[Movies] Is Terminator 2 the Greatest Action Movie of all Time?

[Frank]

I think so yes. I will concede the plot to the original movie is a bit better than T2's but everywhere else Terminator 2 trumps is predecessor. An argument can also be made for Die Hard. A very convincing argument.

Terminator 2 just seems to have everything necessary to be an amazing action film. It's even aged well despite it's early use of CGI.

In case you didn't notice, this thread is for people to argue for or against Terminator 2 as the greatest action movie of any generation.

 

[Tress]

Die Hard >>>> Aliens > Terminator 2

 

[PatrThom]

Where does Jurassic Park fit on this list? Or Speed?
Also, where is The Matrix?

--Patrick

 

[Frank]

All not as good as Terminator 2.

 

[ThatNickGuy]

I agree with Tress. Die Hard or GTFO.

 

[Frank]

I like your argument, I will rebut with nope.

 

[ThatNickGuy]

Does Terminator 2 have Bruce Willis? It needs more Bruce.

 

[Chad Sexington]

Ooooh man. I gotta go Die Hard. Rickman trumps Patrick, I'm afraid. Gruber is just such a great villain. But definitely T2 in a very close second.

 

[Frank]

Good arguments.



Welp, Terminator 2 wins again.

 

[ThatNickGuy]

Sonova...

He's got us there.

 

[Frank]

I will concede to this:

Die Hard is the greatest action movie of the 80's.

Terminator 2 owns the 90's.

Anything after that is kinda moot.

 

[Chad Sexington]

Tangentially related... the best T2 reference ever:

 

[Azurephoenix]

Terminator 2 is totally fucking amazing... 'nuff said.

 

[phil]

Hey Frankie I like what youre saying and imma let you finish but Die hard is the greatest action movie of all time.

Of. All. Time.

 

[Frank]

That Beyonce video wasn't that good.

 

[Tress]

That Beyonce video wasn't that good.

Die Hard >>>> Aliens > Beyonce video > Terminator 2

 

[Frank]

No matter how many times you claim Aliens and Die Hard are better, it doesn't make it right. What do you think T-800?

 

[Tress]

Die Hard >>>> Twilight >Terminator 2

 

[Frank]

 

[Chad Sexington]

ITT: Frankie slowly posts the entirety of Terminator 2, out of sequence.

 

[Tress]

Seriously, though, I do like Terminator 2. I just liked those other films better. And I assume we're differentiating "action" from the so-called "epic" genre that came around in the late 90's and 00's.

 

[Frank]

What would you put into the epic genre?

 

[Frank]

ITT: Frankie slowly posts the entirety of Terminator 2, out of sequence.

 

[Tress]

What would you put into the epic genre?

Things like the Pirates films, the LotR films... basically the super-big budget, large-scale films that are often planned as a trilogy before the first film is even released.

Also, I just thought of another favorite action film: The Bourne Identity. Awesome, awesome film.

 

[Frank]

I'd rate Terminator 2 over all the Pirates movies easily myself and even over the LOTR movies but I was always more of a Hobbit kid myself. I hope the Hobbit isn't shitty looking.

 

[Jay]

Personally? I'd choose T2 over those but they all have merit.

My personal favorite? Hard Boiled.

Other honorable mentions go to the Matrix as well.

 

[Jay]

Things like the Pirates films, the LotR films... basically the super-big budget, large-scale films that are often planned as a trilogy before the first film is even released.

Epics? I'm all over that.

Gladiator? Braveheart? Kingdom of Heaven? awwww yeaaaaaaaaaahHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[Gryfter]

Personally? I'd choose T2 over those but they all have merit.

My personal favorite? Hard Boiled.

Other honorable mentions go to the Matrix as well.

Oh hell yeah!

 

[@Li3n]

Die Hard >>>> Aliens > Terminator 2

Dammit, i forgot about Die Hard....though i wouldn't use more then two > myself...

And i was so ready to go all ALIENS BIATCH!!!! up in here.

Also, Alien > Terminator in my book...

 

[Frank]

Alien is hardly an action film.

 

[@Li3n]

Alien is hardly an action film.

T1 kinda is more then an action film too...

 

[Frank]

Terminator is a sci-fi action movie to it's core. Lots of shoot-outs, etc. Alien is sci-fi horror. More about atmosphere than anything else.

 

[Shegokigo]

I'm going to have to rate the first 3 Rambos above Terminator 2.

Mostly because I think Stallone > Arnold. Also because Terminator 2 gets massive point deductions for having a Proto-Shia Lebouf character in it every few minutes and Sarah Connor gets less than half the screentime action.

 

[Frank]

Madness.

Mainly on Stallone being better than Arnold. Arnold's movies were always more fun than Stallone's.

But you know what, I think that was part of the charm of John Conner. Just how much of an irritating little shit he was compared to how important he would turn out to be. Come on, that dipshit scene in T2 was wonderfully douchey.

Sarah Conner might not have had as much screen time, but T2 Sarah Conner eats T1 Sarah Conner alive in awesomeness though her cameo in T3 as a coffin full of guns can't be overlooked.

 

[Shegokigo]

I really gotta disagree on Stallone vs Arnold. Why? Because Stallone didn't do the "kiddy sell out" movies (with the one exception in 2003). Also, the big films against each other? I go Stallone again.

Rambo/Rocky > Terminator/Conan (That's considering that the Barbarian genre is one of my favorites)

As for your second comment, that'd be like saying that was the charm of Sam Wicky (or whatever Shia's Transformers character name was) or his Constantine character, or his Indiana Jones 4 character. It's just not going to convince me that the film was better for having them in it.