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I actually agree that leaving the "of Mars" out is a good thing. When ERB wrote the series (starting in 1912) it was not out of the realm of science to think that Mars might be habitable. Now we know better. So saying John Carter and showing a good trailer will bring people in. Saying, "John Carter, Warlord of Mars" and people will scoff or belittle the project.
You have to remember that although a lot of us here know the series, most people won't. They should NOT cater to we nerds as we are not the majority and it's a bad business plan, no matter what we choose to think.
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Oh, and if you are unfamiliar with it, here's a link to the Project Gutenburg text of the first book in the series, "A Princess of Mars".
You have to remember that although a lot of us here know the series, most people won't. They should NOT cater to we nerds as we are not the majority and it's a bad business plan, no matter what we choose to think.
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Oh, and if you are unfamiliar with it, here's a link to the Project Gutenburg text of the first book in the series, "A Princess of Mars".
Prince of Persia?
I assumed He-man from the X shaped vest thing.
Looks like it might be fun. I'm not familiar with the source material at all.
I am not familiar with the source either, but now I want to be.
What I'm afraid of is that should I read the source I will be sorely disappointed with the movie. Perhaps it is best to see the movie, then read the books.
What I'm afraid of is that should I read the source I will be sorely disappointed with the movie. Perhaps it is best to see the movie, then read the books.
I usually do this. It let's me judge the movie on it's own better and also provides me with characters in my head when I read the book.
Actually you are... just like anyone who knows Superman is familiar with Hugo Danner etc...
I was wondering why they are even calling it John Carter rather then Princess of Mars. Then I read up on it and found out that The Asylum made a version of Princess of Mars back in 2009. No wonder they decided to go with John Carter.
Right, if you have any idea what early Buck Rogers was like, you know John Carter. The Radio, Comic, Movie Serial character was originally a John Carter rip-off.
Here's another link to the text as Gutenberg seems to be down right now:
Speaking of retro, check out the Geocities vibe of the official ERB John Carter site:
Speaking of retro, check out the Geocities vibe of the official ERB John Carter site:
While they don't need to call it "John Carter of Mars", I'm not sure what the point of calling it a name that absolutely no one who isn't already familiar with it will associate with any of the themes of the film is a good idea. "John Carter" is not exactly a name on the forefront of cultural osmosis.
It just reminds me of when they thought calling taking the "Star Trek" out of "Star Trek: Enterprise" was a good idea, because apparently "Enterprise" was guaranteed to bring in the non-SF crowd.
It just reminds me of when they thought calling taking the "Star Trek" out of "Star Trek: Enterprise" was a good idea, because apparently "Enterprise" was guaranteed to bring in the non-SF crowd.
Immortal, Confederate, Tarzan in SPACE!!!!!
It has a ring to it.
It has a ring to it.
As @li3n noted, he effectively has super leap and strength because of the lower gravity. It's a major plot point in the books.
Yeah. The second trailer makes it almost sound like the soundtrack is being done by Led Zeppelin.
--Patrick
I actually prefer the opposite. I don't like having pre-defined characters in my head when reading a book. I like to build them in my head from the ground up.
I thought you liked the people here.
No amount of bdsm can save terrible writing. Just stay away.
Also, stay away from anyone who uses the phrase "Gorean lifestyle" in any serious fashion.
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Wow, that does look pretty bad... i really hope it's just them trying to make the movie look "bad ass""....
So apparently they took out the Mars part because girls hate the solar system: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/12...y-john-carter-of-mars-became-just-john-carter
As fucking stupid as it sounds, after working myself in consumer research, he may not actually be wrong. I'd be really really surprised if Disney(?) hadn't done research on this topic, and the silliest little things affect purchase intent. I just worked a game research project where reported purchase intent among male gamers went down simply because the game had a female protagonist. Not anything in particular about her or her relation to the game, just that she was female. Seriously.
That said, there is also every possibility that he didn't do any research at all and is just talking out of his ass.
That said, there is also every possibility that he didn't do any research at all and is just talking out of his ass.
Yup, removing "of Mars" from the title totally makes that movie not look terrible.
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