Alarm sounded over game futures
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Consoles aren't going anywhere. The serve the people who ether can't afford to upgrade every other year or don't have the technical savvy to do the work themselves. Also, when was the last time you heard of a console getting a virus and then needing to be re-formatted, requiring all of it's basic operation software to be re-installed? Consoles are a safer, less frustration filled alternative to PC gaming.
It's also about having set parameters for system requirements: A game made for a console will work on all of that type of console. A game made for PCs may or may not work on another PC, even if you have the same system specs.
It's also about having set parameters for system requirements: A game made for a console will work on all of that type of console. A game made for PCs may or may not work on another PC, even if you have the same system specs.
Oh no, what will I ever do if EA can't afford sports licenses? Horror and dismay!
so publishers who focus primarily on consoles might have to evolve or die. they knew the market was risky when they signed up. big deal.
I never understood this... i already used 3-4 computers for 4+ years each before being unable to actually play new games, and none of them was over 1000$... and after 4 years console graphics are way behind... this gen seems to be lasting longer, but so do the PCs, coz 3D graphics are finally reaching a point where improving them doesn't give as much of an impression.AshburnerX said:
But this wasn't about consoles going away, but about them ruining the industry and how we should burn them at anti-console rallies...
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Olorin
One of the main problems with Western developers seems to be that they want to make each of their games the most impressive new thing around. So they use huge budgets to make the most realistic graphics, special effects and physics, instead of making a much cheaper game that may not look as fancy but is still fun to play.
Most Japanese games have much smaller budgets and therefore don't have to sell millions of copies to make a profit.
Most Japanese games have much smaller budgets and therefore don't have to sell millions of copies to make a profit.
THIS is the problem, this right here. Profit margins wouldn't be so razor thin if they didn't try to push the technology with every game, just to please the people who need the best and shiniest to justify their hobby.Olorin said:
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Gill Kaiser
No kidding. I've had the same keyboard, mouse and speaker system for a decade or more, in which time I've almost fully upgraded my PC three times and my monitor once.
Butt piracy?
I'm sorry, that was beneath me.
I'm sorry, that was beneath me.
That's because most of us realize that piracy is only a serious threat to the small, independent developers who need to sell every copy just to stay in business. It's an annoyance to everyone else.bhamv3 said:
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I dunno... some people don't mind buying the same console more than once when it dies.AshburnerX said:
I don't know that I agree that consoles are "safer" ... there's just fewer of them about, so you end up with a smaller number of total failures.
My NES and SNES never had problems. My PSX only had problems after 10 years. My original Xbox never had problems. None of my handhelds ever had problems. The only console of mine that ever had a problem was my PS2 and that's because it was from the first run, which was notorious for their improper manufacturer. Once I got it replaced with one of the slim PS2s, I never had a problem with it.General Fuzzy McBitty said:
The only system notorious for problems right now is the X360 and that's because Microsoft isn't willing to up the price of the console to include whatever innovations would stop the problem. They seem to think it's cheaper just to replace/fix the old ones whenever they break down. I don't believe I've ever heard of problems with the PS3 or Wii.
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Re: Consoles vs PC
I agreee completely, there are less failures because at least when you buy a console it's a given it will run all games you buy for it in top notch shape, no better or worse than your peers, if it happens to be a multiplayer game. I ran into that problem with bioshock, that even if my old computer was able to 'run' the game, it was only at the lowest of low settings, and not without semi-freezing when any kind of light distorting effects were used, say plasmids. So I actually considered getting a 360 just for it.
Re: Game's future
The root of the problem from the consumer standpoint is that it doesn't make sense to spend such large amounts of money to catch up with the latest technologies, the latest gen. The problem from the industry's standpoint is that consumers aren't buying the newest version of the game, the newest hardware as quickly as they were. So their focus on being the cutting edge is backfiring. So a paradigm shift is in order. Towards affordable platforms, digital distribution of content, making games that appeal to a broader demographic. It all seems to be already in motion. Just hope it comes to fruition.
I agreee completely, there are less failures because at least when you buy a console it's a given it will run all games you buy for it in top notch shape, no better or worse than your peers, if it happens to be a multiplayer game. I ran into that problem with bioshock, that even if my old computer was able to 'run' the game, it was only at the lowest of low settings, and not without semi-freezing when any kind of light distorting effects were used, say plasmids. So I actually considered getting a 360 just for it.
Re: Game's future
The root of the problem from the consumer standpoint is that it doesn't make sense to spend such large amounts of money to catch up with the latest technologies, the latest gen. The problem from the industry's standpoint is that consumers aren't buying the newest version of the game, the newest hardware as quickly as they were. So their focus on being the cutting edge is backfiring. So a paradigm shift is in order. Towards affordable platforms, digital distribution of content, making games that appeal to a broader demographic. It all seems to be already in motion. Just hope it comes to fruition.
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That's not the only (or even the major market, in my opinion) that consoles serve. Consoles also are attractive to people who want a dedicated machine that's self contained and guaranteed to quickly and easily play a game that you can (and this is I think very much a biggie) flop back on your couch and play. And play for 10 minutes if you like. That's me. I love the casual nature of a console. Plus it doesn't seem to suck you in and away from your family so much as a PC game does, which is partially due to the way we shoehorn our desks out of the way somewhere. Of course, there are ways to make a PC do all of that, but the console is relatively inexpensive and does it already. It's not necessarily tied to tech savvy.AshburnerX said:
What some people are forgetting, though, with the advent of consoles being online creatures and homebrewing, consoles are falling into the same pitfalls that used to make them superior to PCs. Some games are being shipped buggy with the promise of patches via download at a later time and with homebrew, you can get viruses on your consoles now.
Yes, but you can only get one if your willing to risk it. There is nothing forcing you to use homebrew on a console and I'm fairly certain it violates the warranty.Bowielee said:
No different then being stupid enough to download a virus in the first place on your PC. I don't see any difference between using torrents and such that end up containing viruses on your PC and jailbreaking your console and getting a virus. There's really not a distinction there.AshburnerX said:
The buggy releases still stand just the same. because console developers know that they can ship now, patch later, they're starting to follow the same model that PCs have.
figmentPez
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Consoles now have OS updates, which both fix and break things.
Hardware/software incompatibility, sort of. It's arguable for all the various versions of PS3 that have different levels of backwards compatibility, as well as for the Xbox 360 "Arcade" that has no hard drive to support certain features. Also, with the iPhone 3G vs 3GS, some games don't run very well on the slower 3G. Yes, the iPhone isn't a console, but it's a definite possibility for console generations to start to blur like handheld generations have. Speaking of which, the Nintendo DSi is incompatible with certain DS games.
Console gamers used to mock PC gamers for having noisy gaming rigs. Haven't heard that argument in a while.
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Hardware/software incompatibility, sort of. It's arguable for all the various versions of PS3 that have different levels of backwards compatibility, as well as for the Xbox 360 "Arcade" that has no hard drive to support certain features. Also, with the iPhone 3G vs 3GS, some games don't run very well on the slower 3G. Yes, the iPhone isn't a console, but it's a definite possibility for console generations to start to blur like handheld generations have. Speaking of which, the Nintendo DSi is incompatible with certain DS games.
Console gamers used to mock PC gamers for having noisy gaming rigs. Haven't heard that argument in a while.
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