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Small Question, are there Sentry guns near Warpgates in 0.4 space? Will they support me after being first shot at by another guy when he hunts me from another part of the system after warping? How do I get kill rights?

Got sweet Screenshots after destroying a Research Stations during one of my missions.





 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

Anything below .5 space is pretty much cowboy territory, but that doesn't guarantee your safety in .5 and above 100%. Any player can attack you at any time, just in .5 and above they're guaranteed to also be blown up by the NPC police. Some people will do suicide attacks if they're bored or you're carrying extremely valuable cargo, but it's rare.
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

I'm still disappointed you wouldn't go through the unstable wormhole I found, LordRendar.:p
 

Necronic

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You guys found a wormhole? That also falls into the category of new stuff I don't know a lot about, but I got the impression that there was a lot of cool stuff in those.

Also, 2 3rd party apps that you definitely want:

EvE Mon: Monitors and helps you plan your characters skill progression

EvE Fitting Tool: Based on your characters skills it helps you figure out what ship fitting setup is best for you. Lots of fun.

Both of these are offline tools. They will access EvE every once and a while to make sure its data is still correct, but you don't need to be online to use them. Tons of fun.



Edit: Sentry guns exist from 0.1 sec and up. If someone attacks you they get a criminal tag for like 10 minutes. If you come near sentry guns with a criminal flag then you will get sploded

Gate camps work by having a ship that can take all the firepower from the sentry guns start the combat and soak the damage
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

We now have a new office just opened in Sheroo VII - X-Sense Chemical station at which you can apply for membership into Hal Industries. This should be much closer than Tew to many of you (only 4 jumps away from Arnon, where you're sent for the Sisters of Eve epic arc).
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

We now have a new office just opened in Sheroo VII - X-Sense Chemical station at which you can apply for membership into Hal Industries. This should be much closer than Tew to many of you (only 4 jumps away from Arnon, where you're sent for the Sisters of Eve epic arc).

Oh sure, you tell me this AFTER I make 38 jumps just to join.
 

Necronic

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Goddammit, you guys might actually get me to start playing again...
How long ago did you quit? A LOT of stuff has changed since I was gone (FW, Wormholes, BoB and Goonswarm being gone, t2BS, T3 ships.) I'm really the only experienced player involved right now. Would be great to have some other "old timers" get into it.

Oh yeah and here's this:

 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

We now have a new office just opened in Sheroo VII - X-Sense Chemical station at which you can apply for membership into Hal Industries. This should be much closer than Tew to many of you (only 4 jumps away from Arnon, where you're sent for the Sisters of Eve epic arc).

Oh sure, you tell me this AFTER I make 38 jumps just to join.[/QUOTE]

Hey, I had to jump over to the original office too. Point the blame gun at Necronic :p
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

Im so gonna fraggle you guys once I go pirate :p kidding. But i cant wait to own some beginner frigs or miners.
 

Necronic

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EvE online, you don't have the stuff

We now have a new office just opened in Sheroo VII - X-Sense Chemical station at which you can apply for membership into Hal Industries. This should be much closer than Tew to many of you (only 4 jumps away from Arnon, where you're sent for the Sisters of Eve epic arc).

Oh sure, you tell me this AFTER I make 38 jumps just to join.[/QUOTE]

Hey, I had to jump over to the original office too. Point the blame gun at Necronic :p[/QUOTE]

Too bad your tracking sucks! Oh SNAP!
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

I figured since I've been playing for almost a week now, I'd post my thoughts on being new to this game.

It's really not as hard as some people say. There are very in depth aspects to the game, and if you want to get into that you can, but I haven't had any problems catching on. The career path missions at the beginning are very good at showing you exactly how to do everything. I still have the advanced military one to go through, but that's it. You really can spend as little or as much time as you want with the game. You can do just fine as a casual player.

You get at least one ship as a reward during each of the paths, along with plenty of equipment to outfit them with. I think I had 7 or 8 ships before I decided to start selling them off. Necronic dropped me a good chunk of change to get me started with, but I haven't even touched it yet. I want to make sure I know what I want to do before I go nuts and start buying stuff.

I'm not a huge fan of combat, and in this game that's OK. I don't have to spend my time blasting pirates. Sunday I spent most of my time just scanning different systems seeing what I could find, and trying to find out how to place my probes to get objects scanned down quicker. I found a ton of wormholes, some asteroid fields, an old wrecked pirate instalation, and some pirate hideouts. I haven't made much money off of it yet, but I have a feeling as I get my skills higher and my ship upgraded I'll be able to cut a bunch of time off of scanning and be able to jump around quicker to different systems looking for what I want. You wouldn't think it would be that entertaining, but I like it.

The biggest thing to get used to is the idea that you can lose a ship so easily. To me it adds so much to the game though. The idea that your losses are permanent. Don't cry to the GM about someone who screwed you over because they will probably just laugh at you. You are responsible for your own stupid decisions.

The look and feel of the game is also completely different than I have seen in an MMO before. The graphics are great, but that's not really it. In WoW you run around Orgrimmar or Dalaran, and there's a bunch of lvl 80's all with high end gear running around dancing on mailboxes and they all are "Champions". In Eve it feels a bit more restrained. Maybe it's the thought that cocking off will get your pretty new ship blown up.



TLDR - Freedom to do what you want, meaningful consequences, and an environment that makes you actually think about what you are doing is what I'm liking about this game. I'm only a week in, so it's just an initial reaction, but I'll be dropping WoW for this game.
 
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Chibibar

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@Shakey : glad that aspect hasn't change :) If you get yourself into a good corp (take some research) other corp may not touch you since they worry about corp retaliation.

I remember back in the old day where rich players don't mind wasting their ship to "payback" a rival messing with their corp members. There use to be some good corp, but alas, it has been so long, I don't remember their names :(

It is good that you get a ship now as part of the reward. That is pretty neat.

I wish I have more time to jump back in to see all the changes, but I have too many games on my plate right now :)
 

Necronic

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Necronic dropped me a good chunk of change to get me started with, but I haven't even touched it yet. I want to make sure I know what I want to do before I go nuts and start buying stuff.
smart man.

TLDR - Freedom to do what you want, meaningful consequences, and an environment that makes you actually think about what you are doing is what I'm liking about this game.
That's EvE in a nutshell. You decide your path. You decide your metric of success. You experience real rewards and real consequences. You experience the most complete online gaming environment ever made in whatever way you want. And you really do it with other people (as opposed to WoW which is a glorified chat room).

Edit: In my case my current goal is in developing a trading empire. I have started a massive access database to do market analyses. This actually uses real world skills and I don't have to alter my skills to handle weird in game only issues (like the MASSIVE deflation that exists in most MMOs.)
 

Necronic

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So, there has been a lot of interest from a number of yall about PvP. I have been cogitating some on this. I think I have a PvP day design in my head.

I'm not going to train yall any. I'm not that good at pvp for one, and for 2 it would take forever.

So instead here's the day.

Event 1) Frigate tourney. Everyone jump in their favorite frigate and go 1 on 1 in a ladder tourney. It will be too the death (ship death, no podding). Winner gets something nice (seriously...nice) from me.

Event 2) Dogpile. All of yall in frigs against me in a cruiser or something. You take me out you get bragging rights. Like I said, I'm not a great pvper so this will be good training for all of us. For yall its group tactics. For me its fighting off a swarm.

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If yall want to mess around with PvP ahead of time here's how to duell in high sec. DO NOT DO THIS NEAR SENTRY GUNS. Best to do it at a moon without a starbase.

Also, I am not 100% this is how you do it, but I think its right. If you want to try it you should probably do it in something really cheap first (like a newb frig if you have one)

1) Both players should drop a can of loot with 1 ammo or whatever in it.

2) Each player should take the item out of the other persons can.
This should give you a criminal tag (see a number on the screen somewhere counting down.

3) At this point you may now attack each other without fear of the CONCORDOKEN! response

4) Try not to destroy the other persons ship. Usually 50% hull is where we call a fight. (Although its totally up to the people duelling)

5) DO NOT WARP TO A STATION OR A GATE UNTIL YOUR CRIMINAL TIMER IS UP. I swear the amount of ships I have lost this way.....(its alot)

6) If you do loose a ship, don't come crying to me. Suck it up. Its pvp. Don't be a little bitch.
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

This sounds really fun. I'd love to try my Rifter against the rest of you guys in your frigates.
 

Necronic

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Talked to my buddy Straker and sound like he wants to do a dogpile with yall as well. I'm not sure how many of yall it would take for it to be a fair fight (frig vs cruiser), but if there aren't enough of you (I'm thinking it will take 5 frig v 1 cruise to be a fair fight) then maybe me and him will jump in frigates and go against all yall in frigs. 2 vs 5? Odds would definitely be in yalls favor.

Also, I am really fucking happy yall are liking this game as much as you are. EvE is one of the most rewarding games you will ever play, and if and when you do quit, it will haunt you forever. Also, once you are a couple months in you will be fully qualified to talk shit to anyone playing wow. Do it in a way that gets them to try EvE, but also make sure you nail the point home that they are playing a seriously inferior game designed for children.
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

Necronic has been scoring us 21 day trials to EvE in order to get us hooked.
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

Oh... dammit. Alright, I'll talk to you guys when I have a job. (this is really pinging me in all the right spots, but I need more income before I start paying a subscription)
 

Necronic

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EvE online, you don't have the stuff

I get the impression that you go out for beers from time to time. Basically its one less night out on the town a month. And hell, the free trial is 21 days long. Plus there's always plasma.....ok now I feel like a drug dealer.

Send me your email, I'll send you a buddy code.

Edit: Thought of another thing, wasn't sure if everyone knew this. EvE is 1 server. That's it. Roughly 500k players, 40k on at a time. So, unlike in other games where your friends may be spread out all over different servers in EvE you are all at the same place. The best thing about it, however, goes back to the who "Real Consequences Real Rewards" thing. You get famous in EvE that is a real accomplishment. Thought of this after needling the WoW kids.

On that note, I'm curious, of the guys we have in now, how many of yall played WoW before, and what are your thoughts about the 2 different games?
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

I played wow some 3 years and i would not compare it to EVE. If i had to choose, i'd take my wow experience anyday even tho i would kill myself before playing it again.


WOW's success is built around easyness and fun with guildies...Before everybody got stuck in endgame, i remember wow when doing stratholme was serious business. that was a great game back then. When i reached the cap, i got into a raid and then wow started to suck. Raids are not fun. But that's what the players want.

Eve is something else entirely. Eve is for people who don't mind building huge access databases. Eve is not as fun as WOW but it's more rewarding. It's challenging.
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

What I love about WoW is how easy it is to experience huge amounts of lore in a fantasy epic setting while sharing it with dozens to hundreds of people. Admittedly, raiding in classic wasn't so fun, but raiding in WotLK is freakin' awesome (ICC, in particular, is fantastic).

What I like about EvE is that it's completely open for whatever you want to do, I love space settings, it's easy to get friends involved, it's friendly to people of different "levels" working together, and most of all, it's an MMO that didn't have to clone WoW in order to have a polished user interface. Most other MMOs (I find) either have to clone WoW as closely as possible to make the interface work (LOTRO, WAR), or they try so hard to avoid cloning WoW that the play interface is just painful and unpolished (DDO: original, CoH, and Champions).
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

I lost my first ship last night.:mad: It was on the last mission of the advanced military training. Wasn't expecting what they dished out. I finished it on the second try, and got a free destroyer out of it, so I made it out ahead.

I played WoW for about 3 years, I think. It seems to me a bit like comparing the Wii and the PS3. They're just different, and meant for different people. My previous post said most of what I thought about that though.

Necronic, if you need help with Access let me know. I've got it installed on my PC so I can look at it if you run into something.
 

Dave

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EvE online, you don't have the stuff

God damn it. Necronic, send me an invite. I'll try it out.
 
EvE online, you don't have the stuff

:high5:

Cool thing about the trial is that if you decide to subscribe, you don't have to buy the game. Expacs are also all free.
 

Necronic

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EvE online, you don't have the stuff

So here is where we are at. The following people are now playing (or about to start)

David,
Dave,
Fade,
Shakey,
Raven Poe,
Rick Baern
Lord Rendar
Math242

Probably missing someone or said their name wrong.

So far it looks like everyone is having a really good time, which is great! Also, you guys have seriously impressed me with your accomplishments so far. This goes for all of you but there are a few specific ones I want to point out

Lord Rendar : Popped 2 miners in his first week. I can't tell you how impressive that is.
Rick Baern: Just broke 15 mil isk. A scout is thrifty
Poe and Biggie C: Got podded! I know that may not seem like an ahievement but they popped their cherry. PvP will be a lot easier from now on. Players will go for years limiting their experience trying to avoid this, you won't.
David/Malevala : Has helped me set up a new office for the corp and has been helping train others. First into the corp and acting like a true leader
Shakey: Finding wormholes left and right. The exploration system is really difficult to master, and figuring it out this fast is a hell of an accomplishment.

Anyways, to quote Dr Killinger, "I feel like such the proud papa!"

Seriously guys, I am proud of the accomplishments of every one of you, keep up the good work!
 

Necronic

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EvE online, you don't have the stuff

lol.

Tip #1 for EvE online.

Don't panic.

Seriously We Will Find You!
 
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