[Webcomic] PVP Discussion

Adam

Adam

Dave said:
It is worth noting that so far the commitment Scott is making to the the WotC strips have made them a LOT funnier. It's his roots, yo!
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Scott is like a horse. As long as you're whipping him in one direction, he can actually do a right job, but if you're not whipping him, he stops to take a lot of drinks.

So what I'm trying to say is you can lead a Kurtz to water, but you can't make him not drink.
 
Zappit

Zappit

Staff member
There's sponsorship money at stake, he's gotta produce. Funny how a geek strip gets funny again after returning to geek humor, though.
 
Gusto

Gusto

I didn't say it was bad. I'm just saying Francis is an asshole. And if he were meeting with a huge corporate sponsor like Wizards and behaved like that, he would be fucking terminated.
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I didn't say it was bad. I'm just saying Francis is an asshole. And if he were meeting with a huge corporate sponsor like Wizards and behaved like that, he would be fucking terminated.
 
Dave

Dave

Staff member
Zappit said:
If you look at this, http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=170140 - he's got Francis acting like a typical hardcore "competitive Magic psycho". There's fifty-plus pages in that thread folks. Methinks Kurtz did him some homework.
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Ha! I LOVE post #12 of that thread.

I think I speak for all of us when I say that this is completely unreadable. Also, why do you need ellipses that are longer than three dots?

Infraction issued for mutilating the English language.
-Memnarch
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Espy

Espy

SpecialKO said:
I...I thought that was part of the joke. :oops:
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It was but part of the problem with all PVP is Scott veers wildly between uber-realistic storylines (OMG THE DRAMA!!!!) and cartoonish ones. There seem to be no rules in his world (contrast that with C&H and Bloom County where the authors worked hard to be consistent even in their insanity). If Scott wants to be able to pull the occasional-becoming-more-common Maryworthfunkywinderbeandrama he has to be careful of those swings to the other side of the spectrum like this. At least thats how I see it.
 
Gusto

Gusto

SpecialKO said:
I...I thought that was part of the joke. :oops:
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In a comic where we KNOW Scott is planning an arc wherein
Cole gets fired
we can't assume that similar rules shouldn't apply to Francis. Especially since he's a huge asshole to a huge sponsor that seems to be willing to help out a magazine that's almost gone bankrupt like 4 times now.
 
Gusto

Gusto

Again, I'm not saying that it wasn't humourous, but in a world where there are established business consequences, Francis would be fired for this bullshit.
 
bigcountry23

bigcountry23

Francis won't get fired. Kurtz already has plans for him
to "come out of the closet" if the strip lasts 20 years (he made this promise when the strip made it to 10). I have a feeling that Max being gay is just the primer to the storyline that will unfold in 2018 (assuming the comic is still around by then).
 
R

Raemon777

There's no scenario in which Francis gets fired and *actually leaves the strip*, so I don't think him getting temporarily booted has any bearing on the coming out storyline.
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

No, no he's not. I have more than enough quality webcomics on my daily list than to give "hits" to a worthless (barely) human, backstabbing, inconsiderate, self-absorbed, self-indulgent, idiot.

Am I mad? Funny enough, not anymore. I simply see him for what he is and refuse to ever forget that.
 
Shegokigo

Shegokigo

I don't care about his looks, I just hate people who:

Act higher than they are
Do things that hurt others without a single bit of (shown) guilt
Two-Face themselves over everything (Paper Comics are shit, Omg Paper Comic people like me now so they're amazing, Paper comics are shit again)
etc etc
 
DarkAudit

DarkAudit

And then there's Ding! Which used to be about real players in a real Horde guild, with the PvP crew mixed in. And then Scott started publicly sucking up to Gabe and Tycho. Ding! changed to what I can best describe as illustrated fan letters, and after a reader revolt, tried to shift back but just withered and died instead.

At the same time, Scott abandoned his post as ceremonial guild leader of one of the most well-known guilds around, in order to further suck up to Gabe and Tycho. Quit the server and changed sides.

He didn't pull a Buckley on us, but that's about the nicest thing that can be said about the whole situation. We don't talk about him much anymore.
 
Gusto

Gusto

If you listen to all of Scott's podcasts (as I have, yeah, I know, super cool), he's been mulling over moving to Seattle ever since late 2005.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

I remember him being very reluctant to leave his dad and Texas.

I think criticizing him for that is stupid as hell. I wish I had the job freedom to move north like he did and live near my friends (and family too, in my case). If it came down to choosing between that and a life-sucking, time-wasting MMO, I'd ditch the MMO without a thought, like he apparently did.
 
SpecialKO

SpecialKO

DarkAudit said:
Did I ever say I was mad he quit the guild? But the way he did it and the way he suddenly up and moved to Seattle strikes me as the wannabe trying to latch himself onto the cool kids.
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They've been friends for years and he took a long time to figure out whether he was going to do it or not. That doesn't seem remotely weird or "sucking up".

My only issue with Scott is how "out with the old, in with the new" he is all the time. His default solution to any of the problems that have popped up in the running and growing of PvP is to cut, run, and move on to the next big thing.

If he was just trying a lot of different things, I wouldn't mind at all, but it seems like before he tries anything new, he has to burn the bridges, scorch the earth, and salt the ground upon which the old things lay.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

SpecialKO said:
They've been friends for years and he took a long time to figure out whether he was going to do it or not. That doesn't seem remotely weird or "sucking up".

My only issue with Scott is how "out with the old, in with the new" he is all the time. His default solution to any of the problems that have popped up in the running and growing of PvP is to cut, run, and move on to the next big thing.

If he was just trying a lot of different things, I wouldn't mind at all, but it seems like before he tries anything new, he has to burn the bridges, scorch the earth, and salt the ground upon which the old things lay.
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That I'll agree with. Each time he makes an announcement on PVP, it feels like he's saying "Everything else is finished. This is the way of the future!"
 
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