I haven't read anything about him being a "gun nut." I'm curious what that portion of your statement stems from.
[News] The Trayvon Martin Discussion Thread
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I am a radical on gun ownership, I think it's kind of crazy to carry a gun on your person in public (obviously, cops nonwithstanding)
He owned one.
hahahah that fucking letter "look at all these black friends he has!!! he's latino, can't be racist!!!"
Newsflash: Racist doesn't mean white. People of color can be incredibly racist!!!!!
ALSO last time I checked being racist isn't a crime (unfortunately), even if he's not racist, he still fucking murdered a kid!!!!
Newsflash: Racist doesn't mean white. People of color can be incredibly racist!!!!!
ALSO last time I checked being racist isn't a crime (unfortunately), even if he's not racist, he still fucking murdered a kid!!!!
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Soliloquy
There's more to the story than the first few paragraphs.
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SeraRelm
Don't bother. Someone might be racist so anything naysaying that isn't worth reading.
I read the letter.
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Soliloquy
I guess the main things I found interesting were
and
Pretty much it just shows that there's more to this story than the general knowledge of "guy stalks boy, guy shoots boy" that's being reported everywhere. I still think the guy at least needs to get arrested (I mean, he was following the unarmed kid while carrying a gun [well, the letter denies that he followed anyone, but whatever], then shot the kid to death,) but the actual circumstances of the shooting seem a little less cut-and-dry.
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Soliloquy
What worries me is this, though... the guy may very well have an adequate enough legal excuse to not be arrested, no matter how BS his case may be, so even the federal investigation might not end in his arrest. And if that happens... well, things might end badly.
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Meep
Not only that, but the victim clearly brought it upon himself.
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Soliloquy
Oh, boy. Really? Geraldo Rivera is blaming the hoodie? I wear hoodies. I wore one yesterday. They're common clothes worn by people who don't like being cold. And it was raining.
Why people even listen to those guys is beyond me. Or rather... I wish it were beyond me. Stupid networks making money off of confirmation bias.
The only time I look at a person wearing a hoodie as though they are up to no good... is when they are wearing one in Texas during the summer. 98 degrees and a hoodie means that guy is not in his right mind.
Missed it by a "d"
Their neighborhood watch worked better. At least they covered up the crimes in a better manor.
Their neighborhood watch worked better. At least they covered up the crimes in a better manor.
I'll just leave this here...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html
http://www.disinfo.com/2010/03/the-police-arent-legally-obligated-to-protect-you/
"Don’t look to Constitution for help. “In its landmark decision of DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services,” Stevens writes, “the U.S. Supreme Court declared that the Constitution does not impose a duty on the state and local governments to protect the citizens from criminal harm.”"
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makare
If you are going to leave it there probably should explain what your point is exactly.
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Soliloquy
Well, it seems to me that he's saying that since police aren't obligated to protect you by law, people should be allowed to protect themselves with firearms.
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makare
Yeah that'll work out just fine....
I wonder how many police procedural shows will have an episode based on this for the opening of the fall season...
I'm gonna go ahead and guess that the answer to your question is, "yes."
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Soliloquy
Well, to turn this around on you, would you say that a woman in a situation such as the one described in the story shouldn't be allowed to protect herself or her children with a gun?
I was looking for a Number between 2 and 20...
Is there any other form of Drama on American TV?
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Soliloquy
Well, the CSI people technically aren't police. So... there's that?
That's my stock answer for "all of them."
They're the Las Vegas Equivalent of Judge Dredd.
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Soliloquy
Though they also take the time after each case to make sure the suspect feels adequately bad about themselves, moving their jurisdiction to the emotional realm as well.
It appeals to the visceral need humans have for making people not only meet justice, but know they were wrongity wrong wrong wrong.
Much like internet arguments...
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Soliloquy
Wrong!
Oooh burn. I totally got what I deserved and you can tell by my expression as I do the perp walk.
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makare
I'd say the chance of the "protection" working out for her is less likely then a story of child accidentally shoots self, sibling, dog etc with mothers gun.
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Soliloquy
So, is that a "no?"
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makare
Do I think she should be able to carry a gun? sure
do I think it is the right move? absolutely not.
Happy?
do I think it is the right move? absolutely not.
Happy?