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Eh-hem - Firefly is Coming Back - Just Reruns

#1

Zappit

Zappit

http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/18/firefly.returns.ew/index.html?hpt=Sbin

That is all. But it's only reruns. Sorry.


#2



Jiarn

I hate you for the misleading title. Just sayin.


#3

Zappit

Zappit

I did only say it was coming back - not that it was new.
If it connects this time - it could get a new run.


#4

MindDetective

MindDetective

I doubt Fillion would leave Castle to do a cable show. I also doubt he would do both simultaneously. Best case scenario is a made for TV movie, I figure.


#5

Espy

Espy

MindDetective said:
I doubt Fillion would leave Castle to do a cable show. I also doubt he would do both simultaneously. Best case scenario is a made for TV movie, I figure.
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I'd take that.


#6

ncts_dodge_man

ncts_dodge_man

I think almost any Firefly fan would love more new stuff from the Firefly universe - TV movie or a "second season" would be great if done with the original cast...

Maybe we could actually find out some of wth Book really was before the series...


#7

linglingface

linglingface

Yeah no kidding. I was watching the show thinking "oh boy, can't wait to find out more about Book!" and then nothing...
I guess they tell you a little more in the graphic novel.


#8



Biannoshufu

Actually:
http://helpnathanbuyfirefly.com/
http://helpnathanbuyfirefly.com/?p=11
Alrighty, TONS of great support, including link throughs from Reddit, Geeks of Doom, io9, and a great showing from the Twitter Browncoats!
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Since as many questions are rolling in as traffic, here’s a post to answer lots of them.

  2. What do I do now? Check back in a few days, we’ll have the pledge system online. Spread the signal, http://dft.ba/-firefly far and wide. FB, Twitter, where-ever.
  3. Where can I pledge? No where yet, it’ll be here.
  4. Wait, are you people fund raising to distribute the episodes online? No, no. This is to get new content rolling. That’s why owning the DVD’s or getting Netflix isn’t a solution.
  5. 300 million? Nathan pulled that figure out of nowhere. We likely would not really need that much. We need to do two things with funding: pay for the property (buying it from Fox) and pay for any costs of new content. On the former, the Terminator series license was $30 million. We probably don’t need even that to buy the rights.
  6. Use kickstarter.com – Great suggestion, and that will make sense when we’re looking at the cost of producing the content. We don’t think we can use that to acquire the property as part 1, but we’re going to find out early next week.
  7. Can you be a non-profit for this? Short answer is yes. Tax exempt status is tougher to come by, but forming a non-profit corporation is a lot easier than you think. The admins work with non-profits professionally, so we do have some knowledge in this area.
  8. Should you really be putting all that fund-raising effort towards this? Corollary: There are starving people somewhere, help them! Well, there are projects to decrease suck and projects to increase awesome. You ‘re talking about the former, we’re working on one of the latter. See this great post for an example and explanation.
  9. Should we fund raise just to have someone else to own it? The thought process was perhaps to make it communally owned by the organization. We won’t know until we get some buy-in from Mr. Fillion or Mr. Whedon or Mr. Minear.
  10. If the fans own it, does that mean the fans can make official content? Well, that’s trying to figure out the color of the car that someone might want to buy from a factory that still isn’t built yet. In other words, we’ll get to that if we can clear more relevant hurdles. Cool concept though!
  11. What network would show this? SyFy? Science? Who said anything about being on TV? Not sure it’s relevant, but when content is made, bids can be taken from various networks.
  12. Bids? You said non-profit. There’s still a lot of money that would be made from lots of things that fans wouldn’t have to pay for, like merchandise, things like that. Those would be revenue. Non-profits can have revenue, it just must be put to use. Likely, it would fund more content, but if not, then it could be redistributed to some of the ‘decrease suck’ causes.
  13. This has been tried before, what makes you special? Who the heck are you?! Link us to some prior attempts. And tried before isn’t a guarantee of failure. One must try. And as for us, we’re Browncoats.
  14. If the project doesn’t happen, will I get my money back? Not going to ask for any actual cash until we’re further down the road and have buy-in. When that happens, if the project still doesn’t take off, yes, all people would get their donations back, 100%.
Hopefully, this answers a lot of your great questions!
Addition: No, we’re not Nathan and we’ve not heard from him yet.
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The fans are tryin.


#9

linglingface

linglingface

You know... As much as I'd love foe it to come back, it just wouldn't be the same without Wash. :-/
Unless... they completely ignore Serenity and keep Wash. :D


#10

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

Zappit,


(misleading title)


#11

Kovac

Kovac



#12

LittleSin

LittleSin

DAMN YOUR FILTHY MOUTH.


#13

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight



#14



Joe Johnson

i thought i read somewhere that fillion said he'd love to return to firefly if it were possible.
anyway, i'll watch these. i haven't seen them in years, so i'd like to see if my opinion changed on the show or not.


#15

Covar

Covar

ncts_dodge_man said:
I think almost any Firefly fan would love more new stuff from the Firefly universe - TV movie or a "second season" would be great if done with the original cast...

Maybe we could actually find out some of wth Book really was before the series...
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Watch Serenity. The main villain is a younger version of Book.


#16

linglingface

linglingface

MindDetective said:
I doubt Fillion would leave Castle to do a cable show. I also doubt he would do both simultaneously. Best case scenario is a made for TV movie, I figure.
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At least we got a Firefly reference on Castle. :) Halloween costume and also a subtle 2x2 hands of blue.


#17

ncts_dodge_man

ncts_dodge_man

Covar said:
Watch Serenity. The main villain is a younger version of Book.
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I own Serenity. Are we really sure that The Operative is actually what Book was though? My vote is maybe - not enough info for a definite yes or no.


#18

checkeredhat

checkeredhat

ncts_dodge_man said:
I own Serenity. Are we really sure that The Operative is actually what Book was though? My vote is maybe - not enough info for a definite yes or no.
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I heard they explain Book's past in the graphic novels. But I also heard the graphic novels aren't very good, and so I haven't read them and can neither confirm or deny.
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heatherling said:
At least we got a Firefly reference on Castle. :) Halloween costume and also a subtle 2x2 hands of blue.
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They did another good one fairly recently where Castle spoke Chinese unexpectedly. Or so I heard.


#19

Adam

Adammon

checkeredhat said:
They did another good one fairly recently where Castle spoke Chinese unexpectedly. Or so I heard.
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His partner then asked where he learned to speak Chinese and he said from an old TV show. It got a chuckle out of me.


#20

linglingface

linglingface

Adammon said:
His partner then asked where he learned to speak Chinese and he said from an old TV show. It got a chuckle out of me.
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Oh that's right, I remember that! 3 references, yay!!


#21

Jay

Jay

Castle is the best thing on TV right now.

Though, this is kinda neat. Maybe the strong ratings will cause some interest from the SUITS?


#22



Jiarn

If getting a full major motion picture, funded by the fans wasn't enough to impress them, I don't think anything will.


#23

Espy

Espy

Jiarn said:
If getting a full major motion picture, funded by the fans wasn't enough to impress them, I don't think anything will.
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Probably true.


#24

Jay

Jay

Well, it's almost a decade AFTER the show got canceled and people on the net are still into the show.... a show of ONE season (what 12 episodes?) and one movie that sold extremely well on the DVD market. There's definitely a certain level of interest from viewers. If anyone else but FOX would hold the right to this show, it would see the light of day and probably won't get a stick in its wheels as it's trying to learn to be marketable.

In other words, Fox can suck my dick.




And before the talk of the poor ratings, Fox didn't take into account the terrible time-slot they provided the show, the fact they switched up episodes and preempted it for sport events. They also failed to acknowledge the existence of PVRs.


#25

Charlie Don't Surf

The Lovely Boehner

I thought it was already playing on SyFy a bunch? The Science Channel has wider viewership than SyFy? I am confused.


#26

linglingface

linglingface

Hey another reference on Castle this week! His mom and daughter go to a spa named Serenity. She says something like, "what, you've never heard of Serenity?" Close-up of Castle who pauses for a sec and looks to his daughter. :)

Anyway, another thought occurred to me... To get the original cast, they'd have to take Baldwin off of Chuck and I love that show, too. So... If they could find a way to keep the original cast, forget The movie happened, keep Wash and keep Castle and Chuck going, then I'd be a happy panda.


#27

Espy

Espy

Yeah, if for any reason they were able to do anything new it would have to be movies or mini-series.

I'm happy with anything.


#28

Jay

Jay

heatherling said:
Hey another reference on Castle this week! His mom and daughter go to a spa named Serenity. She says something like, "what, you've never heard of Serenity?" Close-up of Castle who pauses for a sec and looks to his daughter. :)

Anyway, another thought occurred to me... To get the original cast, they'd have to take Baldwin off of Chuck and I love that show, too. So... If they could find a way to keep the original cast, forget The movie happened, keep Wash and keep Castle and Chuck going, then I'd be a happy panda.
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I laughed hard. It's a great show really.

Apparently the Browncosts are going nuts over this.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/HelpNathanBuyFF

Over 35k people and picking up a few thousand a few days... heck... even CNN picked up the story

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/02/23/bring.back.firefly/index.html?hpt=C2


#29

Dave

Dave

heatherling said:
Hey another reference on Castle this week! His mom and daughter go to a spa named Serenity. She says something like, "what, you've never heard of Serenity?" Close-up of Castle who pauses for a sec and looks to his daughter. :)

Anyway, another thought occurred to me... To get the original cast, they'd have to take Baldwin off of Chuck and I love that show, too. So... If they could find a way to keep the original cast, forget The movie happened, keep Wash and keep Castle and Chuck going, then I'd be a happy panda.
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#30

Jay

Jay

And Nathan tweeted this yesterday : http://yfrog.com/h38hvwj

Someone bought him a lottery ticket.


#31



Joe Johnson

I have a feeling Chuck won't last much longer - but that's not based on much, I haven't seen numbers or anything.
Certainly, this season hasn't felt as strong as the others, and it's always been on shaky ground.


#32

Espy

Espy

The sad thing is even if something did come of this the chances of getting the whole cast back is probably very, very low.


#33

Jay

Jay

Chuck? You mean the show that has Adam Baldwin and Yvonne Blondhotski?
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Espy said:
The sad thing is even if something did come of this the chances of getting the whole cast back is probably very, very low.
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That's probably true. It's obvious a decade has gone by and the best bet would be some sort of remake.

Checking on IMDB, this is what everyone is doing :

Nathan Fillion (Mal) : Stars in Castle, voice acting in Green Lantern & rumored to play as Drake in the Uncharted movie.
Gina Torres (Zoe) : Mostly TV series and voice acting in VGs. Mostly available.
Alan Tudyk (Wash) : Lots of VG, some TV series and will be in the upcoming Transformers movie. A lot of supporting minor roles. Mostly available.
Morena Baccarin (Inara ... ugh her hair!) : TV series V. Unsure about availability.
Adam Baldwin (Jane) : Supporting role in Chuck, minor support roles in movies. Unsure about availability.
Jewel Straite (Kaylee) : Mostly available, was in Stargate : Atlantis
Sean Maher (Simon) : Minor roles in TV series, mostly available.
Summer Glau (River) : TV series The Cape, supporting roles in movies, hot as ever! Mostly available.
Ron Glass (Book) : VG voice actor, minor TV roles. Mostly available.

Generally, mostly available. But heck, 10 years have gone by. If anything would happen, a remake would be ideal. Or a push in storyline.


#34



Joe Johnson

Also, a black haired Seth Green dude.


#35

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

From CNN article:

"Even if this project goes nowhere, at least it's something to show the powers-that-be that there's a product there that could be making them some money," he said.
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But it's Fox. They're fuckin' stupid.


#36

Espy

Espy

Or lets all watch Fringe so that they don't push one of the best sci-fi shows on the air to it's death.


#37



Jiarn

I'm part of the problem, I know I am. I don't want TV. EVER. I buy Seasons of shows on DVD so I can watch them at my leisure,

ex: I haven't watched the entire first season of Walking Dead even though I saw the first episode and LOVED it, because I want to watch the entire season in one/two sittings.


#38

Espy

Espy

It really is a bitch isn't it? I mean, I hate watching TV. I would much rather buy/rent the DVD's of a show but then since I'm doing that they cancel the damn show.


#39



Jiarn

Yeah, I missed Firefly in it's run, mostly because alot of people, I had no idea it existed until it was too late.

I tried watching House regularly, but I can't keep up with TV schedules and that show really doesn't "need" my help.

I will hate myself pretty badly if Walking Dead fails within 1-2 Seasons, though I don't think that will be the case.

I just wish that they'd keep a show on the air at least 2-3 Seasons and base it's popularity off the DVD sales.


#40

Frank

Frankie Williamson

mr_thehun said:
this week in febuary is fucking fox Friday. Lets all watch our favorite canceled fox shows and flip the bird to the suits that axed them.
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Does FX count?

TERRIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS!!!!


#41

Jay

Jay

http://www.facebook.com/HelpNathanBuyFF#!/HelpNathanBuyFF


#42



Jiarn

I'm all over that. I'm not sure Mr. Fillon realizes what he's begun. -laugh-


#43

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

But who's PayPal account is getting all that dough?

That is a better idea than all those drop bucket scams.


#44



Jiarn

You don't mess with Nerds, much less Internet Nerds though. Browncoats though? They're the most dangerous. If they do? They'll be very very sorry.


#45

Covar

Covar

Espy said:
Or lets all watch Fringe so that they don't push one of the best sci-fi shows on the air to it's death.
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So why we watching Fringe?


#46

Jay

Jay

No money has been sent thus far


#47

twitchmoss

twitchmoss



This is crying out for a caption of some kind.


#48

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

That pic really makes me miss it.

I don't believe Firefly will ever come back. But a TV movie, ignoring Fox rights BS and just heading for a Serenity franchise or something... it's possible. Improbable, but possible.


#49

Espy

Espy

Covar said:
So why we watching Fringe?
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Oooh sarcasm. Look. It's not my fault you have bad taste. Don't blame me or punish Fringe because you don't understand how awesome it it.


#50

linglingface

linglingface

Fillion tweeted to not send him any money. XD


#51



Jiarn

Sadly I expected that, he probably couldn't handle the responsibility of his under thought remark.


#52

Espy

Espy

Jiarn said:
Sadly I expected that, he probably couldn't handle the responsibility of his under thought remark.
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I would imagine it's much more that it sounds like a really bad idea to give your blessing to a website run by people you don't know to collect money from people you don't know. So I wouldn't say it's about not handling responsibility and actually being responsible. He never said "If the fans send me money" he said "if I had 300,000" dollars.


#53

Frank

Frankie Williamson

Wasn't it all he said was if he won the state lottery he would do all that? Just seems like a musing to me.


#54



Jiarn

Browncoats hear very differently than normal people.... I would know....


#55

Jay

Jay

So, let me get this straight He went on twitter and told him not to send him directly the money. Example : a letter with a cheque or a wad of cash. Go figure, that's just a bad place to put onself Or perhaps something greater is in the works?

mmmm


#56



Disconnected

Twitter is fact!


#57

@Li3n

@Li3n

Jiarn said:
I'm part of the problem, I know I am. I don't want TV. EVER. I buy Seasons of shows on DVD so I can watch them at my leisure,

ex: I haven't watched the entire first season of Walking Dead even though I saw the first episode and LOVED it, because I want to watch the entire season in one/two sittings.
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What, you can't leave the TV on with the sound off?!


#58

Jay

Jay

PVR is your friend.


#59



Jiarn

Well at this point Nathan has very clearly stated a few times he does not want us to send money/attempt to buy the rights.

Now there are talks of a fan-made production. -sigh-


#60

Espy

Espy

Oh well thats gonna be awesome.


#61

Jay

Jay

Jiarn said:
Well at this point Nathan has very clearly stated a few times he does not want us to send money/attempt to buy the rights.

Now there are talks of a fan-made production. -sigh-
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Nice try.

Errata 1 : There was no mention by Nathan to NOT attempt to purchase the rights, nor is the focus of the group.

Errata 2 : Fan made movie was already in the works before the creation of the group.


Nice try, perhaps you can research your material before you post next time.


#62



Jiarn

Yeah, this was posted on the Facebook page. That was my research, blame them.


#63

Jay

Jay

You missed the point, as per usual, whether it is the fact you're hard of listening or understanding it is beyond my deduction.

It's quite obvious the group has generated a lot of interest on the internet along with news outlets and a lot of excited people want to get something off the ground with this. There's talk of a LOT of things and your attitude in previous posts in this thread strongly irk me as you simply aren't able to understand what this means to many people who felt robbed of a great series (have you watched walking dead yet or will you wait until it's canceled before starting to watch it?) and I feel it would be best if the spam whoring could go beyond this thread as something really special is going on here that some of us want to helplessly look at this with a tiny bit of optimism.

There's plans in the newly created group to see what can be done, there are pledges of money of nearly one million dollars (as per last night). True or not, that's noteworthy. Nothing is concrete as of yet. If they want to do a fan made production with aspiring actors worth their salt, what stops them to do that? Or a web series? Another amateur made movie Browncoats : Redemption which I discussed in my previous post is an ideal piece of work to see how damned determined some of these people can be and it isn't too bad neither considering it was made for less than a couple hundred dollars.

I'll look at this with a grain of salt and if this somehow will get those big fat dumb Fox suits off their 1000 dollar chairs, I'd be a happier man.... at least for another season before they cancel it for the next shitty reality tv show that'll appease the fat fuck audience of mundane america.

In the meanwhile, there's always Castle.... oooh dear dear Castle.

They don't want money yet, they want to show people numbers, interests and tell everyone as they are waving a wad of potential cash, “听着你，你给我们白痴“


#64

Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

No, you're a fail.

Dammit, ninja'd.


#65



Jiarn

Jay said:
You missed the point, as per usual, whether it is the fact you're hard of listening or understanding it is beyond my deduction.
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Yeah, that was necessary. Thanks.


#66



Jiarn

Well it's done... for now.

http://www.facebook.com/HelpNathanBuyFF


#67



Joe Johnson

OK, so I'm rewatching Firefly since it's on. I haven't seen it since right before the movie came out. I'm not a "browncoat"/fanatic of the show, but I always thought it was really well done. I'm rewatching it to see if it still holds up. I think it does. Even watching the pilot there are a lot of scenes that make me think "Fuck, why couldn't this have lasted more than one season".

I'm even....starting to come around to the theme song, which I didn't think I'd ever do.
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Also, anyone ever run a "Firefly" RPG campagn? If I was still playing, I'd definitely spin up a game using GURPS.


#68



Chibibar

I have watch it recently AND bought the blu-ray special from Amazon (Thanks halforum!) I hope there is more. I felt this IP was "killed by Fox" before it was time. It has potential. I mean how long as it been now and the fans are STILL wanting more of it? We are not talking small change here (like 10k-20k fans) we are talking millions.


#69



Jiarn

-sigh- This topic always saddens me and makes me smile at the same time. I introduced my lady to Firefly, my brother, and a few RL friends. All I can do for this amazing series is spread it to as many people as I can.

It gets harder and harder to find people who know about the series because as the years go, there is less and less exposure to new audiences. I kind of feel like I'm doing my part in keeping the spirit alive by passing it on to those who may have never found out about it..... keep the Signal going...


#70



Chibibar

Jiarn said:
-sigh- This topic always saddens me and makes me smile at the same time. I introduced my lady to Firefly, my brother, and a few RL friends. All I can do for this amazing series is spread it to as many people as I can.

It gets harder and harder to find people who know about the series because as the years go, there is less and less exposure to new audiences. I kind of feel like I'm doing my part in keeping the spirit alive by passing it on to those who may have never found out about it..... keep the Signal going...
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You can never stop the signal! :)


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