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And the pirate tears are delicious.

Microsoft plans to ban one million before the year is out

And 1.2 billion utterances of the word "FUCK" go unheard by the world at large.

Ah, how I love being a PC gamer.
I can :arg: before I buy all I want.

*deep breath*

Shegokigo said:

*deep breath*

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She's got a point.

Good of MS to crack down on user violations.

Lying Bastard;298116][quote=Shegokigo said:

*deep breath*

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She's got a point.

Good of MS to crack down on user violations.[/QUOTE]
Not sure what you meant by your agreement, but I'm 99.9999% sure Shego was loling at the suckers who were dumb enough to mod their consoles, and got burned by console lock-in.

Oh, I just thought it was laughing at people who got nailed doing something wrong.

Idiots who pirate a brand-new released game on RELEASE day deserve an idiots "death".

It's interesting how this thread kind of dovetails into Cuyval Dar's posts in the Modern Warfare 2 post. The review he links talks about how the people producing the game barely gave an afterthought to the PC version game and concentrated heavily on the console version. I think this is a good reason why, they can track and shut down piracy on a console, but can't on PC.

Just a thought.

I have exactly zero sympathy for people who get caught pirating games like this. I'm sure it says right in the EULA that everyone agrees to that if you pirate games, then they have the right to do this or probably even worse.

I especially love how the one guy was saying he might get a PS3 instead. Like Sony WON'T do this as well.

Shegokigo said:

Idiots who pirate a brand-new released game on RELEASE day deserve an idiots "death".

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Yeah, that's pretty moronic.

You pirate before release day. That's the whole point of pirating.

Geez, 600k?

That's... a lot of mod chips.

Nice

600k less "fuck you *** lolz ur gay retard hur hur" on Xbox Live.

My Xbox was one of those banned, but I live in China, and I have zero options for buying "legit"--I believe my Xbox 360 actually came from Japan. There is literally no way for me to buy a real copy of MW:2 or whatever else since it isn't released here. I can simply go to the gameshop and pick up the copy they have which is going to be very likely pirated. This isn't just a problem for China either. Lots of countries in Asia/SE Asia don't have access to legit copies and are invariably screwed.

Pojodan said:

Geez, 600k?

That's... a lot of mod chips.

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According to Ars, its up to 1 million.

Terrik said:

My Xbox was one of those banned, but I live in China, and I have zero options for buying "legit"--I believe my Xbox 360 actually came from Japan. There is literally no way for me to buy a real copy of MW:2 or whatever else since it isn't released here. I can simply go to the gameshop and pick up the copy they have which is going to be very likely pirated. This isn't just a problem for China either. Lots of countries in Asia/SE Asia don't have access to legit copies and are invariably screwed.

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Not to be insensitive, but if you live in China you're pretty much screwed, period.

What's that supposed to mean? 0_o

Terrik said:

What's that supposed to mean? 0_o

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I get the feeling he's never had Chinese food.

Pojodan;298255][quote=Terrik said:

My Xbox was one of those banned, but I live in China, and I have zero options for buying "legit"--I believe my Xbox 360 actually came from Japan. There is literally no way for me to buy a real copy of MW:2 or whatever else since it isn't released here. I can simply go to the gameshop and pick up the copy they have which is going to be very likely pirated. This isn't just a problem for China either. Lots of countries in Asia/SE Asia don't have access to legit copies and are invariably screwed.

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Not to be insensitive, but if you live in China you're pretty much screwed, period.[/QUOTE]

I think it's a vicious cycle thing.

The Asian market is less attractive to software publishers because of the rampant piracy. As a result, publishers are less inclined to distribute their legit products to Asia, which allows piracy to gain a stronger foothold. Rinse and repeat.

Bowielee said:

It's interesting how this thread kind of dovetails into Cuyval Dar's posts in the Modern Warfare 2 post. The review he links talks about how the people producing the game barely gave an afterthought to the PC version game and concentrated heavily on the console version. I think this is a good reason why, they can track and shut down piracy on a console, but can't on PC.

Just a thought.

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Except that they're only taking away the option to play the pirated game online, on official servers, something that you can't do on the PC in the first place.

And i hear on local forums that alternatives to Xbox Live already exist...

Yeah I heard about it too, it's called---

Edit: On second thought, maybe naming it isnt such a good idea.... *whistles*

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At anyrate, I'd just like to say that I *wish* I could buy them legit, but I have no avenue to do so. Id love to play online, but what I'll likely end up doing is buying a new laptop and then simply play games over steam..in this way I can buy legitimately without the need for the game to be actually offered here....of course that doesnt solve my Xbox problem but its better than nothing.

General Specific said:

I have exactly zero sympathy for people who get caught pirating games like this. I'm sure it says right in the EULA that everyone agrees to that if you pirate games, then they have the right to do this or probably even worse.

I especially love how the one guy was saying he might get a PS3 instead. Like Sony WON'T do this as well.

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I just love how he was acting like he was the victim, and that his loyalty to Microsoft was shattered by them banning him. He just pirated 600 pounds worth of games, after all.

Not really news to anybody, but most systems are sold with very little profit, and they recoup the costs on games. Go ahead and move to the PS3...see how much fun it is trying to mod those

Also, the title is wrong, what got banned is the console, the accounts are fine, if they get a new console they can keep using that account (although i understand that your achievements could go away) just fine. Which makes sense seeing how the account = money, while banning the console = more sales as they buy new ones...

Not really news to anybody, but most systems are sold with very little profit, and they recoup the costs on games.

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That would be "at a loss" if you're talking about recouping costs... and it's been long enough that it might not be at a loss anymore... and it's not like MS will have trouble getting money to develop the next gen console, so if they're making a profit it's hard to feel sorry for them not getting the extra money from games.

I thought they lost money per console.....

While we can't know, the production price for each console has to eventually go down enough for them to make a profit, unless the drop the price each time under the cost.

mod. can you merge with mine?

http://www.halforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10549

I did post first muhahhahhah

Yeah, old thread is old.


And as I stated in the other one..no sympathy for the idiots.

I can "see" (at least the reason behind it) that some people would "hack" their console so they can backup their games. The disc DOES scratch pretty easily (especially when you turn the 360 sideway. There was many reports of scratching) which can render the disc useless (of course the SMART thing was to lay it flat but hey..... that is tooooooooo logical)

but I am guess these people are rare and the main reason is to run pirate games.

I am curious on how does Microsoft figure this out. I bet one of the update probably check the pathing of the circuit and stuff since the mod usually override the "protection circuit"??? (not sure but that is how PS2 was modded when I got mine modded to play Japanese games.

You gotta be pretty dumb pirate to go online on a console.

These aren't pirates, these are wannabes. And they deserve it.

Chibibar said:

I can "see" (at least the reason behind it) that some people would "hack" their console so they can backup their games. The disc DOES scratch pretty easily (especially when you turn the 360 sideway. There was many reports of scratching) which can render the disc useless (of course the SMART thing was to lay it flat but hey..... that is tooooooooo logical)

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NXE brought with it the ability to rip the games to your hdd only requiring the disc to quickly check that you actually have the game.

Terrik said:

My Xbox was one of those banned, but I live in China, and I have zero options for buying "legit"--I believe my Xbox 360 actually came from Japan. There is literally no way for me to buy a real copy of MW:2 or whatever else since it isn't released here. I can simply go to the gameshop and pick up the copy they have which is going to be very likely pirated. This isn't just a problem for China either. Lots of countries in Asia/SE Asia don't have access to legit copies and are invariably screwed.

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This is the only legitimate thing I've ever heard on the other side of this subject.

GasBandit said:

You gotta be pretty dumb pirate to go online on a console.

These aren't pirates, these are wannabes. And they deserve it.

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Once again, the only thing that happened was that their consoles aren't allowed to go online anymore (or install games on the HDD from that console, but as they can install them from another console and then put the HDD back it's probably not that big a deal)... and as MS apparently banned people that just had it modded but played no pirated games recently not going online would be just as if they had gotten banned...

Dave;298530][quote=Terrik said:

My Xbox was one of those banned, but I live in China, and I have zero options for buying "legit"--I believe my Xbox 360 actually came from Japan. There is literally no way for me to buy a real copy of MW:2 or whatever else since it isn't released here. I can simply go to the gameshop and pick up the copy they have which is going to be very likely pirated. This isn't just a problem for China either. Lots of countries in Asia/SE Asia don't have access to legit copies and are invariably screwed.

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This is the only legitimate thing I've ever heard on the other side of this subject.[/QUOTE]

it is the closest legit reason so far, but I believe MS is just going by "mod the console = we ban you" since it is against their end user license agreement (probably standard boilplate. I read the PS3 version and there is a clause of tampering and the right to refuse service/void warranty. I'm sure the MS has the same thing.

The question is did he pay for content, while it does suck monkey balls that its not available it stills violates it, kind of a lose lose situation.

Well, at the very least, I was paying for an Xbox live subscription, but that's essentially as far as I could possibly go.