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Anti-rape Drinkware

Dec 28, 2012#1

David

http://www.indiegogo.com/DrinkSavvy

In short: This is drinkware that will change color if it comes into contact with GHB. The eventual goal is to convince bars, clubs and colleges to adopt this product.

What do you guys think? Will this eliminate drug-assisted rapes? Merely create a false sense of security? Or, let's say this makes slipping drugs into drinks impossible, will rapists simply resort back to more violent methods?

Dec 28, 2012#2

blotsfan

I definitely think its a good thing. I might be wrong but I would bet that a lot of people who would roofie someone wouldn't want to actually violently attack someone to subdue them.

Of course I'm sure some scumbag is already working on a new drug that won't be detected.

Dec 28, 2012#3

David

That was my major thinking, which other drugs out there could be used to knock someone out that this won't detect? Are they potentially more damaging than the drugs that are currently most common? I would think for this issue the best possible defense is constant vigilance. Never accept a drink that a total stranger hands you, never continue drinking from a cup if it had left your sight at any point, ect. That said, this couldn't hurt as a secondary line of defense, make it standard issue in bars, clubs, and plastic party cups. If your cup suddenly changes color or big bold red "DON'T DRINK" text appears on it, you know not to drink. But people shouldn't become reliant on it with a "This makes me completely immune to drug rape" attitude, which is the idea that the seller seems to push for his product.

Dec 28, 2012#4

SpecialKO

If it works (and the false positive rate is low), this seems a good thing, at least as you say, a secondary line of defense.

Dec 28, 2012#5

Adam

The biggest vector for date rape appears, at least to me, to be alcohol, not GHB.

Dec 28, 2012#6

ThatNickGuy

Not to be pessimistic, but I imagine it'll be like when a computer or game console company says their product is uncrackable. Eventually, someone will figure a way around it.

Dec 28, 2012#7

Yoshimickster

This is a great idea! Buying it at stores would be awkward, but its the price one must pay for safety.

Dec 28, 2012#8

Dirona

Adam said:
The biggest vector for date rape appears, at least to me, to be assholes.

Fixed.

I think you could get a false sense of security, but at the same time it would be nice to have a second line of defense aside from constant paranoia.

Dec 28, 2012#9

Krisken

Shame it doesn't look like they are going to make their goal.

Dec 28, 2012#10

Charlie Don't Surf

Yeah, the #1 cause of rape is rapists

Dec 28, 2012#11

Adam

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Yeah, the #1 cause of rape is rapists

That tautology is tautological, dude.

Dec 28, 2012#12

Timmus

Anything that makes it more difficult for a rapist to rape or even help to catch them is a good thing but I agree that it's no substitute for vigilance and friends looking out for each other.

Sadly this is the way the world is at present.

Dec 29, 2012#13

Bowielee

As someone who's actually been drugged in a bar, I'd have to say that this is a good thing.

On the other hand, I was drinking beer out of the bottle, so this wouldn't have helped in that situation either.

Dec 29, 2012#14

Timmus

Regrettably the best option is:

Dec 29, 2012#15

Bubble181

As someone who's been drugged as well (they put LSD in my joint, I admit it's something else

), eh.
Yes, this'd work as a secondary or tertiary line of defense...But a) I can name at least 4 date rape drugs that aren't GHB (or alcohol), b) these'll be easily faked (cups made to look like these but don't respond, or in the evil version, even contain the drug themselves), c) it'll create a huge false feeling of security.
You know what good anti-rape drinkware is? Non-alcoholic beer, in closed bottles with sippy nipples or whatever you call them in English. the type of drinking nozzles on a bottle of Aquarius - and non-opening, of course.

Dec 29, 2012#16

Chippy

Bubble181 said:
You know what good anti-rape drinkware is? Non-alcoholic beer, in closed bottles with sippy nipples or whatever you call them in English. the type of drinking nozzles on a bottle of Aquarius - and non-opening, of course.

lol you're always wrong on this. The best anti-rape drinkware is a big ole' glass of don't be a rapist juice.

Dec 29, 2012#17

WasabiPoptart

Timmus said:
Regrettably the best option is:

Unfortunately true. I never let my drink (which is usually soda anyway) out of my sight when I'm out. If I do leave it behind then I get a fresh one once I return to the bar. Expensive? It can be, though I have had plenty of bartenders give me soda for free.

Dec 30, 2012#18

David

WasabiPoptart said:
though I have had plenty of bartenders give me soda for free.

Dec 30, 2012#19

Bubble181

Chippy said:
lol you're always wrong on this. The best anti-rape drinkware is a big ole' glass of don't be a rapist juice.

Not being a rapist won't stop you from being raped. Not having rapists around you will, but you can't know that for sure, now can you?

Dec 30, 2012#20

strawman

They met their goal.

Now we need someone to develop anti-rap drinkware.

Dec 30, 2012#21

Chippy

stienman said:
They met their goal.

Now we need someone to develop anti-rap drinkware.

Dec 30, 2012#22

Bowielee

I don't know why, but I find that gif hilarious.

Dec 30, 2012#23

Chippy

Because white tears are hilarious.

Dec 30, 2012#24

Ravenpoe

Bowielee said:
I don't know why, but I find that gif hilarious.

It reminds me of those Maury episodes where they announce "You are NOT the father"

Dec 31, 2012#25

Jax

I get sad too when people start air-basketballing

Dec 31, 2012#26

D

Dubyamn

I was hoping the anti-rape drinkware was going to be a heavy mug that could be used as a mace.

But yeah I think it's a good thing even if there are work arounds because every obstacle you put in front of a criminal means that a certain % of criminals will just go "Ahhh fuck it" and if the drinkware is nontoxic then it's a lessening of the number of rapes while being completely voluntary.

Dec 31, 2012#27

Charlie Don't Surf

white tears own

Jan 2, 2013#28

GasBandit

Dubyamn said:
I was hoping the anti-rape drinkware was going to be a heavy mug that could be used as a mace.

Wasn't that an item in WoW?

Chippy said:
lol you're always wrong on this. The best anti-rape drinkware is a big ole' glass of don't be a rapist juice.

What an amazing cure for any crime! The best anti-theft system is don't be a thief! The best burglar alarm is stop all that burglarizing!

If only condescension actually solved anything, what a utopia we'd have.

Jan 2, 2013#29

Chippy

GasBandit said:
Wasn't that an item in WoW?

What an amazing cure for any crime! The best anti-theft system is don't be a thief! The best burglar alarm is stop all that burglarizing!

If only condescension actually solved anything, what a utopia we'd have.

those all sound great to me, scooter!

Jan 3, 2013#30

Officer_Charon

Not to me.

Jan 3, 2013#31

GasBandit

forladiesbyladies.com said:
This protester’s sign cracks me up. “Hey rapists, stop raping… my body my call.” Yeah, like that is going to get a point across. I wonder if any rapists saw this sign and suddenly thought, “My god, shes right. What have I done?” Doubtful.

Jan 3, 2013#32

Espy

I really though this thread was about Anti-RAP drinkware and I was so intrigued.

But I was wrong.

So wrong.

Jan 3, 2013#33

Chippy

Jan 3, 2013#34

Charlie Don't Surf

Chippy said:
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this gif is how I post every thread here, the endzone is the "Post New Thread" button

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