Would you prefer the darth gramps fight in attack of the clones?
Worse and Worse and Worse...Phantom Menace goes 3-D
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Wow Espy, my deepest condolences, I had no idea you were blind. It must be a challenge for you everyday to post on this board
Hey, I like flips and shit and that fight has tons of 'em, it just never felt like anything other than some great choreography was happening. It had none of the tension of Luke's battle with Darth Vader in Empire. I mean, hey, I'm glad you liked it, tons of people liked Ep1 and thought that the battles were awesome, it just never got beyond "looks cool" for me.
Oh geese, that was even worse. Comparatively the Darth Maul fight was awesome. Of course compared to that fight Sponge Bob fighting a rock would be awesome.Would you prefer the darth gramps fight in attack of the clones?
A lot of the prequel fights were already foregone conclusions though, so a lack of tension is pretty much expected. Obi-Wan's not gonna die in the first, second or third films. Anakin's not going to beat Obi-Wan, and Yoda's not going to beat Sidious in the third film. However, because Anakin needs to lose to Obi-Wan, that means Dooku's not going to beat Anakin at the beginning of the third film.
In the end, if you don't have that tension, then "looks cook" and choreography are all you got. And that's all I need, personally!
In the end, if you don't have that tension, then "looks cook" and choreography are all you got. And that's all I need, personally!
You didn't feel "tension" because there was no build of up with Maul progressively becoming more and more of a threat to the Jedi. It was more like "Oh he chased us" "Oh he's here now".
And yeah, it also didn't need to go beyond "looks cool" because it's easily the best looking fight of all 6 movies.
My issue with the Ep1 fight was...
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT HUGE ROOM FOR?!!??!
Why didn't the Naboo just run into the room during the invasion, the whole population could have hidden there for several weeks with out notice.
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT HUGE ROOM FOR?!!??!
Why didn't the Naboo just run into the room during the invasion, the whole population could have hidden there for several weeks with out notice.
When you move terawatt energies around in power centers of advanced civilizations, even with superconductors, it requires huge, huge conductors, relays, etc. It also requires a lot of cooling, thus the "pit". Further, huge, huge conductors and relays require big corridors for access, replacement, and maintenance.
Plus it looks good when you take the investors on tour. Showing them a little cramped room and saying, "Your twenty bazillion units of money resulted in this tiny cramped room" doesn't sell as well as ushering them into a huge corridor and saying, "This is the result of your money."
Oh, and because it was in the script.
With a hugenormous power station like that, you would think that the Nabooians had enough power to force-field the planet and blast the F* out of the trade federation.
Hell, they live in a perfect temperate climate, and they don't even use freaking internal light sources. All the light they need shines through their giant glass windows.
Hell, they live in a perfect temperate climate, and they don't even use freaking internal light sources. All the light they need shines through their giant glass windows.
OK, so Naboo made its money shipping batteries to the galactic core...
Their main export is actually cheesy romance novels.
Closely followed by selling dominatrix costumes to Virgin Queens.
From the moment I met you, all those years ago, not a day has gone by when I haven't thought of you. And now that I'm with you again... I'm in agony. The closer I get to you, the worse it gets. The thought of not being with you- I can't breath. I'm haunted by the kiss that you should never have given me. My heart is beating... hoping that kiss will not become a scar. You are in my very soul, tormenting me... what can I do?- I will do anything you ask.
i cried at this twilight quote and i kno you did to if your a romantic put this on your profile today and show every1!
These lines might have worked better if the Virgin Queen actually had something to say in that 10 minute, uncomfortable, monologue.
ya know make it a conversation, not the lines a nerdy stalker uses before he rams the knife into her chest...
No.That twilight quote has more tension in it than the Darth Maul fight.
I wish they would have kept Darth Maul through the trilogy. I thought it would have been more powerful if he killed Qui-Gon in front of Anakin and Obi Wan. In the third episode Anakin could have fought him in front of the emperor and fueled by rage kill Maul thus pushing Anakin to the dark side. Although I wouldn't have killed Qui-Gon in the first movie. I would have made him more of a father figure to Anakin. Then in one swoop Maul kills Qui Gon and Tuscan Raiders kill Anakin's mom. Losing the only two people he loved pushes him to the dark side. But I would have kept Jar Jar in there so what do I know.
I kind of agree, Espy. It's got all the spectacle, but none of the emotion. There's really not much at stake. Certainly not even remotely compared to any of the first trilogy.
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Steve: Totally. If I'd written that scene, I would've had Maul make a face to Obi-Wan and beat feet.
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Steve: Totally. If I'd written that scene, I would've had Maul make a face to Obi-Wan and beat feet.
And he totally had the opportunity to since Obi-Wan was stuck behind the barrier. He would've been completely incapable of pursuing until the barrier went down again and would've had no chance of catching up unless he used that super-run from the beginning of the movie.
We don't know if there was any other way out, though, did we? He could've just beat feet and disappear off-screen, leaving Obi-Wan with his mentor's body.
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Honestly though, the only reason we had more characters like Dooku and...whathisname (the cyborg guy; don't bother correcting, you know the one I mean) was to sell more toys.
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Honestly though, the only reason we had more characters like Dooku and...whathisname (the cyborg guy; don't bother correcting, you know the one I mean) was to sell more toys.
Now, I'm not going to dispute that the characters of Dooku and General Grievous probably helped the merchandise income. ("Moichandising! Where the real money from the movie is made!) But there's a story-related reason for their existence too: They all represented aspects of what would eventually become Vader.
Maul was a Sith lord, who did Sidious's bidding. Dooku was a former Jedi. Grievous was a cyborg. Eventually Sidious found someone who combined the traits of all three.
Damn, I just realized this makes me sound like I like the prequel trilogy. I'm gonna get a pillocking now, aren't I...
Maul was a Sith lord, who did Sidious's bidding. Dooku was a former Jedi. Grievous was a cyborg. Eventually Sidious found someone who combined the traits of all three.
Damn, I just realized this makes me sound like I like the prequel trilogy. I'm gonna get a pillocking now, aren't I...
*polishes his pitchfork* Hm? Oh, no no no, Bhamv. We're all good. Although, now that I think of it, could you go help Espy with that giant vat of tar?
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No, the prequels sucked so bad that even Sam Jackson wasn't memorable in them...There's one good thing to have come out of the prequels.
I loved the clone wars cartoons. Both of them.
Darth Maul and Duel of the Fates stand out more in my mind... most likely because Maul had the advantage of only having like 2 lines.
It's so true.
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