Demand: Quotemander Prime
- Thread starter ThatNickGuy
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BG got fun later, when cards designed for it started to come out, but before they started making cards that catered to Y-builds*, you really had to work to make anything work that wasn't neighbors.
My absolute favorite deck is landless. It is also completely, horribly broken, and too expensive to build in the real world.
--Patrick
*e.g. WRB (see below)
WG was unstoppable during the Protection from **** days.
UW was pretty brutal in tournament play most seasons.
One of the last decks I use to play before I quit the game.
That's why White was so awesome. A single Prot Vs Color card and you'd destroy entire Theme decks.
No, infinite slivers were colorless. Turn 1 Bird of Paradise, turn 2 Crystaline Sliver, Turn 3 Sliver Queen, Turn 4 infinite engine, Turn 5 you're dead.
Beats me. All I know is back when I played it I was thumping skulls pretty regular. I loved using Balance too, though. Besides, if that was going to happen I'd sack the goobers for 4 life a piece.
Infinite Engine? I've never heard of that card.
Yeah, I don't remember what cards I used to reduce the cost. It's been 10 years, ya know.
That's my point though, if it's done on turn four, unless it was a spell cast that would give infinite mana (not an artifact, enchantment, creature), it'd be destroyed on turn 4 by any good White deck. Also if your plan is to create an infinite number of creatures and kill someone a turn later, White always had a nice -Wipe the floor- card in every season.
I'm not going to play "If I have it" with ya. I'm telling you, I won tournaments easily with the deck, against all variety of decks. Believe me or don't, I really don't care.
What I am saying, is that White (that was the point of the entire color, much like BLUE had the job of stopping spells from getting to the battlefield, Black used the dead to it's advantage, RED was all about direct damage and GREEN was about creature power) had a near counter for everything so getting a perfect hand was never really necessary to stop theme decks. Beating White took attrition and strategy, a one trick pony usually never did. This also comes from winning tournaments on a local and placing well at state run. I could go a step further and do a long list of major tournament wins and the decks they've been built around since 1995+ but that'd be a huge waste of time.
Simply put, you were playing -If I have it- because you're saying with the perfect hand in 5 turns you win. That's to be said about just about any major deck. Hell the Squirrel Nest deck could win in 5 turns with the perfect hand. That's not saying anything.
Well said.
This was the three-card combo that got me infinite slivers:
So tap one land to put out a sliver token. Tap the token to untap a land. Tap the land to create a token, etc etc etc.
Played the green spell that untapped all my creatures and usually had the sliver out that allowed everyone to attack on the first turn. Infinite death to everyone. It didn't always go off in time, but it was usually consistent. But I think they changed the rules later to where you couldn't tap tokens to use Earthcraft.
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I'm telling you, it did then. White and blue were just too slow at the time to do anything about it. Black discard had the best chance in that era.
On further inspection, that set combo isn't even within the same Season release. Meaning the only way you'd play a combo like that is a Type 1 tournament which is completely invalid outside of local play. So I can see how you could have destroyed people with it, then again, there are 2 combo instant win decks in Type 1 the entire concept is silly because in Type 1 you can combine cards from every single expansion into combos that were never meant for competitive play.
Also how is White or Blue too slow? Disenchant for White was 2 mana and Counter Spells for Blue were all within 2-3 mana. The combo would never hit the table/last long enough to work in a game against White or Blue. Unless you had a perfect hand and they had a shit one.
Still, I'm sure you had fun locally/with friends with that combo, I could see the viability.
EDIT: Rechecking my data shows that your combo actually was viable as a TYPE 2 deck during the RATH cycle. So that must have been fun during that season. Still not enough to stop a White or Blue deck that would have never let the QUEEN hit the table or stay there long enough for the combo, but still very nice.
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I was never into the competitive scene, and back then I don't think they had restricted cards by expansions yet. I usually would pull that deck out during big group sessions. It made it less likely to be Counter Spelled or Disenchanted since they would be worrying about other players as well.
Yes, locally you can have Type 1, I know exactly what I'm talking about and wrote in detail the differences, I even acknowledged that your combo worked in Type 2 during the Rath cycle.
If you can't be bothered to read, don't call others ignorant.
