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Blackest Night
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Would have worked better if they didn't remind us how the red rings replace their hearts at the start of the issue. The original foreshadowing when the RL showed up was enough.
I felt that Larfleeze was portrait too pathetic compared to how powerful he was portrayed before as the sole Orange wielder. He need to sound less scared and more desperate... and maybe put up a little fight even.I felt so sorry for Agent Orange
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Naw, i thought it was perfect for him. amde me laugh quite a bit too. he had all that power, of course...and it was all being spent out with the blues tryin to get their rings. And not only that, all those beings be absorbed and made constructs were the ones coming back at him. They really fucked him up.
I see him as an insane coward with a napolean complex, so he got power, and ran with it, but when something came back at him that wasnt easy to just overpower, he ran like a little bitch. It was great (and I love the larfleeze character, by the way. One of the best characters to come out of this thing, for me). And the way he was running reminded me of a cartoon you would see on Saturday morning and had me cracking up at the panel.
I see him as an insane coward with a napolean complex, so he got power, and ran with it, but when something came back at him that wasnt easy to just overpower, he ran like a little bitch. It was great (and I love the larfleeze character, by the way. One of the best characters to come out of this thing, for me). And the way he was running reminded me of a cartoon you would see on Saturday morning and had me cracking up at the panel.
Also, the orange lantern oath is great:
"MINE!"
Also, the orange lantern oath is great:
"MINE!"[/quote]
Exactly, which is why i felt desperation would be better then that kind of fear...
NONONO, IT'S MINE, YOU CAN'T HAVE ITTTTTTTTTTT............ WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH....... etc.
The running at the end of the previous issues was hilarious, and it would have worked as a looney tunes reference either way imo.
But the guy took on the Guardians and the entire GL Corps, and even before he had the orange light stole from the Guardians... at least he could have put up a little fight (while running all the way).
Shannow
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He was useless though. Two colors are needed, and there was absolutely no one around to help him. So the off panel between last issue of when the show up and him running is one supposed to lead you to know he gothis ass royally kicked by all those he killed...and there is a whole corps full of them. heh
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OMFG OMFG OMFG I picked up Blackest Night #5 today on the way to work
wtf!??!?! There is no hope now, none. Superman? Wonder Woman, all of the heroes who have died in the past, even though they are alive now, are again dead and now Black Lanterns?!!?
AND the very last panel of the issue? Two black rings soaring toward Hal and Barry..since they've died in the past
WTF!?!?!?!?!!? Even the combined light of the various colored Corps wasn't enough to stop Nekron and now this?! Kyle's gone, Ion's gone, soon Hal will be, as well as practically the entire main roster of the Justice League..
THIS is how you write a mini series dangit! This is what Final Crisis should have been!
AND the very last panel of the issue? Two black rings soaring toward Hal and Barry..since they've died in the past
WTF!?!?!?!?!!? Even the combined light of the various colored Corps wasn't enough to stop Nekron and now this?! Kyle's gone, Ion's gone, soon Hal will be, as well as practically the entire main roster of the Justice League..
THIS is how you write a mini series dangit! This is what Final Crisis should have been!
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RISE!!!
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If you enjoy an incoherent story that just jumps between panels with no reason, sure. Or the fact you needed to buy a thousand different titles to fully get the entire events story..
Final Crisis was good.[/QUOTE]
Are you trolling for lulz?
Because I WILL scissor kick you in the ear.
not wanting to turn this into a FC thread, so i'll keep it short.
I really liked the darkseid-themed storyline, and the death of the new gods. it felt properly
apocalyptic and 'oh shit its the end times'. the new gods are dead! anti life equation! epic shit occurring!
the monitor/mandrakk storyline on the other hand just felt... bleh. and didn't help the rest of the series by turning darkseid into
a second banana villain by the last damn issue. 'great, he's been defeated... now meet the REAL villain!'
bleh.
blackest night on the other hand, has been fairly awesome, despite some vague crisis fatigue setting in. its becoming increasingly obvious that the only books that really need following are the
main book and the GL books. WHICH IS HOW IT SHOULD BE.
I really liked the darkseid-themed storyline, and the death of the new gods. it felt properly
apocalyptic and 'oh shit its the end times'. the new gods are dead! anti life equation! epic shit occurring!
the monitor/mandrakk storyline on the other hand just felt... bleh. and didn't help the rest of the series by turning darkseid into
a second banana villain by the last damn issue. 'great, he's been defeated... now meet the REAL villain!'
bleh.
blackest night on the other hand, has been fairly awesome, despite some vague crisis fatigue setting in. its becoming increasingly obvious that the only books that really need following are the
main book and the GL books. WHICH IS HOW IT SHOULD BE.
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This, xOver9000
Darkseid was great, even if he felt a little underplayed, and the whole thing with Batman was cool.
The love story between two Monitors was..retarded at best. Really? Come on.. Thats so opposite what the original Crisis did right.. One Monitor, trying to save the multiverse, none of this "oh no I've been confined to being a human, i miss mah girl!" bullshit.
I think if FC hadn't of jumped panel to panel, it would have been a better story. I waited till all the issues were released and bought them all/read them all at the same time. I couldn't follow the story. One moment the JLA were fighting off Darkseids minions, the next it's some backstory of the Question or some technobabble from the Monitors that referenced shit in other titles or previous stories I didn't get.
Which sucks cause thats the great thing about a Crisis, you usually don't need an extensive back knowledge of the DCU. I went into the original Crisis only knowing a handful of characters back in the day and the story was awesomesauce omfg, and I could easily follow new characters that were new to me.
BN is far superior as a storyline than FC, I read 3 books to follow it (the mini title itself) and GL/GLC, which I read already anyway so I'm good. Are some of the other titles worth reading? Sure, maybe. I know Batman BN looks interesting but I really doubt I need to read it to follow the storyline of BN.
And trust me, DC used to be shit when it came to crossovers, remember Zero Hour? Huh? that mini destroyed the LoS for me, I had to read like 10+ titles to follow the story
...oh my.
that. was. EPIC.
holy hell. that whole damn issue qualifies as a Crowning moment of awesome.
and that final panel. holy crap.
that. was. EPIC.
holy hell. that whole damn issue qualifies as a Crowning moment of awesome.
every. single. black, lantern. in the universe.
johns coming back, and bringing all hell with him
GREEN LANTERN GANTHET!
'barry allen of earth. you have the ability to instill great hope
and that final panel. holy crap.
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Mother... of... Odin...
Green_Lantern
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Unholy awesomeness from space *__*...oh my.
Green_Lantern
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Green_Lantern
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maybe he died and come back to life? Like you know... Superman.
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maybe he died and come back to life? Like you know... Superman.[/QUOTE]
Superman never actually "died".
When a Kryptonian is near a yellow sun, they act as a solar battery. Their unique genetic makeup allows this solar collecting to power their abilities, flight, super strength etc.
In the battle with Doomsday, he literally ran out of power. And since they kept him in a tomb, away from direct sunlight, he was just in a very death-like state. Once his body started to recover and regain energy he was fine.
figmentPez
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Eh, that depends on what you're reading. In the novelization the whole "super coma" thing was very fleshed out, but in the comic the Eradicator says outright that Superman was really and truly dead, and that the circumstances that allowed him to come back wouldn't easily repeat themselves.
As for Santa Claus, of course he died, Tim Allen killed him and took his job.
maybe he died and come back to life? Like you know... Superman.[/quote]
Superman never actually "died".
When a Kryptonian is near a yellow sun, they act as a solar battery. Their unique genetic makeup allows this solar collecting to power their abilities, flight, super strength etc.
In the battle with Doomsday, he literally ran out of power. And since they kept him in a tomb, away from direct sunlight, he was just in a very death-like state. Once his body started to recover and regain energy he was fine.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm... i haven't read the comic, but i recall reading somewhere that his soul met papa Kent etc.
And if you read BN#5 it's pretty much canon that he died.
Green_Lantern
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maybe he died and come back to life? Like you know... Superman.[/quote]
Superman never actually "died".
When a Kryptonian is near a yellow sun, they act as a solar battery. Their unique genetic makeup allows this solar collecting to power their abilities, flight, super strength etc.
In the battle with Doomsday, he literally ran out of power. And since they kept him in a tomb, away from direct sunlight, he was just in a very death-like state. Once his body started to recover and regain energy he was fine.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm... i haven't read the comic, but i recall reading somewhere that his soul met papa Kent etc.
And if you read BN#5 it's pretty much canon that he died.[/QUOTE]
HE DIED FOR YOUR SINS!
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This is true somewhat. He did have several meetings with Pa Kent, some weird coma like near-death dreams (the whole white light, meeting your loved ones, etc), a lot of Pa Kent from his army days etc.
But they easily proved he didnt die when Superboy Prime and New Krypton came into being, showing off how their powers alter either in a Red Sun or Yellow Sun environment so its easy to see.
Green_Lantern
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HOLY SHIT
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HOLY SHIT
not to rain on your parade but i gotta ask, only because i've seen a lot of people amazed by this, was this really that surprising? sinestro corps war ended with the black lantern battery forming around the corpse of the anti-monitor, it being a black lantern seemed a given.
Green_Lantern
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HOLY SHIT
not to rain on your parade but i gotta ask, only because i've seen a lot of people amazed by this, was this really that surprising? sinestro corps war ended with the black lantern battery forming around the corpse of the anti-monitor, it being a black lantern seemed a given.
It is not the surprise, is just the situation has a high Holy-Shit-Quotient
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