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All right, you bastard. Change back. Change back to your proper nickname immediately!

If not? Ohhhh, I don't really want to do this, but you leave me no choice.

Unless you change your nickname back, you can no longer ride the coattails of my fame.

Escusion is dead.

Why is there no "Grue" option?

I say we make up a new name for him.

Anagram: Queer Armpit Demon. FTW.

As the philosophogre Shrek says, "Change is good, Donkey."

who?

Charlie Don't Surf said:

who?

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And you! I want my lovely boehner back!

... That was you, wasn't it?

stienman said:

And you! I want my lovely boehner back!

... That was you, wasn't it?

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yeah, i wanted to change my name back to that actually when this debt ceiling stuff started up, but i decided not to.....

Charlie Don't Surf said:

yeah, i wanted to change my name back to that actually when this debt ceiling stuff started up, but i decided not to.....

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You chose wrong.

Charlie Don't Surf said:

who?

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Ouch.

I wonder if Dave will change my name to Constable Cockblock.

Frank said:

I wonder if Dave will change my name to Constable Cockblock.

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Maybe that could be your title?

Frank said:

I wonder if Dave will change my name to Constable Cockblock.

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Well there's a reason to dislike the po-lice if ever I heard one.

So...the Quotemander name goes JUST as Pokemon X/Y come out... It becomes Zero Esc...

Seems appropriate.

Zappit said:

So...the Quotemander name goes JUST as Pokemon X/Y come out... It becomes Zero Esc...

Seems appropriate.

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Wouldn't work because:

1. The whole name wouldn't have fit.
2. I was getting tired of the name for a while now, just hadn't thought of anything else.
3. I didn't pick Charmander. Even though it's one of my favorite Pokemon, I feel like I always go for Charmander, so I went with Squirtle when that point came.

Zero Esc said:

I went with Squirtle when that point came.

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I don't even know you anymore, man.

I think if I ever played Pokemon I'd pick the Grass types, just cause.

stienman said:

I don't even know you anymore, man.

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Gilgamesh said:

I think if I ever played Pokemon I'd pick the Grass types, just cause.

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I picked the Grass type as my starter for the new one, but after the first gym you get to pick one of the original starters and I felt like the Water type would best round out my team since three of them at the time were weak to Fire.

Zero Esc said:

Wouldn't work because:

1. The whole name wouldn't have fit.
2. I was getting tired of the name for a while now, just hadn't thought of anything else.
3. I didn't pick Charmander. Even though it's one of my favorite Pokemon, I feel like I always go for Charmander, so I went with Squirtle when that point came.

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Quoteuirtle Prime would be a mouthful.

Zappit said:

Quoteuirtle Prime would be a mouthful.

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Like Nick's prom night?

Gilgamesh said:

I think if I ever played Pokemon I'd pick the Grass types, just cause.

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Grass type starters:

Bulbasaur: Decent
Chikorita: Meh
Treecko: Decent
Turtwig: Mediocre
Snivy: Unconventional
Chespin: No idea

So, basically, if you pick the grass type starter, you actually have a good chance of getting something halfway decent.

bhamv3 said:

Grass type starters:

Bulbasaur: Decent
Chikorita: Meh
Treecko: Decent
Turtwig: Mediocre
Snivy: Unconventional
Chespin: No idea

So, basically, if you pick the grass type starter, you actually have a good chance of getting something halfway decent.

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Bulbasaur has five or six weaknesses, but is a fantastic annoyance Pokemon and in the first game it made the first two gyms real easy. Charmander for the challenge, of course.

Zero Esc said:

Bulbasaur has five or six weaknesses, but is a fantastic annoyance Pokemon and in the first game it made the first two gyms real easy. Charmander for the challenge, of course.

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Plus Venusaur's competitively viable, if you're running a sun team.

Still though, for starters, I will always have a soft spot for Mudkip.

... It's like they're trying to communicate, but I have no idea what you're saying...

Pokenese is another language.

Frank said:

Pokenese is another language.

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Indeed. Watch, for people who know about Pokemon, the following passage will actually make sense.

Dedicated stallbreaker strategies such as Tyraniboah had their heyday in generation 3, which was when stall teams were most common (usually with the SkarmBliss core, and often with other tanks such as Curselax and Swampert). Tyraniboah forgoes the usual direct physical attacking strategy and instead focuses on special attacks, such as Crunch and Thunderbolt, coupled with a fighting move such as Focus Punch. It's worth remembering that, back in generation 3, before the physical-special split, Crunch was powered by the pokemon's special attack stat, given its dark type. But that meant it was working off Tyranitar's base 95 special attack, rather than its base 134 attack stat, and thus significant EV investment had to be done to ensure Crunch could actually do any damage. However, the surprise factor usually meant Tyraniboah could rip stall teams apart, Thunderbolting opposing Skarmory and Suicune, while Focus Punching Blissey and enemy Tyranitar.

Ironically though, Tyranitar is itself an intrinsic part of stall strategies, particularly since its Sand Stream ability fits well with the Toxic/Sandstorm/Spikes tactic, commonly known as TSS. TSS uses the sandstorm and Toxic to rack up damage every round to the opponent, while also shuffling them around by using bulky phazers such as Skarmory and Suicune, with Whirlwind and Roar respectively. By forcing the opponent to take entry hazard damage constantly, it became easy to damage opposing Pokemon enough to get your own sweeper into play. Appropriately enough, Tyranitar could also serve this role, especially with a Dragon Dancing set, which could mitigate its speed problems while further boosting its already sky-high attack.

I tap a mountain and play Raging Goblin.

Frank said:

I tap a mountain and play Raging Goblin.

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Sorry bro, I'm running Circle of Prot: Red ;P

Gilgamesh said:

Sorry bro, I'm running Circle of Prot: Red ;P

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White deck, amirtie?

Always preferred UW or UG, myself. Or WG for casual play.

--Patrick

Nerds...

Let's go back to talk about something cool, like pokemon.

Nah.

I played everything but blue if I could help it. Never was a fan of blue.

I liked black/green :x

I played landless.

Dei said:

I liked black/green :x

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BG got fun later, when cards designed for it started to come out, but before they started making cards that catered to Y-builds*, you really had to work to make anything work that wasn't neighbors.

HCGLNS said:

I played landless.

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My absolute favorite deck is landless. It is also completely, horribly broken, and too expensive to build in the real world.

--Patrick
*e.g. WRB (see below)

PatrThom said:

Always preferred UW or UG, myself. Or WG for casual play.

--Patrick

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WG was unstoppable during the Protection from **** days.
UW was pretty brutal in tournament play most seasons.

Infinite Slivers 4 life.

Krisken said:

Infinite Slivers 4 life.

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One of the last decks I use to play before I quit the game.

Some where in my house I still have my flip deck. Freaks the kids out when I play it. Very useful in large multiplayer games.

Krisken said:

Infinite Slivers 4 life.

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That's why White was so awesome. A single Prot Vs Color card and you'd destroy entire Theme decks.

Gilgamesh said:

That's why White was so awesome. A single Prot Vs Color card and you'd destroy entire Theme decks.

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No, infinite slivers were colorless. Turn 1 Bird of Paradise, turn 2 Crystaline Sliver, Turn 3 Sliver Queen, Turn 4 infinite engine, Turn 5 you're dead.

Is Balance still restricted in some way?

HCGLNS said:

Is Balance still restricted in some way?

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Beats me. All I know is back when I played it I was thumping skulls pretty regular. I loved using Balance too, though. Besides, if that was going to happen I'd sack the goobers for 4 life a piece.

Krisken said:

No, infinite slivers were colorless. Turn 1 Bird of Paradise, turn 2 Crystaline Sliver, Turn 3 Sliver Queen, Turn 4 infinite engine, Turn 5 you're dead.

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Infinite Engine? I've never heard of that card.

Gilgamesh said:

Infinite Engine? I've never heard of that card.

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Yeah, I don't remember what cards I used to reduce the cost. It's been 10 years, ya know.

It sounds like you guys are speaking english of some sort, but I can't seem to make it out.

Krisken said:

Yeah, I don't remember what cards I used to reduce the cost. It's been 10 years, ya know.

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That's my point though, if it's done on turn four, unless it was a spell cast that would give infinite mana (not an artifact, enchantment, creature), it'd be destroyed on turn 4 by any good White deck. Also if your plan is to create an infinite number of creatures and kill someone a turn later, White always had a nice -Wipe the floor- card in every season.

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That's my point though, if it's done on turn four, unless it was a spell cast that would give infinite mana (not an artifact, enchantment, creature), it'd be destroyed on turn 4 by any good White deck. Also if your plan is to create an infinite number of creatures and kill someone a turn later, White always had a nice -Wipe the floor- card in every season.

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I'm not going to play "If I have it" with ya. I'm telling you, I won tournaments easily with the deck, against all variety of decks. Believe me or don't, I really don't care.

Krisken said:

I'm not going to play "If I have it" with ya. I'm telling you, I won tournaments easily with the deck, against all variety of decks. Believe me or don't, I really don't care.

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What I am saying, is that White (that was the point of the entire color, much like BLUE had the job of stopping spells from getting to the battlefield, Black used the dead to it's advantage, RED was all about direct damage and GREEN was about creature power) had a near counter for everything so getting a perfect hand was never really necessary to stop theme decks. Beating White took attrition and strategy, a one trick pony usually never did. This also comes from winning tournaments on a local and placing well at state run. I could go a step further and do a long list of major tournament wins and the decks they've been built around since 1995+ but that'd be a huge waste of time.

Simply put, you were playing -If I have it- because you're saying with the perfect hand in 5 turns you win. That's to be said about just about any major deck. Hell the Squirrel Nest deck could win in 5 turns with the perfect hand. That's not saying anything.

A long long long long time ago, I once traded for Plains.

Anyways, stupidity aside. Slivers 4 life.

Krisken said:

Anyways, stupidity aside. Slivers 4 life.

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Well said.

Gilgamesh said:

Infinite Engine? I've never heard of that card.

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Ashnod's Altar, maybe?
Or possibly Power Artifact?

--Patrick

Krisken said:

Yeah, I don't remember what cards I used to reduce the cost. It's been 10 years, ya know.

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This was the three-card combo that got me infinite slivers:

So tap one land to put out a sliver token. Tap the token to untap a land. Tap the land to create a token, etc etc etc.
Played the green spell that untapped all my creatures and usually had the sliver out that allowed everyone to attack on the first turn. Infinite death to everyone. It didn't always go off in time, but it was usually consistent. But I think they changed the rules later to where you couldn't tap tokens to use Earthcraft.

yup, that looks right. I'd usually enchant one of my duel lands with a Wild Growth as well.

Yeah that'd never fly against White or Blue.

It'd wreck Green, Black or Red for sure though.

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Yeah that'd never fly against White or Blue.

It'd wreck Green, Black or Red for sure though.

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I'm telling you, it did then. White and blue were just too slow at the time to do anything about it. Black discard had the best chance in that era.

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I'm telling you, it did then. White and blue were just too slow at the time to do anything about it. Black discard had the best chance in that era.

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On further inspection, that set combo isn't even within the same Season release. Meaning the only way you'd play a combo like that is a Type 1 tournament which is completely invalid outside of local play. So I can see how you could have destroyed people with it, then again, there are 2 combo instant win decks in Type 1 the entire concept is silly because in Type 1 you can combine cards from every single expansion into combos that were never meant for competitive play.

Also how is White or Blue too slow? Disenchant for White was 2 mana and Counter Spells for Blue were all within 2-3 mana. The combo would never hit the table/last long enough to work in a game against White or Blue. Unless you had a perfect hand and they had a shit one.

Still, I'm sure you had fun locally/with friends with that combo, I could see the viability.

EDIT: Rechecking my data shows that your combo actually was viable as a TYPE 2 deck during the RATH cycle. So that must have been fun during that season. Still not enough to stop a White or Blue deck that would have never let the QUEEN hit the table or stay there long enough for the combo, but still very nice.

Yeah, we still had type 1, dude. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I was never into the competitive scene, and back then I don't think they had restricted cards by expansions yet. I usually would pull that deck out during big group sessions. It made it less likely to be Counter Spelled or Disenchanted since they would be worrying about other players as well.

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Yeah, we still had type 1, dude. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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Yes, locally you can have Type 1, I know exactly what I'm talking about and wrote in detail the differences, I even acknowledged that your combo worked in Type 2 during the Rath cycle.

If you can't be bothered to read, don't call others ignorant.

Nerdfight!

Nah, I got bored. Let him think he's right. Not worth arguing about something from 10 years ago.


Now if you want to argue about some Android: Netrunner, I'm all in.

I'm being called a nerd by a guy with a chibi avatar and another with a dozen lantern rings. Pot, meet kettle.

There is nothing past 150.

After that it just becomes clear that you can make up a pokemon by smashing someone across the head with a glass bottle, and recording the first sound he makes.

"Arghbawha!"

Sounds like a fire type.

Krisken said:

Let him think he's right.

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Krisken said:

Black discard had the best chance in that era.

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Especially when combined with things like Diabolic Edict. Bleah.
Also with another card whose name I don't remember, but the illustration was a picture of the Weatherlight blasting something with a beam of some sort.

--Patrick

My buddy would use this in his discard deck. It was truly irritating.

Oh yeah. I decided a long time ago that decking someone was the most reliable way to defeat any other strategy. Toss in enough reset and removal, and anything will fall to being decked.
Also, there's something immensely satisfying about watching the other guy get more and more frustrated as he waits for his Teh Winnar combo to come up but you keep draining all of his cards into the graveyard.

--Patrick

I would totally Bronze Tablet that Sliver Queen card. And she would like it!