I couldn't find weather or not it was legal to carry a firearm on a college campus in Alabama but for the most part of the us it is illegal so I'm assuming it is in Al as well. Do you think she was worried about breaking the law when she went in their and killed people? hell no! It doesn't matter if it was against the law or not to carry a firearm onto a campus in Alabama that woman was going to do it regardless. A "Gun Free" zone only applies to people that follow the law. if you are a criminal are you going to not bring a gun because it's a "gun free" zone? That's like going to a store and they have a sign up that says "No Robbing" yeah like that's going to work. The only thing that is prevented by "gun free" zones is a law abiding citizens right to protect themselves, or a third party. In other words, I believe that was incredibly narrow minded of you.I was gonna ask why she had a gun in a goddamn college campus then I realized it was Alabama.
I couldn't find weather or not it was legal to carry a firearm on a college campus in Alabama but for the most part of the us it is illegal so I'm assuming it is in Al as well. Do you think she was worried about breaking the law when she went in their and killed people? hell no! It doesn't matter if it was against the law or not to carry a firearm onto a campus in Alabama that woman was going to do it regardless. A "Gun Free" zone only applies to people that follow the law. if you are a criminal are you going to not bring a gun because it's a "gun free" zone? That's like going to a store and they have a sign up that says "No Robbing" yeah like that's going to work. The only thing that is prevented by "gun free" zones is a law abiding citizens right to protect themselves, or a third party. In other words, I believe that was incredibly narrow minded of you.I was gonna ask why she had a gun in a goddamn college campus then I realized it was Alabama.
not trying to make it a gun argument really. I should be more clear. Basically it is reduce to human nature. This teacher seems unstable and no one really look much into it (even student complain some and other faculty) she is brilliant (according to her peers and graduate from Harvard) in her field and probably very skilled and knowledgeable. She didn't get what she wants (tenure) and decides to snap and kill her co-workers. What else is there? What solution do you suggest? On one side I guess people could keep an closer eye on each other and tell big brother when you think they are going to have issues but then it might cross into privacy.You guys are worse than the ones who instantly make it about video game violence or some shit. Can't we just focus on the fact that somebody went nuts and now people are dead without turning it into the same stupid gun argument again?
"RIIICHAAARDS!"I don't think these faculty member really thought a brilliant eccentric professor could just snap and start shooting people.
Sweet an open position at Alabama. Time to prep my CV.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_ala_university_shooting
Suspect is in custody, a woman. Apparently the shooting happened during a biology faculty meeting. I'm thinking jilted lover. Any other guesses?
"RIIICHAAARDS!"I don't think these faculty member really thought a brilliant eccentric professor could just snap and start shooting people.
An Alabama university professor accused of fatally shooting three colleagues at a faculty meeting this week shot her younger brother dead at their home in the Boston suburbs more than 20 years ago, but records of it are missing, police said Saturday.
Amy Bishop shot her brother in the chest in 1986, Braintree police Chief Paul Frazier said at a news conference. She fired at least three shots, hitting her brother once and hitting her bedroom wall, before police took her into custody at gunpoint, he said.
Before Bishop could be booked, however, the police chief back then called officers and told them to release her to her mother, Frazier said. The shooting of the brother, Seth Bishop, was logged as an accident, but detailed records of the shooting have disappeared, he said.
\\"The report's gone, removed from the files,\\" he said.
The Harvard-educated neurobiologist who became an assistant professor at the Alabama school in 2003 has been charged with capital murder, and other charges are pending.
Police said a 9 mm gun was found in a restroom in the science building on the University of Alabama's Huntsville campus, where the shootings occurred Friday afternoon.
She was taken Friday night in handcuffs to the county jail, and said as she got into a police car: \\"It didn't happen. There's no way. ... They are still alive.\\"
District Attorney Ron Broussard said he did not think Bishop has a lawyer. Her husband, James Anderson, was detained and questioned Friday, though he has not been charged.
Ray Garner, a spokesman at the Huntsville campus, said Bishop had been denied tenure — a type of job protection afforded academics — months ago, and this was to be her last semester.
Some have said the professor, who students said was bright but had difficulty explaining difficult concepts, opened fire because of a dispute over the issue.
Students' assessments of Bishop varied. Some recalled an attentive, friendly teacher, while others said she was an odd woman who couldn't simplify difficult subjects for students. Sammie Lee Davis, the husband of a tenured researcher who was killed, said his wife had described Bishop as \\"not being able to deal with reality\\" and \\"not as good as she thought she was.\\"
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Davis said his wife was a tenured researcher at the university. In a brief phone interview, Davis said he was told his wife was at a meeting to discuss the tenure status of another faculty member who got angry and started shooting.
Davis' wife, Maria Ragland Davis, was among those killed, along with Gopi K. Podila, chairman of the biological sciences department, and another faculty member, Adriel Johnson.
Bishop had created a portable cell incubator, known as InQ, that was less expensive than its larger counterparts. She and her husband had won $25,000 in 2007 to market the device.
Andrea Bennett, a sophomore majoring in nursing and an athlete at UAH, said a coach told her team that Bishop had been denied tenure, which the coach said may have led to the shooting.
Bennett described Bishop as being \\"very weird\\" and \\"a really big nerd.\\"
\\"She's well-known on campus, but I wouldn't say she's a good teacher. I've heard a lot of complaints,\\" Bennett said. \\"She's a genius, but she really just can't explain things.\\"
It was not clear if anyone at the campus of Bishop's bother's shooting.
Frazier said people who worked for the police department then remember the shooting of Bishop's brother and he planned to meet with the district attorney over the possibility of launching a criminal investigation into the report's disappearance.
The former police chief, John Polio, said Saturday in an interview at his home that he was astonished at any allegation of a coverup. He said he didn't call officers to tell them to release Bishop.
\\"There's no coverup, no missing records,\\" he proclaimed.
Attempts by The Associated Press to track down addresses and phone numbers for Bishop's family in the Braintree area weren't immediately successful Saturday. The current police chief said he believed her family had moved away.
Well, she is a genius so it wasn't tied to her. I don't understand the shooting of her brother tho. Now sure how you accidentally shot your brother THREE times. Once, yes, two.... that is pushing it, but three?? unless it is an automatic weapon set to burst fire (3 shots per pull usually) well..... that is no accident IMO.She was also a suspect in a 1993 mail-bombing! http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/15/alabama.shooting/index.html?hpt=T1
Holy fuck! How was this woman able to stay free and own guns?
Well, she is a genius so it wasn't tied to her. I don't understand the shooting of her brother tho. Now sure how you accidentally shot your brother THREE times. Once, yes, two.... that is pushing it, but three?? unless it is an automatic weapon set to burst fire (3 shots per pull usually) well..... that is no accident IMO.[/QUOTE]She was also a suspect in a 1993 mail-bombing! http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/15/alabama.shooting/index.html?hpt=T1
Holy fuck! How was this woman able to stay free and own guns?
Because these are the days when you CANNOT JUDGE. You hatemonger.She was also a suspect in a 1993 mail-bombing! http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/15/alabama.shooting/index.html?hpt=T1
Holy fuck! How was this woman able to stay free and own guns?
Well, she is a genius so it wasn't tied to her. I don't understand the shooting of her brother tho. Now sure how you accidentally shot your brother THREE times. Once, yes, two.... that is pushing it, but three?? unless it is an automatic weapon set to burst fire (3 shots per pull usually) well..... that is no accident IMO.[/QUOTE]She was also a suspect in a 1993 mail-bombing! http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/15/alabama.shooting/index.html?hpt=T1
Holy fuck! How was this woman able to stay free and own guns?
Was it an autoshotty? most civilian base shot gun you actually have to cock it after each fire. So if she accidentally shot her brother on the 2nd shot, it has to be "intentional" (I put into quotes since it was deemed accidental)It was a shotgun. Only the second blast hit the brother. The first went into a wall, the third into the ceiling.
Well, she is a genius so it wasn't tied to her. I don't understand the shooting of her brother tho. Now sure how you accidentally shot your brother THREE times. Once, yes, two.... that is pushing it, but three?? unless it is an automatic weapon set to burst fire (3 shots per pull usually) well..... that is no accident IMO.[/QUOTE]She was also a suspect in a 1993 mail-bombing! http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/15/alabama.shooting/index.html?hpt=T1
Holy fuck! How was this woman able to stay free and own guns?
Was it an autoshotty? most civilian base shot gun you actually have to cock it after each fire. So if she accidentally shot her brother on the 2nd shot, it has to be "intentional" (I put into quotes since it was deemed accidental)[/QUOTE]It was a shotgun. Only the second blast hit the brother. The first went into a wall, the third into the ceiling.
In this case that would be just as bad since this WAS a professor!We're probably going to implement a gun law here in AZ that will allow Profs. to carry concealed firearms.
In this case that would be just as bad since this WAS a professor![/QUOTE]We're probably going to implement a gun law here in AZ that will allow Profs. to carry concealed firearms.
In this case that would be just as bad since this WAS a professor![/QUOTE]We're probably going to implement a gun law here in AZ that will allow Profs. to carry concealed firearms.
In this case that would be just as bad since this WAS a professor![/QUOTE]We're probably going to implement a gun law here in AZ that will allow Profs. to carry concealed firearms.
In this case that would be just as bad since this WAS a professor![/QUOTE]We're probably going to implement a gun law here in AZ that will allow Profs. to carry concealed firearms.
To be honest though, getting to a tenure point professorship position at any university is borderline with your chances of becoming a pro-athlete. Actually I think the chances of someone who's good at football are far better at going pro than someone who's good at science getting a tenured professor position. I give Fade and Mind Detective mad props for getting where they are.The start-up I work for was created because a female professor was denied tenure. She fought tooth-and-nail to transfer her grants to the private sector and found a company. I guess she wasn't creative enough to come up with the "shoot people" course of action.
To be honest though, getting to a tenure point professorship position at any university is borderline with your chances of becoming a pro-athlete. Actually I think the chances of someone who's good at football are far better at going pro than someone who's good at science getting a tenured professor position. I give Fade and Mind Detective mad props for getting where they are.[/QUOTE]The start-up I work for was created because a female professor was denied tenure. She fought tooth-and-nail to transfer her grants to the private sector and found a company. I guess she wasn't creative enough to come up with the "shoot people" course of action.
To be honest though, getting to a tenure point professorship position at any university is borderline with your chances of becoming a pro-athlete. Actually I think the chances of someone who's good at football are far better at going pro than someone who's good at science getting a tenured professor position. I give Fade and Mind Detective mad props for getting where they are.[/QUOTE]The start-up I work for was created because a female professor was denied tenure. She fought tooth-and-nail to transfer her grants to the private sector and found a company. I guess she wasn't creative enough to come up with the "shoot people" course of action.
Accused campus killer Amy Bishop was a devotee of Dungeons & Dragons - just like Michael “Mucko” McDermott, the lone gunman behind the devastating workplace killings at Edgewater Technology in Wakefield in 2000.
http://eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/cu...&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=EJ364547
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_60/353-D-D-Therapy
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2008/09/teaching-kids-t/
These are some links the author needs to read. The first is an in-depth study of the effects of Roleplaying and the effects it has on emotional stability. SURPRISE! No correlation.
The second has to do with doctors who use D&D as therapy for kids and adults who have suffered illnesses.
And last, the link talks about Roleplaying and children and how they are so compatible.
These are great reads (even though the first is really nothing more than a link to the book information) and are ACTUAL facts and not fear-mongering to put blame where no blame is necessary. The blame lies solely with the woman who did the shooting and nobody else.
Although I do place blame on the author of the article for not doing her job correctly and relying on hearsay and personal opinions to color her report a distinct shade of yellow.
-David Nihsen
To be fair, Dave, this was her source for the article http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.aspHow silly of us! This is because she played D&D!!!
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1233150
Accused campus killer Amy Bishop was a devotee of Dungeons & Dragons - just like Michael “Mucko” McDermott, the lone gunman behind the devastating workplace killings at Edgewater Technology in Wakefield in 2000.
To be fair, Dave, this was her source for the article http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp[/QUOTE]How silly of us! This is because she played D&D!!!
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1233150
Accused campus killer Amy Bishop was a devotee of Dungeons & Dragons - just like Michael “Mucko” McDermott, the lone gunman behind the devastating workplace killings at Edgewater Technology in Wakefield in 2000.
To be fair, Dave, this was her source for the article http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp[/QUOTE]How silly of us! This is because she played D&D!!!
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1233150
Accused campus killer Amy Bishop was a devotee of Dungeons & Dragons - just like Michael “Mucko” McDermott, the lone gunman behind the devastating workplace killings at Edgewater Technology in Wakefield in 2000.
a person with antisocial disorders
Well, I guess there is some correlation...she played D&D!!!
Why don't you just cast a haste spell? Fighters r dum.It's true, D&D will make you a ruthless killing machine. I don't know how many times I've almost gone off the deep end, waiting for my turn at combat to come around again.
Why don't you just cast a haste spell? Fighters r dum.[/QUOTE]It's true, D&D will make you a ruthless killing machine. I don't know how many times I've almost gone off the deep end, waiting for my turn at combat to come around again.
Why don't you just cast a haste spell? Fighters r dum.[/QUOTE]It's true, D&D will make you a ruthless killing machine. I don't know how many times I've almost gone off the deep end, waiting for my turn at combat to come around again.
Why don't you just cast a haste spell? Fighters r dum.[/QUOTE]It's true, D&D will make you a ruthless killing machine. I don't know how many times I've almost gone off the deep end, waiting for my turn at combat to come around again.
Awww, pretending to not be one while showing you know too much about it*rolls a natural 20 on twin atomic wedgies to the both of you*
*****NERDS!!*****
That'd be Tasha's (uncontrolled) hideous laughter. Yarrrr!*pays wizard to cast mordenkainen's hideous laughter on Krisken*
That'd be Tasha's (uncontrolled) hideous laughter. Yarrrr![/QUOTE]*pays wizard to cast mordenkainen's hideous laughter on Krisken*
Awww, pretending to not be one while showing you know too much about it [/QUOTE]*rolls a natural 20 on twin atomic wedgies to the both of you*
*****NERDS!!*****
Hi, welcome to Halforums! You must be new here.Didn't this thread use to be about some lady going postal?
Short answer: NoYou guys are worse than the ones who instantly make it about video game violence or some shit. Can't we just focus on the fact that somebody went nuts and now people are dead without turning it into the same stupid gun argument again?