Actors approached for live-action remake of Akira leaked

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This is old shit; with new actors being thrown into the rumor mill. This project was canned years ago, it keeps getting revived, like the Evangelion live-action movie. I don't think they know what to do with it.
 
I must have missed that one.
It was like 6 or 7 months ago. I think it basically boiled down to three groups:

- Those who thought the cartoon cast weren't white because everything in the world was modeled/inspired by East Asian and Native cultures, and that it was insulting to white wash the cast and deprive Asian Americans of leading roles (which we can all agree are few and far between).

- Those that agreed with the first group in principle, but figured that the Hollywood suits cast white people for the majority of the roles because they (the execs, not the posters) thought it would bring up the grosses and that this was an okay compromise to have the story be told.

- Those that thought there was no way to prove that they weren't white, because they were cartoon characters and most people would self-identify due to the exaggerated animation style anyway. This happens a lot in anime too, where many anime characters tend to look white because of the exaggerated style, despite the fact that like half of all anime is set in Japan, where the non-Japanese/non-native population is only 1.22% (and most of those are Korean or Chinese). They also don't have this identity problem in Japan, where it's usually more clear where they are from due to accents and such.

The thread wasn't enough to get locked or anything (I think) but it was a lot more intense than we usually get outside the Politics sub-forum.
 
I still don't understand why the fans consider all these remakes and adaptations as some kind of insult. For me, an adaptation is good or is bad and that's it. Next please.
 
I still don't understand why the fans consider all these remakes and adaptations as some kind of insult. For me, an adaptation is good or is bad and that's it. Next please.
If the adaption HAD been good, it would have been less insulting. Instead, it was terrible... and it's STILL getting a sequel because the foreign gross was incredibly high. Personally, I'm just glad that M. Night is ether going to be removed from the project or at least tightly controlled, as he's finally lost his Protection from Editors status.
 
Last Airbender was bad. Transformers 2 was bad, Dragon Ball was incredibly bad. I understand that. But I forgot about those movies almost immediately. I never considered any of those as an insult.
 
Last Airbender was bad. Transformers 2 was bad, Dragon Ball was incredibly bad. I understand that. But I forgot about those movies almost immediately. I never considered any of those as an insult.
Yeah, but just how big of a fan would you call yourself? The guys and gals who do fan art, write fan fiction, go to conventions in costume... they put a lot of themselves into these series. These series matter to them. When they see someone do a half-assed attempt at re-creating their favorite series, while simultaneously removing the things that made it unique and special, they understandably get upset.
 
Do you do any of those things?
I am a big fan of comics, manga and anime. I skipped classes in college to see Dragon Ball Z. I know everything about that series, and still don't see the problem with bad adaptations.
 
Last Airbender was bad. Transformers 2 was bad, Dragon Ball was incredibly bad. I understand that. But I forgot about those movies almost immediately. I never considered any of those as an insult.
Bad products usually damage a brand and affect what happens to that brand... if it does badly the brand will likely be put on hiatus and you can't enjoy watching the film again, and if it does well you'll get more bad films that you can't enjoy.
 
Do you do any of those things?
I am a big fan of comics, manga and anime. I skipped classes in college to see Dragon Ball Z. I know everything about that series, and still don't see the problem with bad adaptations.
No, I don't, but I have many friends who do for other franchises (mainly Star Wars and Warhammer 40k). This is how they've explained it to me and I agree with their thinking.

Bad products usually damage a brand and affect what happens to that brand... if it does badly the brand will likely be put on hiatus and you can't enjoy watching the film again, and if it does well you'll get more bad films that you can't enjoy.
Basically this. When an installment is bad and flops, it can kill a franchise. When a bad installment succeeds, it can take the franchise in a direction that alienates the original community that supported the product.
 
When did that happened? Star Wars is still here, Airbender is still here, Transformers is still here.
 
When did that happened? Star Wars is still here, Airbender is still here, Transformers is still here.
Star Wars is still here because somebody other than Lucas is helping write these days and has opened itself to other writers who are more than welcome to add tot he universe. Besides, I'd hardly call the prequels TERRIBLE movies.

Airbender is barely here. The new series is only getting 12 episodes unless it gets great ratings and the movie is only getting a sequel because it did well in Asia (mainly due to it's effects). Even then it's being heavily supervised and has to make up for the short comings of the first movie.

And the less said about Transformers the better. The second movie was worse than the first, Transformers Animated got canceled without resolving the plot and Transformers Prime is on a digital channel that many services don't carry. If it's not on a standard cable package, it might as well not be on.
 
And what about Akira?, There is no new anime, no new manga, or anything new about Akira. So the choice is a possibly (very) bad movie or nothing at all. I prefer to give the movie a chance.
 
In my personal case, it has nothing to do with brand decay (though it's a valid point), it's a lack of trust in hollywood being able to make a movie worthy of the source material. Akira is a lot more than a story about kids blowing shit up with their minds or whiny emo kids with superpowers (lot of examples with this one), but considering the treatment a lot of comic book movies have gotten, there's a good chance that's what we'll end up with, and I'd rather they just do something else.

If they really want to make a movie that's only about whiny goths destroying cities with psychic abilities, they should make an X-1999 movie starring Robert Pattinson as Kamui.
 
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In my personal case, it has nothing to do with brand decay (though it's a valid point), it's a lack of trust in hollywood being able to make a movie worthy of the source material. Akira is a lot more than a story about kids blowing shit up with their minds or whiny emo kids with superpowers (lot of examples with this one), but considering the treatment a lot of comic book movies have gotten, there's a good chance that's what we'll end up with, and I'd rather they just do something else.

If they really want to make a movie that's only about whiny goths destroying cities with psychic abilities, they should make an X-1999 movie starring Robert Pattinson as Kamui.
I might have to hurt you.
Plus X-1999 have a lot of Manga and back story that the OVA/Movie doesn't really cover.
 
If the adaption HAD been good, it would have been less insulting. Instead, it was terrible... and it's STILL getting a sequel because the foreign gross was incredibly high.
I went to imdb and Google and find nothing on the announcement of a sequel to the Shammy movie; only people's predictions and talk of the sequel to the animated series, Legend of Korra. Source please.

Also, I agree with your sentiment and having a problem with what's going on with the Last Airbender, and the likely fucking up trying to do Akira if they ever get it off the ground (unlikely), but saying it matters because of fanart/cosplay/fanfic is BS.
 
I went to imdb and Google and find nothing on the announcement of a sequel to the Shammy movie; only people's predictions and talk of the sequel to the animated series, Legend of Korra. Source please.
You do appear to be right. I thought they were simply waiting for the next tax year to start before they announced it, but they may be holding off because one of the actors (kid who plays Sokka) is involved with the Twilight series and they need to see if they can get her to commit.

Also, I agree with your sentiment and having a problem with what's going on with the Last Airbender, and the likely fucking up trying to do Akira if they ever get it off the ground (unlikely), but saying it matters because of fanart/cosplay/fanfic is BS.
I never said it matters BECAUSE of those things. I said those things show it matters to them, which is why they get upset when bad adaptions come out.
 
Airbender is barely here. The new series is only getting 12 episodes unless it gets great ratings and the movie is only getting a sequel because it did well in Asia (mainly due to it's effects). Even then it's being heavily supervised and has to make up for the short comings of the first movie.
Actually, last I heard they ordered a full 21 episode season, and also already greenlit a second season. Can't confirm though.
 

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Last Airbender was bad. Transformers 2 was bad, Dragon Ball was incredibly bad. I understand that. But I forgot about those movies almost immediately. I never considered any of those as an insult.
When people love a show or something like it a huge amount, they'll develop their own vision for it. What would they do if someone gave them creative control of it. This gives us crappy fanfiction and people with unrealistic expectations and unwillingness to compromise their vision of exactly how it should be. But I bet you already knew that... I just felt like typing.
 
I haven't seen anything saying that all.
Like I said, can't confirm. Heard it from a friend of a friend kind of thing. I trust them on it though. Partially out of naive hope, and partially because they're actually out there in the animation industry and thus have more connections than I do.
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After some digging, I found ONE article that mentions Nickelodeon ordering another 14 episodes on top of the original 12. Can't speak for its authenticity.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/03/08/the-last-airbender-legend-of-korra-the-creators-speak/

Nickelodeon had picked up “Korra” for 12 episodes but recently decided to order 14 more shows.
The way the creators talk about it in the interview in that same article seems to be at odds with that same number though.


On the original series we did our best to make it cinematic with a big immersive world. And on this series because it’s a tighter stretch of episodes–just 12 episodes–but Mike and I wrote all of them, there’s really no filler.
 
Meh... it'll likely mean it'll have more than one arc. Which is good, because the original show managed just fine with it's multi-arc style.
 
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