about it. OR they could be a bunch of kooks.
 
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Chibibar

dr_awkward said:
Heard about this on the radio this morning. Like AZ, I think folks are trying to push the immigration issue in everyone's face until something is done Federally about it. OR they could be a bunch of kooks.
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I beginning to think this is the new tactic of the state level. They probably know that many of these laws will get struck down when it reaches the Supreme Court. It just letting the Federal level know that the state is having enough issue and Federal government should step in and do something about it.
 
Krisken

Krisken

dr_awkward said:
Like AZ, I think folks are trying to push the immigration issue in everyone's face until something is done Federally about it. OR they could be a bunch of kooks.
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Yeah, the second option is the most likely. If it was the first one, someone would say it.
 
Covar

Covar

Wow they're going to make it illegal to hire illegals? How will those who aren't supposed to be in our country get jobs here?
 
J

Jonzac

The steps they took to punish companies who actually hire the illegals is the most important piece of that legislation and until the Federal law places enough pain on companies that do hire illegals this problem will never go away...

I think most folks who are here illegally work hard and would make good citizens...but there is a FUCKING PROCESS to accomplish that and you disrespect our laws and country when you decide you are more important. THAT is something I want corrected...I want them to work here LEGALLY and that process of vetting applicants needs improved.

BUT when that happens you better not give me the same shit that Mexicans pulled in So Cal about flying the American Flag over the FUCKING MEXICAN flag on Cinco de Mayo...Become a citizen and then DEFEND AND PROTECT THIS COUNTRY OR DON"T BECOME A CITIZEN AT ALL!
 
Rob King

Rob King

Jonzac said:
I think most folks who are here illegally work hard and would make good citizens...but there is a FUCKING PROCESS to accomplish that and you disrespect our laws and country when you decide you are more important. THAT is something I want corrected...I want them to work here LEGALLY and that process of vetting applicants needs improved.
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I've always interpreted that as a very American attitude. Or at least, a very Gen-X American attitude.
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Rob King;403358][QUOTE=Jonzac said:
I think most folks who are here illegally work hard and would make good citizens...but there is a FUCKING PROCESS to accomplish that and you disrespect our laws and country when you decide you are more important. THAT is something I want corrected...I want them to work here LEGALLY and that process of vetting applicants needs improved.
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I've always interpreted that as a very American attitude. Or at least, a very Gen-X American attitude.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but you see... you have to become an American before your allowed to have it. It's just the principle of the thing! :biggrin:
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Jonzac said:
The steps they took to punish companies who actually hire the illegals is the most important piece of that legislation and until the Federal law places enough pain on companies that do hire illegals this problem will never go away...

I think most folks who are here illegally work hard and would make good citizens...but there is a FUCKING PROCESS to accomplish that and you disrespect our laws and country when you decide you are more important. THAT is something I want corrected...I want them to work here LEGALLY and that process of vetting applicants needs improved.

BUT when that happens you better not give me the same shit that Mexicans pulled in So Cal about flying the American Flag over the FUCKING MEXICAN flag on Cinco de Mayo...Become a citizen and then DEFEND AND PROTECT THIS COUNTRY OR DON"T BECOME A CITIZEN AT ALL!
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You can sign up for Selective Service (draft) and join the military without being a citizen.


As for the topic:

There was immigration reform in 1996.

The occupancy license is just to jack more money out of the city's residents; nothing to do with immigration.
 
Necronic

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Rob King;403358][QUOTE=Jonzac said:
I think most folks who are here illegally work hard and would make good citizens...but there is a FUCKING PROCESS to accomplish that and you disrespect our laws and country when you decide you are more important. THAT is something I want corrected...I want them to work here LEGALLY and that process of vetting applicants needs improved.
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I've always interpreted that as a very American attitude. Or at least, a very Gen-X American attitude.[/QUOTE]

....BUH?

America has some of the most lenient immigration laws in the first world. Canada's may be moreso, but compared to Europe we are damn near an open border. This is not to say its easy to get citizenship in this country as a skilled worker, but it isn't impossible.

With regards to the law itself I can't say I like the statement on renting to illegals. That puts an unfair amount of burden on the landlord and may also encourage slum lord conditions in places that choose to break the law and rent to illegals. Never creating a lease and if the cops find out then you say you never knew they were there, all the while accepting exhorbitantly high rent rates and not doing repairs as needed. You also may just end up massively increasing the homeless population. Neither of these are good.

The other part of the law, which targets companies that hire illegals, is in my opinion fantastic. I do not think that ICE should be spending any of its time or energy targeting the illegals themselves. There are too many of them, they are too diluted and hard to catch, and the punishments can't (and shouldn't be) strong enough to dissuade the illegal status.

Targeting companies, on the other hand, allows you to seriously threaten someone with a large amount of money and severely discourage them from continuing in this act. When Obama took office he had stated that this was going to be the policy/directive change he was handing down to ICE, and within a short period of time already nailed at least one company who was greviously breaking this law.
 
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