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Couple Refused Marriage Licence For Being Different Races

#1

Fun Size

Fun Size

No, seriously.

In other news, this has just been nominated as the most ridiculous use of "For the kids", 2009.


#2

Hylian

Hylian

:22:


#3

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

"I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
*facepalm*


#4

Krisken

Krisken

I posted this in the politics forum, but I can understand why it wouldn't get seen there. Absolutely deplorable for a judge in this day to do such a thing.


#5

ElJuski

ElJuski

I'm trying really hard not to scream from frustration and anger right now.


#6



lafftaff

We all knew this was coming:



#7



Armadillo

DEVIL'S ADVOCATE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE

Is he required to marry any couple who comes before him?

/DEVIL'S ADVOCATE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE


#8

Fun Size

Fun Size

Yes.


#9



ThatNickGuy

*twitch, twitch*

Urge to kill...rising.


#10



Armadillo

You know, I'm not sure he is. I'd have to check the LA state statutes on that, and I just ain't got the time right now.

So, if it turns out that he is not legally obligated to marry an interracial couple (and as a libertarian, I think that's within his rights, stupid as it may be), then there's nothing that can be done from a legal standpoint.

So just plaster his name everywhere and let the world know what a racist piece of scum he is.


#11



Morgoth

"I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
*facepalm*

Yeah, I laughed when read that he used the ol' "I have black friends" so it's okay for me to tell racist jokes" excuse.

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You know, I'm not sure he is. I'd have to check the LA state statutes on that, and I just ain't got the time right now.

So, if it turns out that he is not legally obligated to marry an interracial couple (and as a libertarian, I think that's within his rights, stupid as it may be), then there's nothing that can be done from a legal standpoint.

So just plaster his name everywhere and let the world know what a racist piece of scum he is.[/QUOTE]

I believe you are correct sir, however, like you mentioned it isn't going to blow over well for him, especially being a publicly elected official.

Isn't this more or less the same situation as a restaurant owner refusing services due to discrimination? In other words, they might have the right to refuse service, but it's not going to a whole hell of a lot in giving them a good reputation.


#12

Covar

Covar

You know, I'm not sure he is. I'd have to check the LA state statutes on that, and I just ain't got the time right now.

So, if it turns out that he is not legally obligated to marry an interracial couple (and as a libertarian, I think that's within his rights, stupid as it may be), then there's nothing that can be done from a legal standpoint.

So just plaster his name everywhere and let the world know what a racist piece of scum he is.[/QUOTE]

actually one could make the arguement that marriage is an implied right, and thus falls under the jurisdiction of the fifteenth amendment.


#13

D

Dubyamn

You know, I'm not sure he is. I'd have to check the LA state statutes on that, and I just ain't got the time right now.

So, if it turns out that he is not legally obligated to marry an interracial couple (and as a libertarian, I think that's within his rights, stupid as it may be), then there's nothing that can be done from a legal standpoint.

So just plaster his name everywhere and let the world know what a racist piece of scum he is.[/QUOTE]

He's a judge which means that it is his job to dole out the law fairly and with out bias. He has no standing to refuse to serve an interracial couple.

I honestly thought that maybe a justice of the peace was like a notary public who while having been trained or whatever by the government still wasn't a government employee. Nope Guy is a fucking judge. Lowest judge on the totem pole but a judge none the less.


#14



Armadillo

You know, I'm not sure he is. I'd have to check the LA state statutes on that, and I just ain't got the time right now.

So, if it turns out that he is not legally obligated to marry an interracial couple (and as a libertarian, I think that's within his rights, stupid as it may be), then there's nothing that can be done from a legal standpoint.

So just plaster his name everywhere and let the world know what a racist piece of scum he is.[/QUOTE]

actually one could make the arguement that marriage is an implied right, and thus falls under the jurisdiction of the fifteenth amendment.[/QUOTE]

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
I think you mean the Fourteenth Amendment: :D

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
I don't know that there's a 14th Amendment case to be made here, since interracial marriage isn't against the law in Louisiana. That's why I asked if there is a law requiring that justices of the peace marry anyone who can have a legally recognized marriage. If so, then he's in violation of the law. If not, this couple can't do anything about it, they should go find someone who WILL marry them, and this JOP's reputation will be subsequently shot to shit.

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You know, I'm not sure he is. I'd have to check the LA state statutes on that, and I just ain't got the time right now.

So, if it turns out that he is not legally obligated to marry an interracial couple (and as a libertarian, I think that's within his rights, stupid as it may be), then there's nothing that can be done from a legal standpoint.

So just plaster his name everywhere and let the world know what a racist piece of scum he is.[/QUOTE]

He's a judge which means that it is his job to dole out the law fairly and with out bias. He has no standing to refuse to serve an interracial couple.

I honestly thought that maybe a justice of the peace was like a notary public who while having been trained or whatever by the government still wasn't a government employee. Nope Guy is a fucking judge. Lowest judge on the totem pole but a judge none the less.[/QUOTE]

Again though, is it against the law for a JOP in Louisiana to refuse to marry two people for any reason? If not, then it sucks for this couple, but there's nothing they can do about it. I'm not looking for personal reactions to this story (I agree that it sucks, and the judge is fat and his butt stinks), I'm looking for a law.


#15

Covar

Covar

you're right

:eek:

VOTING IS IMPORTANT KIDS!


#16

Fun Size

Fun Size

You know, I'm not sure he is. I'd have to check the LA state statutes on that, and I just ain't got the time right now.

So, if it turns out that he is not legally obligated to marry an interracial couple (and as a libertarian, I think that's within his rights, stupid as it may be), then there's nothing that can be done from a legal standpoint.

So just plaster his name everywhere and let the world know what a racist piece of scum he is.[/quote]

actually one could make the arguement that marriage is an implied right, and thus falls under the jurisdiction of the fifteenth amendment.[/quote]

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
I think you mean the Fourteenth Amendment: :D

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
I don't know that there's a 14th Amendment case to be made here, since interracial marriage isn't against the law in Louisiana. That's why I asked if there is a law requiring that justices of the peace marry anyone who can have a legally recognized marriage. If so, then he's in violation of the law. If not, this couple can't do anything about it, they should go find someone who WILL marry them, and this JOP's reputation will be subsequently shot to shit.

---------- Post added at 06:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:31 PM ----------

You know, I'm not sure he is. I'd have to check the LA state statutes on that, and I just ain't got the time right now.

So, if it turns out that he is not legally obligated to marry an interracial couple (and as a libertarian, I think that's within his rights, stupid as it may be), then there's nothing that can be done from a legal standpoint.

So just plaster his name everywhere and let the world know what a racist piece of scum he is.[/quote]

He's a judge which means that it is his job to dole out the law fairly and with out bias. He has no standing to refuse to serve an interracial couple.

I honestly thought that maybe a justice of the peace was like a notary public who while having been trained or whatever by the government still wasn't a government employee. Nope Guy is a fucking judge. Lowest judge on the totem pole but a judge none the less.[/quote]

Again though, is it against the law for a JOP in Louisiana to refuse to marry two people for any reason? If not, then it sucks for this couple, but there's nothing they can do about it. I'm not looking for personal reactions to this story (I agree that it sucks, and the judge is fat and his butt stinks), I'm looking for a law.[/QUOTE]

He didn't refuse to marry them. He refused to issue them a marriage license. It's subtle, but it's important. It seems to me that this is like the Secretary of State not issuing a woman a driver's license because they just don't drive as well.


#17



Armadillo

He didn't refuse to marry them. He refused to issue them a marriage license. It's subtle, but it's important. It seems to me that this is like the Secretary of State not issuing a woman a driver's license because they just don't drive as well.
Wow, I missed that little distinction. Well then yeah, I don't see what legal standing he has.


#18

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

I just can't get pass the fucking "use my bathroom", It is probably the sickest part of this that he actually thinks that this a valid argument.


#19



Morgoth

I just can't get pass the fucking "use my bathroom", It is probably the sickest part of this that he actually thinks that this a valid argument.

"I even let them eat an' drink at my house! 'Course it is left-over food and I only let them drink out of the hose, but by golly that's better than my neighbor Jeb!"


#20



SeraRelm

Now take this news story and make it about two men or two women.


#21

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Now take this news story and make it about two men or two women.
I'm pretty sure that most people in the States (and Canada) believe that for every gay coupled that gets married we're one day closer to the apocalypse.


#22

Fun Size

Fun Size

Now take this news story and make it about two men or two women.
I'm pretty sure that most people in the States (and Canada) believe that for every gay coupled that gets married we're one day closer to the apocalypse.[/QUOTE]

No, just a sadly vocal minority that has maintained power for way too long now.


#23



Iaculus

Now take this news story and make it about two men or two women.
I'm pretty sure that most people in the States (and Canada) believe that for every gay coupled that gets married we're one day closer to the apocalypse.[/QUOTE]

For the premilennial dispensationalists, shouldn't that be a good thing?

The Left Behind series has a readership in the high millions, after all, as horrifying as that fact may be.


#24

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

"I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
*facepalm*
Is this in a related article or something? I've read through the OP article and either I'm going blind or its been edited since your post, because I do not see this quote.


As for the OP itself, I don't have anything to say that hasn't already been said so I'll just add one more facepalm to the list.

*facepalm*


#25

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

"I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
*facepalm*
Is this in a related article or something? I've read through the OP article and either I'm going blind or its been edited since your post, because I do not see this quote.


As for the OP itself, I don't have anything to say that hasn't already been said so I'll just add one more facepalm to the list.

*facepalm*[/QUOTE]

:confused:

I don't know how... but I think I readed another article about the same thing... but is not the same one from the OP.


#26

Fun Size

Fun Size

Wow. They changed the entire article, but kept the link.


#27



WolfOfOdin

I can't wait to see someone try to defend this as "a issue of keeping marriage sacred". It's disgusting, but you know damn well it'll happen soon.

Also, in response to Sera; I don't care who marries/dates/sleeps with who or what they do behind closed doors, nor should anyone else.


#28

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Is it the 1950's? Wha? I guess we also shouldn't touch mixed race babies 'cause their momma will abandon them if she smells our scent on them. For Pete's sake.


#29

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Wow. They changed the entire article, but kept the link.
Oh, thank god! I was thinking that I might halucinating again.


#30



Iaculus

Wow. They changed the entire article, but kept the link.
Oh, thank god! I was thinking that I might halucinating again.[/QUOTE]

Welly, you were doing that as well, but the edit was more pertinent, so...


#31

AshburnerX

AshburnerX

I can't wait to see someone try to defend this as "a issue of keeping marriage sacred". It's disgusting, but you know damn well it'll happen soon.
Wasn't that the argument against mixed race marriages in the 50's?


#32

ZenMonkey

ZenMonkey

Wow. They changed the entire article, but kept the link.
To be fair that does happen a lot with wire stories, I've noticed. I doubt it's specific to this story.

This (from the newer article) made me laugh:

"Perhaps he's worried the kids will grow up and be president."


#33



Steven Soderburgin

This (from the newer article) made me laugh:

"Perhaps he's worried the kids will grow up and be president."
G. damn


#34

Rob King

Rob King

Now take this news story and make it about two men or two women.
I'm pretty sure that most people in the States (and Canada) believe that for every gay coupled that gets married we're one day closer to the apocalypse.[/QUOTE]

First, I don't know if that's fair. There are a few backwards individuals, but I think Canada is doing pretty good when it comes to gay rights.

Second, I am so happy that you are using that avatar.

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This (from the newer article) made me laugh:

"Perhaps he's worried the kids will grow up and be president."
I was just about to reference that myself.

Although the editing-an-article-and-keeping-the-same-link thing concerns me every time I notice it happen. They might as well replace the 'delete' key with a memory hole.


#35

North_Ranger

North_Ranger

*takes a Magic Marker and writes "Justice of peace Bardwell" on a brick*


#36

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

:facepalm:

I just can't muster the words otherwise.


#37

Vagabond

V.Bond

"I have piles and piles of black friends....
:rofl:

Who says shit like that?


#38



Kitty Sinatra

A racially motivated serial killer with a stash of corpses in his back yard.


#39

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

Hopefully sooner rather than later this exact same story will be posted except with "for being the same sex", and america will collectively mock and ostracize the piece of shit backwards ass redneck that wouldn't marry two ladies.


#40

Green_Lantern

Green_Lantern

Hopefully sooner rather than later this exact same story will be posted except with "for being the same sex", and america will collectively mock and ostracize the piece of shit backwards ass redneck that wouldn't marry two ladies.
amen to that ;)


#41



Dusty668

Somehow this was the first thing I thought of.




"That's a hell of a thing..."


#42



SeraRelm

Hopefully sooner rather than later this exact same story will be posted except with "for being the same sex", and america will collectively mock and ostracize the piece of shit backwards ass redneck that wouldn't marry two ladies.
Thank you for repeating me.


#43

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Hopefully sooner rather than later this exact same story will be posted except with "for being the same sex", and america will collectively mock and ostracize the piece of shit backwards ass redneck that wouldn't marry two ladies.
:love:

Though sadly:

:flypig:

is more likely to happen first.


#44

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Now take this news story and make it about two men or two women.
I'm pretty sure that most people in the States (and Canada) believe that for every gay coupled that gets married we're one day closer to the apocalypse.[/QUOTE]

First, I don't know if that's fair. There are a few backwards individuals, but I think Canada is doing pretty good when it comes to gay rights.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, only a few, like for starters, our Prime Minister.


#45



Kitty Sinatra

oh snap!


#46

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Now take this news story and make it about two men or two women.
I'm pretty sure that most people in the States (and Canada) believe that for every gay coupled that gets married we're one day closer to the apocalypse.[/QUOTE]

First, I don't know if that's fair. There are a few backwards individuals, but I think Canada is doing pretty good when it comes to gay rights.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, only a few, like for starters, our Prime Minister.[/QUOTE]

I guess thanks for informing us. Here in the States it's been impressed that Canada is gay heaven.


#47

Shegokigo

Shegokigo

Yeah! I was told there were fields of froliking lesbians by the hundreds, maybe even thousands! I should cancel my vacation plans this year.... :eek:rly:


#48



Kitty Sinatra

It still is. But a lot of the changes are still new and haven't actually passed one of the toughest hurdles yet: surviving through a Conservative federal government.

As Frankie said, our current Prime Minister isn't gay-rights friendly. However, he has yet to win a majority government and thus hasn't had the power to confidently overturn the changes related to this issue. When he first gained power he made a half-assed attempt to overturn the gay marriage laws, but as an open vote (party members didn't have to toe the party line) and with every other party in Parliament supporting gay marriage the motion didn't have a chance; so it seemed to me like it was really just the Conservatives putting the issue behind them so they could move on and never bother addressing it again.

However, we won't really know what'll happen until the Conservatives win a majority, and maybe not until they win a second either.


#49

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Breaking news in this case this evening. The justice who refused the couple a marriage license has resigned.

Good riddance. And don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.


#50



Kitty Sinatra

but can the door knob get shoved up it?


#51

Shawn

Shawn

The justice of the peace is a racist idiot.
The couple is just looking for attention.


#52

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

The justice of the peace is a racist idiot.
The couple is just looking for attention.
I'm not sure about that second part. In the original news story I read, they didn't seem that attention hungry.

If I ran across that sort of racism, especially in a position like justice of the peace, I'd want to make sure it gets attention too.


#53

Rob King

Rob King

I agree with mr. thehun, who agrees with mr. Poe.


#54

Shawn

Shawn

If the justice of the peace was being honest when he said he would refer interracial couples to someone who would marry them then it makes me wonder why the couple just didn't report him then take his advice.

Yes the man is racist. Yes it's against the law to deny someone a marriage license because of who they choose to marry (with the exception of those bullshit same sex clauses). And I'm glad he resigned.
But if this ever happens to you... inform the authorities, have them deal with it, and don't get in front of a news team and cry about how horrible the whole ordeal was for you.


#55

Krisken

Krisken

If the justice of the peace was being honest when he said he would refer interracial couples to someone who would marry them then it makes me wonder why the couple just didn't report him then take his advice.

Yes the man is racist. Yes it's against the law to deny someone a marriage license because of who they choose to marry (with the exception of those bullshit same sex clauses). And I'm glad he resigned.
But if this ever happens to you... inform the authorities, have them deal with it, and don't get in front of a news team and cry about how horrible the whole ordeal was for you.
Because nothing would have happened if there wasn't an outrage over it. He'd still be judging, refusing marriages based on that bias.

That is how I see it, anyways.


#56



redapples

Hopefully sooner rather than later this exact same story will be posted except with \"for being the same sex\", and america will collectively mock and ostracize the piece of shit backwards ass redneck that wouldn't marry two ladies.
:love:

Though sadly:

:flypig:

is more likely to happen first.[/QUOTE]


Its looking that way, yes.


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