Actors approached for live-action remake of Akira leaked

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And they still couldn't do that right.
So what did they get wrong? The actors captured the characters just about perfectly, the effects were incredible, and a giant fucking squid would have looked retarded, plus the subplot involving it would have added another 50 minutes of otherwise useless story.
 
I can't tell if this is real or a parody...but if it is, we are in deep trouble.

My god.
...There is no god.
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So what did they get wrong? The actors captured the characters just about perfectly, the effects were incredible, and a giant fucking squid would have looked retarded, plus the subplot involving it would have added another 50 minutes of otherwise useless story.
Can we not have this topic again? The last when went on forever and it was probably the same people on each side arguing the stupid points.
 
They're planning to change Tetsuo's name to Travis? Barf. It's probably the least of the things they're doing to the story, but still...

Actually, I suppose the name change makes sense if they're going to have a white cast, but then what about Akira? Is he going to stay Japanese? I'd be feeling a little salty about it if what the article says is true and they turn Akira into the villain, but then keep him as the only Japanese character.
 
They're planning to change Tetsuo's name to Travis? Barf. It's probably the least of the things they're doing to the story, but still...

Actually, I suppose the name change makes sense if they're going to have a white cast, but then what about Akira? Is he going to stay Japanese? I'd be feeling a little salty about it if what the article says is true and they turn Akira into the villain, but then keep him as the only Japanese character.
At this point, why bother calling it "Akira"?

Two of the major themes of Akira are adolescence, and the clash between the individual and civilized society. Tetsuo and Kaneda are 15 year olds in a violent motorcycle gang, and they're actually introduced to us committing violent acts against a rival gang. Kaneda gets involved with political dissidents through Kei, who doesn't appear much older, and the Espers are oddly childlike as well. Tetsuo's rage and uncontrolled transformations are symbolic of adolescence as well. Meanwhile, we see that the political leadership of Neo-Tokyo is weak, cowardly, and self-serving, and that the people are looking for any figure that seems to promise change, so much so that they follow Tetsuo during his rampage, even though it leads to their death.

The problem is that if you change the characters from wild youths to established adults, that changes the entire nature of the movie. Tetsuo only works sympathetically because he's a teenager who doesn't have a place in society, and when he gains his psychic powers, his only motivation is to go on a destructive rampage against those he thinks have slighted him - society, the government, his rival youths.

Another factor is, if you look through all different series of Japanese entertainment, the wholesale destruction of cities is almost a running gag. All the kaiju movies feature it, many anime series feature it, it's kind of a given that cities are impermanent, easily erased by the powerful. In the aftermath of the recent earthquake and tsunami, it's sort of clear why that is.

The American psyche isn't geared the same. New Orleans is still being rebuilt, still something of a mental scar on the landscape. Even Ground Zero in Manhattan, which in some ways, society is still trying to recover from.

When you change those factors, you don't have the same story and with it being so widely different, it's less harmful to not saddle it with the baggage of something it no longer is.
 
At this point, why bother calling it "Akira"?
To cover their asses if it flops. Studios are highly risk-averse: if an exec greenlights an entirely new story, then if the movie goes down in flames, he gets the blame for making the gamble on an unknown quantity, and that could cost him his job. Pushing through an adaptation of a story with a successful track record is a lot less risky since in case of failure, blame can be assigned to any number of factors. At least, that's my understanding of how the system works.
 
Even if they had pictures, I don't think it would be all that representative. Things look different in stills than in action. Take the Transformers, for example. Some of them look really stupid in stills, but in action, they actually work pretty well. The Ghost Rider bike looks awesome in stills, but kind of crappy in motion.

However, it is definitely for the best that the project has essentially failed.

Now, if only someone can resurrect HALO out of development hell...
 
Now, if only someone can resurrect HALO out of development hell...
HALO's problem is that the directors wanted to change a lot of it, but Microsoft and Bungie wanted to keep it true to the games and wanted final say on EVERYTHING. Because this would handicap the director too much and because it essentially meant the movie studio would be fronting all the risk on a property it didn't own, no one's been willing to do it.

They also had trouble getting a star, as Master Chief is a role where your face is never shown (and Microsoft/Bungie wasn't willing to budge on that) and it's hard to promote your role when no one sees your face. I heard V for Vendetta had similar problems.
 

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Ugh. That's the trope I hate in anime dubs. It's like the same 10 actors, and none of them are very good.

I'm going to say this, and to hell with the backlash: Akira was boring and unnecessarily convoluted in a way that added nothing to the story or the spectacle. Yeah, I get the metaphors, etc. Still boring.
 
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I'm going to say this, and to hell with the backlash: Akira was boring and unnecessarily convoluted in a way that added nothing to the story or the spectacle. Yeah, I get the metaphors, etc. Still boring.
I hate to admit this, but I more or less agree. It's too rooted in Japanese culture to translate well - it's like the scene in Ghost in the Shell that's two or three solid minutes of people walking in rain and the soundtrack scream-singing in gibberish, where more or less the movie's taking a goddamn break, before getting back on with the story. I'm sure that's a deep, meaningful, perhaps even beautiful scene if you have the right background to appreciate it. Personally, I just asked, "What the fuck is this shit, did the movie need a smoke break or something?"
 
I hate to admit this, but I more or less agree. It's too rooted in Japanese culture to translate well - it's like the scene in Ghost in the Shell that's two or three solid minutes of people walking in rain and the soundtrack scream-singing in gibberish, where more or less the movie's taking a goddamn break, before getting back on with the story. I'm sure that's a deep, meaningful, perhaps even beautiful scene if you have the right background to appreciate it. Personally, I just asked, "What the fuck is this shit, did the movie need a smoke break or something?"
Dude, that's the obligatory groping break...
 
I'm going to say this, and to hell with the backlash: Akira was boring and unnecessarily convoluted in a way that added nothing to the story or the spectacle. Yeah, I get the metaphors, etc. Still boring.
I doubt you've seen it in 20 years, otherwise you'd remember that it didn't get like that until the last 15 minutes of a 2 hour movie.
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I hate to admit this, but I more or less agree. It's too rooted in Japanese culture to translate well - it's like the scene in Ghost in the Shell that's two or three solid minutes of people walking in rain and the soundtrack scream-singing in gibberish, where more or less the movie's taking a goddamn break, before getting back on with the story. I'm sure that's a deep, meaningful, perhaps even beautiful scene if you have the right background to appreciate it. Personally, I just asked, "What the fuck is this shit, did the movie need a smoke break or something?"
It's atmosphere.
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That's one of my favorite sequences from Ghost in the Shell. *shrug* Different strokes for different folks.
That was one of the few sequences I even liked from Ghost in the Shell, which I thought was preachy and overrated. But then, I only saw the terrible original dubbed version, so for all I know it's actually a much better movie even when the characters are talking.
 
This what I always think of when I think of Akira.

Spoiler warning, I guess.


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also this:

 

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wut.
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I think you're overinterpreting what I said. I said "I recognize this trope in english dubs" AND I am also saying "I recognize it because these particular actors stand out to me as annoying". I'm not saying "this trope means bad dub actors".
 
Ahem: "That's the trope I hate in anime dubs."

When i over-interpret stuff i damn well know i'm doing it, thank you very much... and that's why i'm a brain on a tripod and you are a bunch of lines drawn with a pencil...
 

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There's nothing in that quote that refutes what I said. It is the trope I hate in anime dubs. Then I explained why I hated it. That still doesn't mean I think that trope is exclusively describing anime dubs.
 
There's nothing in that quote that refutes what I said. It is the trope I hate in anime dubs. Then I explained why I hated it. That still doesn't mean I think that trope is exclusively describing anime dubs.
You'll never win this argument. @li3n is impervious to logic.
 
There's nothing in that quote that refutes what I said. It is the trope I hate in anime dubs. Then I explained why I hated it. That still doesn't mean I think that trope is exclusively describing anime dubs.
So you where saying all anime dubs are badly done...

Then what was your problem with my assertion that "But that has little to do with the trope and it's just using bad voice actors... "

You'll never win this argument. @li3n is impervious to logic.
It's my superpower...
 

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What? I don't understand the issue. I said, "I know this trope, because it stands out in bad anime dubs. I dislike that because it is especially prevalent in my own perception in bad anime dubs." In fact, it's the badness of the actors that makes the trope especially apparent.
 
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