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Chibibar

Necronic said:
I don't think that piracy and gay marriage are in the same moral basket. Because one is innocuous and the other is unethical.
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Well. Piracy is "theft" of possible income of IP which different people feel differently. Since money makes the person's world go round, anything that prevents you earning your money legally can be a problem.

I wouldn't consider gay marriage unethical. It might be consider unethical in religious sense, but not everyone have the same religion/belief. I believe that everyone should have equal rights as a couple if you are going to give rights to couples.
 
GasBandit

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Chibibar said:
Well. Piracy is "theft" of possible income of IP which different people feel differently. Since money makes the person's world go round, anything that prevents you earning your money legally can be a problem.

I wouldn't consider gay marriage unethical. It might be consider unethical in religious sense, but not everyone have the same religion/belief. I believe that everyone should have equal rights as a couple if you are going to give rights to couples.
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You've missed the point. Of course there's nothing unethical about gay marriage. The point is that the morality of the populace is supposed to be what derives the legality of the law. When the two become out of sync, the law has to change.

In related news, 46% of americans (70% of young americans) own up to piracy. And yet the copyrighted IP industry is showing higher profit than ever.
 
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You've missed the point. Of course there's nothing unethical about gay marriage. The point is that the morality of the populace is supposed to be what derives the legality of the law. When the two become out of sync, the law has to change.

In related news, 46% of americans (70% of young americans) own up to piracy. And yet the copyrighted IP industry is showing higher profit than ever.
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Ah. Now I understand better.

Yea. I do use iTunes as a good example to combat music piracy. Before it was expensive and can only buy CDs or Single if you are lucky. iTunes change all that via 99 cent a song. People can finally a-la-cart their music need and the company made TONS of money. Rockband also change the DLC (IMO) via charging $1.99 for a SONG that you can play on a video game. They made millions. Heck, even some band release their music EARLY via Rockband (I can't remember what band/song, but my wife bought it hehe)

Of course there are company who take DLC/add on/a la cart too far with games :) We have made post where the game you buy may not be a "full game" as it use to be and DLC actually "complete" the game instead of enhancing it further (the Mona Lisa picture example is a nice touch)

Take Skyrim. It sold millions of copies and I am willing to bet that game is pirated as well, but since the game is good, people are willing to shell out $60+ dollars for the game (tax and/or deluxe edition)
 
GasBandit

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So we're finally getting our answer after all these centuries about the difference between 1 tyrant 3000 miles away and 3000 tyrants 1 mile away.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Yesterday apparently 700,000 emails had been sent to Congress. Not sure where we're at today. I hope it's making clear that people aren't happy about this.
 
LittleSin

LittleSin

They are arguing over a tweet that a person made right now. He isn't at the thingy (techinal term, no?) and is tweeting about how it if farting aroundon the internet.

Fuckin really?
 
Dave

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Wishy washy?!? They've already taken sides and no amount of debate is changing their minds - which have been bought and paid for.
 
LittleSin

LittleSin

Why the hell am I even watching this? I am growing steadily more disgusted.

They are fighting over a WORD this lady said. They want the word 'offensive' struck from the record. Is it that big of a deal? That she said a word?
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

TV distracted people, while the internet's been used to mount protests and spread information. Congress wants us to go back to watching TV.

There's a list that one unnamed Senator apparently intends to read, of every name on a list of people against SOPA, and I wonder some things. One, most companies sound against this, so someone must be saying one thing and paying another into Congress's pockets, otherwise this bill would be dead. Two, how much clamoring must we peasants do before turning Congress heads? I thought these were our representatives, with our best interests in mind, not our rulers.
 
Bowielee

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Holy Crap, I'm actually reading through the text of this, and man, they are casting a WIDE net. Basically, they're invoking the power to shut down any payment site that is associated with "foreign piracy". So, basically, we can see paypal and the like to be replaced by the new and improved "pay a fee for every transaction corporate model".

I can hardly believe that this thing is seriously being considered.

This is Orwellian on a grand scale.

Also, I love how they're selling this as a protection of american jobs. This bill will literally put thousands of people out of work.
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

LittleSin said:
Hell, if I'm reading it right, THIS site could be shut down several times over.
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That's sort of the point. Corporations are notoriously litigious and are more than willing to file papers if only to get their way. The mere threat of a lawsuit and Dave would shut this place down in a heartbeat. Anyone would.
 
Bowielee

Bowielee

Also, no more TGWTG or Blistered Thumbs. Fair Use be damned, they'll file suit. Also, YouTube, hell, even IMDB and Wikipedia could be on the chopping block under these totalitarian terms.
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

mr_thehun said:
Or they would host it outside of the us. This bill is going to do wonders of ensuring the next generation of innovators will come from outside of america.
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I don't think it would matter if it was hosted outside the US. Technically all the filming and editing took place in the US, so the actual "infringement" might still be actionable.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

LittleSin said:
That and they petitioning google to 'block' access to such sites. You know, like Chine.
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Apparently from Nostalgia Chick's video, Rob was mentioning one suit saying, "If Google can block sites for China, why can't they do it for us?"

-_- It's funny, how many decades America was fighting against even the idea of becoming a communist nation.
 
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