[Gaming] Elder Scrolls 5 - Dawnguard is HERE!

Hilarious AI moment.

So, I'm riding on my horse, my follower is following. Stop by a bridge to pick up some Nirnroot. As I pick it up, random Mudcrab aggroes and attacks me from behind. I take out my new Glass Sword and scream out, "CRAB BATTLE." We trade hits, this is a big mudcrab.... down it goes.

That done, I turn around to look for my horse... only to see it running down the plains for no reason other than to aggro a Giant that was midning his own business 100 feet away. Horse gets a sneak attack on the unsuspecting Giant and the Giant gets mad and promptly one shots my horse and it goes FLYING into the atmosphere. I'm 100 feet away, not even touching my keyboard anymore, and I'm cracking up.

Suddenly, I notice Lydia is doing the SAME THING.... running across the field and pelting the Giant with arrows, Giant runs down to her... and one shots her too, right into the atmosphere.

I'm laughing HARD right now.

When suddenly.

My dead horse lands 5 feet from me and bounces around.

I fall off my chair.

I FELL OFF.

I swear on my mother's head... I fell off my chair laughing out loud.

Fucken Mudcrabs.
 
The game is beautiful, however, as nice as the water and snow particle systems look I keep wishing they had help from the Uncharted folks because THEY know how to make a beautiful game and let your character interact with the environment. I understand the engine has limits but after playing games like Uncharted I expect to see my feet leaving trails in the snow and my clothes getting wet from water.
I'm not complaining, just saying, the bar got raised 2 years ago (and last week with Uncharted 3) and Bethseda is still playing catch up. They are doing a damn good job of it though, it's a game or two away from the Uncharted level of realism I think.
 
I don't need all that--I honestly don't notice footprints because I'm too busy noticing dust rising, or pretty lights in the sky, or dragons trying to breathe the shit out of me.
 
Hmm... now Red Eagle's Blade isn't spawning.

I wonder if I tripped a bug when I murdered the Forsworn king in the prison, just before he had escaped. He had been standing there for a minute, refusing to move, and I couldn't open the door to leave.

I'll try a mainline story mission next. If the object doesn't spawn then I know I have to restart.
 
Wow, you managed to make an elf that actually looks awesome.
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1. Not random; that's the same end to the Bleak Fall Barrow as I had. It's an important story quest.
2. According to the Skyrim dev stuff, there are no random generated dungeons; each was designed individually.
I totally got the jump on that one. I thought it was going to be a side quest and I did it before even talking to the blacksmith. Then when I met the king, I was, like BAM, already got the item!
 
Yeah, they railroad you there pretty hard. Your ether going to go there for the Golden Claw or to get the Dragonstone, but your REALLY going there so you always have a runeword for Unrelenting Force.
 
I don't need all that--I honestly don't notice footprints because I'm too busy noticing dust rising, or pretty lights in the sky, or dragons trying to breathe the shit out of me.
I'm not saying I "need" it either, it's just the progression of game graphics. a few years ago you might be telling someone you don't "dust rising, or pretty lights in the sky, or dragons trying to breathe the shit out of me" and a few years before that 2D plains and pixels were fine. Realize, I'm NOT criticizing the game or gameplay, it's, well, this game is breathtaking. I just can't wait to see Bethesda's games at "Uncharted" graphics/physics/effects levels. It's already on the cusp of that with some of the stuff they have going on and it's only going to get better.
You know who I really hope is sitting down and playing this game hard and taking notes? Bioware. They better learn a thing or two here.
 
Uncharted: A linear game, with basic gameplay and animations in the sense that they are are based around 1-2 character models.

Skyrim: Too huge to even imagine as far as gameplay mechanics and animation models.

You can't compare the two even remotely.
 
I'm not "comparing" them like you think I am.
Skyrim is great and it looks great, especially for the type of game it is. I'm not saying and haven't said that that "Uncharted" is a "better" or "worse" game. It's not about that. Playing Skyrim made me notice the huge leaps over Fallout3 that Bethseda has made and I can't wait to see the next bump in graphics for the Bethseda games, which, with as far as they've come? I won't be surprised if it's got more of the physics and graphics that games like Uncharted have. They are already well on there way.
 
Anyone else having a good time reading the books? I've made an effort to read every I come across and I find them highly entertaining.
 
High Elf Destructomage!



That mask came from a dickhead super lich monster. That fight was the most brutal thing I've run into. Open space, not much cover, he's a deadeye with his fireballs (which explode so big you don't really need to be) and it only took 2-3 near hits to smear me. Took me a half dozen tries.
 
It's pretty funny how often I've barely had to lift a finger to take out a dragon because the giants and mammoths were around to fuck it up.
 
I don't have the rig to play this game, so it'll be a while before I can play it. Until then, however, I've been listening to the music, and damn if the music isn't epic. I can't stop listening.

I mean, the main theme itself, which we heard in the trailer, makes me want to spring from my chair and declare war on a Nordic nation.
Found a version which will play on my antiquated equipment. I don't get why everyone is so excited about the graphics.


--Patrick
 
Awesome, now I'm somewhere where I'm fighting Daedra spellcasters en masse on a tiny thin platform with nowhere to move or without any sort of cover. They are taking turns alternating between lightning and fireballs.

Magic seems to have been a mistake.

I'm also certain that magicka regen doesn't work the same way between NPCs and PCs. As in, they have unlimited and I can cast my high level destruction spells 3 times.

They take 10 hits at the least.
 
There are definitely scaling issues. I'm hoping for a patch to help and I know mods will be available eventually.
For example.... I'm a sneak type. I pick my targets either with a bow 3x or melee 6x. I walk into somewhere and sneak behind this one guard and tap him with my mace or a dagger, one shot. NPC Named "Bandit". If he's anything but a "bandit" for example "bandit outlaw"... I'll wack him for a mace for 6x damage and it took out... MAYBE 1/5 of his health tops? Which is INSANE! Then a battle will ensure. My drop on them was for a very negligible advantage.
I don't EVER feel I'm getting better and them getting weaker. Guys with leather armor are fighting toe to toe with heavy plate guy who's wacking the shit out of them doesn't make sense. When 2-3 come at you, you have a problem.
I do enjoy the challenge whatever but I'd like better scaling.
I've killed 4-5 dragons thus far.... all named Dragon... and they are comparable to a Bandit Outlaw. A good challenge but not unbeatable at all.
I just ran up to a Mammoth at LVL 29 and tried to melee. I got 2 shotted... my companion went flying as the battle started. I'm in full plate gear, 180 defense.... 350 health.
I hope for a patch soon where I can talk to people while I'm riding my horse.
Also, does it happen for you guys as well when you talk to an NPC and you start looking at your feet?
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Also, for some reason, my horse has started charging everything that attacks me in the last 5-6 hours of gameplay. Nothing stopped this. He just goes in the thick of things and kicks the shit out of anything.
Hasn't died yet, other than that Giant incident. lol
 
Just finished the Companions Questline.

The reward really didn't seem worth it... sure, I can take back the axe you reforged and that's a very nice axe against elves, but the other part is kinda... lame. It lets you forge enhanced versions of the Ancient Nord weapons (which are worse than my current choices) and an Ancient Nord armor set (which is ALSO worse than my current stuff) at the Skyforge. If you got that earlier in game it would be better, but mid-game it's kinda lame. It honestly seems like becoming a werewolf is the best part of doing the Companions stuff!

NPC Named "Bandit". If he's anything but a "bandit" for example "bandit outlaw"... I'll wack him for a mace for 6x damage and it took out... MAYBE 1/5 of his health tops? Which is INSANE! Then a battle will ensure. My drop on them was for a very negligible advantage.
I don't EVER feel I'm getting better and them getting weaker. Guys with leather armor are fighting toe to toe with heavy plate guy who's wacking the shit out of them doesn't make sense. When 2-3 come at you, you have a problem.
It seems like a 15-20 problem... or it was for me anyway. Now that I've got the Stagger perk, my bow is back to being awesome (even if I still need 2-5 arrows per a target) and I can take on just about anything. Make sure you have the best perks for your preferred weapon type... game seems scaled around you having them. Even then your going to take some poundings so be sure to carry lots of potions or work on your Restoration.

Still having trouble with the Mammoths and Giants though... they just have such huge piles of health that I really can't do anything about it. Even if I poison every shot it barely helps.

I've killed 4-5 dragons thus far.... all named Dragon... and they are comparable to a Bandit Outlaw. A good challenge but not unbeatable at all.
I've started running into Blood/Black dragons. They seem to have more health and different tactics. For instance, the Blood Dragon was flying straight into the air, past the clouds, so I couldn't track him. Then he'd dive bomb me. I've also been running into ones that shoot lightning or ice too. I don't know if it's because I've started spreading out further or if it's my high level (26) though.
 
So yeah, I got a freakin copy. However I decided to go with my lesser played "Witch" style character and see how she does in the long run. Orc Kigo will have to wait....

Stories abound in the Stories thread soon enough.
 
My problem lately has been telling whether someone is a decent human being from afar. Thanks to Dave's "drunks around the fire" story, I keep wanting to give people the benefit of a doubt, and then they keep turning out to be bandits who I could've gotten halfway dead from a distance before revealing my position. So now I'm getting into a shoot first perspective... and then I kill a blind guy.
 

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So yeah, I got a freakin copy. However I decided to go with my lesser played "Witch" style character and see how she does in the long run. Orc Kigo will have to wait....

Stories abound in the Stories thread soon enough.
That's exactly how I am. I naturally would give people a chance to talk before I attack them. So I either just accept the consequences and fight close-range, or quicksave before approaching.
 
Man, hats off to Bethesda on this incredibly stable, amazingly compact (file size) yet intensely massive game.

How the fuck is this game 5 gigs whereas, say, Modern Warfare 3 is 15 gigs and fucking Old Republic is 120 trillion?
 
That is what I was thinking too.5gigs and you get a rich world, 15 gigs and I get a long street with houses on both sides and nice explosions.
 
Just grab Azura's Star. She's pretty keen to give it to you.
Also, who was once Khyron, that dude that little girls hired thugs to beat the shit out of is now Arch-Mage Khyron of the Mage's College at Winterhold.

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Ooooogh, I have gorged on this game like so many horker loaves over the past couple days. Since it came out midnight on friday I have put 20 hours into it. Time for a break.
 
I'm really enjoying using magic and a sturdy ax or mace. I love smacking these guys with fire then beating their heads in with my mace. :)
 
I'm really enjoying using magic and a sturdy ax or mace. I love smacking these guys with fire then beating their heads in with my mace.
This is good to hear - that's my preferred play style so glad it seems to work. But I am finishing at least one assignment before I buy this thing. I want to at least have a hope of passing this term!
 
So question. If I steal something and not get caught directly (for example, I stole back the Dragons Claw in Riverwood by sneaking into the Traders Lodge while the traders were away at the inn) do I automatically become a wanted man? When I got to the next village a guard stopped me and I payed him off because I "had a price on my head".
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Also behold: Mathias the mighty Redguard Warrior.

 
I'm a Breton battle mage, specialized in one handed weapons, destruction, conjuration, and enchanting. I'm not sure if my bonuses to one handed and conjured weapons stack for my conjured sword, but they seem to.
 
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