Tiny bit of Batman movie news

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phil

phil

So the title of the 3rd Christopher Nolan Batman movie is aparently going to be The Dark Knight Rises.

Also, no 3-D!

source: Batman 3 gets a title, nixes 3-D and rules out the expected villain | Blastr


Also, villains that have been ruled out include The Riddler (booooo) and Mr. Freeze (kinda boo but for the best). Honestly I would have loved to see The Riddler. I think, done right, he could have been just as misleading and cool as The Joker was. Mr. Freeze is a badass, but honestly he's just too out there to really be taken seriously. I'm thinking, like the guy who wrote the article is guessing, that Two-Face isn't really dead. I could see him coming back and being the main bad guy. I don't remember them outright saying he was dead, only that they couldn't let people know what he had become.




I don't know who else I'd want to see as the villain. Scarecrow is still alive, so he could do something. Deadshot could be cool, but I feel he's a bit too strait forward of a villain to follow up The Joker. Catwoman might be a good choice as Salina could come in as a new love interest for Bruce while Catwoman keeps one step ahead of Batman. I think Poison Ivy's shtick might be a bit too goofy for more serious tones that the movies have been using. Mad Hatter too, really. It's hard pick a good one, really.


Oh well, interesting development I guess!


who do you want to see in the new movie?
 
Nile

Nile

Hm... Bane, Hush, or Catwoman would be my bet. Although I would just prefer that they never put Bane in a movie ever, ever again.

I'm going to stay with Two-Face being dead, though. Wasn't there an interview or something that confirmed it? -google-
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I honestly suspect we're going to see 2 or more villains during the course of the next movie, some of which will be cameos. Here's my picks for showing up:

- Black Mask could work as the mastermind, sending folks after Bats while he tries to reestablish an organized crime foothold in Gotham. Might be a good way to sneak in Rupert Thorne from the animated cartoon from the 90's.
- Hush works, but really... what's the point? Batman has already been discredited in this series, so he'd only be attack Bruce.
- Penguin would make a great cameo as an informant or just someone Bats busts in the opening, but he doesn't have the staying power for the main villain.
- Catwoman is in a similar boat: She's unlikely to be able to pull a scheme big enough to justify any real conflict between her and Batman, but she'd make a great B-plot using the romance between Selena Kyle and Bruce Wayne.
- Bane could potentially work as the main villain, but only if they actually portray him as intelligent for once. He'd need someone to help with the B-plot though.
- Killer Croc would be AWESOME: A cannibalistic serial killer on the loose, while Batman is also trying to catch Catwoman? What's not to love?
- The Mad Hatter would work too, but only if they play up his more recent incarnations which are full on pedophile/murderers.
- Mr. Zsasz would make a great henchmen or lieutenant. He could work in a manner similar to Killer Croc.
- The Ventriloquist would be another great opening foe, but only if they really play up the insanity and don't make Scarface look ridiculous.

However... looking over the previous two Batman movies, what would I really like to see? A Gotham Central movie.
 
SpecialKO

SpecialKO

AshburnerX said:
- Black Mask could work as the mastermind, sending folks after Bats while he tries to reestablish an organized crime foothold in Gotham. Might be a good way to sneak in Rupert Thorne from the animated cartoon from the 90's.
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Done right, Black Mask could be pretty awesome. Crazy, but also a horrifyingly intelligent and machiavellian crime lord.

- Bane could potentially work as the main villain, but only if they actually portray him as intelligent for once.
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That's a real big if, only because Hollywood is not so fond of the intelligent muscleheads. Plus, you run the risk of half the movie being about Batman fighting his addiction to the Venom drug.

- Mr. Zsasz would make a great henchmen or lieutenant. He could work in a manner similar to Killer Croc.
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He was in Batman Begins. Batman pantsed him en passant.

- The Ventriloquist would be another great opening foe, but only if they really play up the insanity and don't make Scarface look ridiculous.
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They'd have to practically make him the Jigsaw Killer for this to work at all. Not saying that can't but it seems a long-shot.

Other possibilities:
-The Black Glove + allies. A bit recent, but I thought the whole concept was very well done.
-Amanda Waller (as a B-plot character, anyways)
-Lock-up (as a B-character)
-Lady Shiva (that could be fucking awesome)
-Talia al Gul would be hard, but you could have an awesome tragic romance story going on there, and we could finally forgive Nolan for leaving her out of Batman Begins and inventing a reason to have Katie Holmes in it.
- David Caine (B-character, cool as he is, he doesn't work so well without a boss behind him)
-Some other take on Azrael, using the centuries-old order of papal assassins background that they gave him when he got his own comic.

However... looking over the previous two Batman movies, what would I really like to see? A Gotham Central movie.
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QFFuckingT. That would rock so hard.
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

mr_thehun said:
Wow, I just read about Gotham central. That would be an awesome movie all by itself. Damn! If only I could get copies of this in China.

I do think that one possibilities is brining Ras Al Ghul back again and perhaps introducing the Lazarus pit though that may be a bit too supernatural for the Nolan films.
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The inspiration for The Dark Knight (The Long Halloween) managed to include Solomon Grundy without it getting really odd. They could probably pull off the Lazarus pit.
 
sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Mr. Zsasz
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He's been mentioned in one or both of the Nolan movies, he escaped from Arkham in Begins.

I don't think we are going to see any real super powered villains, and only mild super science like Scarecrow. Mr. Freeze as he was done in BtAS could work in Nolan's Universe, but not Schumacher's.
 
IronBrig4

IronBrig4

Calendar Man - Hmmm, I don't think there's any way to make him threatening.

Maxie Zeus - A guy who thinks he's Zeus? This might sell considering God of War's popularity.
 
Espy

Espy

The important thing to remember here is that this is the LAST Nolan film and it's his finale. It's not going to be a random "bad guy is doing bad things and has to be stopped" it is, I feel comfortable saying, going to be EPIC and HUGE.
 
Shawn

Shawn

Espy said:
The important thing to remember here is that this is the LAST Nolan film and it's his finale. It's not going to be a random "bad guy is doing bad things and has to be stopped" it is, I feel comfortable saying, going to be EPIC and HUGE.
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Which makes me surprised that Joker was in the second one, considering he's the most notable Batman villain, and would have been the first choice for a Grand Finale. Catwoman and Penguin would likely be close seconds, but Penguin feels more like a secondary villain if done in the Nolan fashion. He's the type of character you would expect to take the reigns of the failing Gotham criminal underworld and unite it. But at that point it becomes too much of a cop drama than it does a Batman film. Something else would be needed. Bane or Croc would be powerful destructive forces that could lead to some epic fights, but Nolan's decision to keep everything real world grounded may wimpify those characters. Mad Hatter is a personal favorite of mine and due for a movie, but how can he be portrayed in a way that he comes off as a significant threat to Batman and not simply be a madman on the loose like the Joker?
 
MindDetective

MindDetective

I think the intention was that the Joker would be in the third one and that now has to change.

Also, are there any graphic novels or notable Batman storylines which feature Batman making a comeback?
 
Espy

Espy

I think people are going to be surprised at how the movie uses its "villains" to be honest. The idea that they are the focus of the movie is probably misplaced in my opinion. I don't think we are going to see "Batman vs XXX" so much.
 
Adam

Adam

Talia al G'hul, in revenge for the death for her father, adopts her own fighting mantle, one of the Egyptian god Bast. Receiving the same training as Bruce Wayne, she becomes a force in her own right, a mirror image of the Batman as her own costumed counterpart, Catwoman.
 
sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

MindDetective said:
I think the intention was that the Joker would be in the third one and that now has to change.

Also, are there any graphic novels or notable Batman storylines which feature Batman making a comeback?
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Batman has rebuilt his reputation on many occasions. But normally after The Joker or The Riddler frame him, not a self imposed mark against his name.
 
figmentPez

figmentPez

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MindDetective said:
Also, are there any graphic novels or notable Batman storylines which feature Batman making a comeback?
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A comeback from what? KnightsEnd had him returning after a broken back and having to defeat Jean Paul Valley, who went psycho while filling in for him.

At one point in the No Man's Land storyline Batman makes a return after months of being gone. (Oh, how I would love to have No Man's Land be a mini-series. I don't think it could be shortened to feature film length.)
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Really, I want this one to be more focused then the others on a single villian out on his own. Batman Begins have the league of shadows and the inmates controlled by Scarecrow. Later on we got Joker basically taking over the whole mob. This time I would like it to become one crazy fool that stands up to Batman on his own, always outmatching him but not openly trying to "take over" anything, basically more "detective" this time rather then "superhero".

I think Bane, Croc, or Catwoman would work well in this role. Bane or Croc can just be serial killers out on the run, murdering people around the city. Catwoman can be a burglar with a murderous streak, killing the people she steals from with her "claws" and maybe putting out a vendetta versus some key people around town.

The only issue is I think people would get bored if Batman didn't have loads of henchmen to beat up. :(
 
K

kaykordeath

figmentPez;448134][QUOTE=MindDetective said:
Also, are there any graphic novels or notable Batman storylines which feature Batman making a comeback?
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A comeback from what? KnightsEnd had him returning after a broken back and having to defeat Jean Paul Valley, who went psycho while filling in for him.

At one point in the No Man's Land storyline Batman makes a return after months of being gone. (Oh, how I would love to have No Man's Land be a mini-series. I don't think it could be shortened to feature film length.)[/QUOTE]

In the current story line, he's coming back from death that really isn't death but rather the effects of Darkseid's Omega Beam....and he's had to fight his way back through time....
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

If Deadshot isn't the primary traditional villain antagonist, he should at least be present. His part of Gotham Knight was intense, and he's a reasonable enough choice for Nolan's universe.

I say "traditional villain antagonist" because the police are going to be on Batman's ass, and I think he's going to have new personal issues to deal with as far as continuing this in light of who he's lost on top of his parents and the manhunt. It's unfortunate we won't see the Joker again, but I'm confident Nolan will pull out another win for the end of the trilogy, unlike Sam Raimi.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I think it's funny how there's endless speculation on this movie when it's still so far away. I'll just wait until there's, you know, a trailer.
 
Fun Size

Fun Size

I pretty much agree with TNG there, but I do think that, of the Batman villains I'm aware of, Sheg's guess is my best bet too. Dark, disturbing, and doesn't require a silly costume.
 
Cajungal

Cajungal

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Gusto said:
Am I the only one who wants to see a Nolanized version of Clayface?
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No you are not! I think he'd be great in one of Nolan's movies!

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ThatNickGuy said:
I think it's funny how there's endless speculation on this movie when it's still so far away. I'll just wait until there's, you know, a trailer.
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It's just fun to talk about. I always wondered if someone would have the idea to sort of reinvent Harley Quinn's character. Instead of making her the Joker's shrink, make her some fangirl who knew of him and just becomes a villian in order to get revenge or something. But then I'm sure people would have hissy fits... I still think it's a good idea.
 
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