From Chaz? Oh no, Chaz has no love. His heart is smaller than the Grinches before X-mas.hylian said:Chazwozel said:
:eyeroll: gee I can almost feel the love
Krisken said:That sucks man. I am amazed at how often I hear of people having problems with their 360's. Did it overheat or is it just a P.O.S.?
CynicismKills said:Did you double check the cables? Anything maybe chewed through or shorted out in there somewhere?
Shegokigo said:Which version did you have? I'm gonna be buying the RED Xbox360 that has that new chip. Was it that one?
Yes they would.Roxxoredizorz said:Dude, no video is a RROD. I hadn't plugged the video cord in once by accident, and it gave me a FULL red ring. Three means that there is a problem, and usually it is, with the graphics card.
They wouldn't be having this problem if they went with Nvidia >.>
What Vagoo said.Vagabond said:Wrap a towel around it and leave it on until it RRODs.
Microsoft is still covering that, I'm pretty sure.
Joe Johnson said:Can't you just SAY you're getting the RROD?
I'd think once it's in the repair center, they'll fix it - I can't imagine the tech working on it cares about an actual RROD or not. Plus, RRODs are inconsistent anyway - I mean, I'm guessing some of the RRODed 360s don't actually get the RROD once it gets shipped to them - but they fix the common issues anyway.
This a thousand times. Nvidia cards run far hotter than ATI cards, and the NV card that would have gone into it would have failed anyway due to the shoddy solder that was used on most of the 8xxx-series.Frankie said:Yes they would.Roxxoredizorz said:Dude, no video is a RROD. I hadn't plugged the video cord in once by accident, and it gave me a FULL red ring. Three means that there is a problem, and usually it is, with the graphics card.
They wouldn't be having this problem if they went with Nvidia >.>
Pffttt I can tell you've never dealt with credit card companies or banks before. Send it in RROD or not. If they try to charge you for the repair, rip into them over the phone and they'll eventually give in and do it for free.hylian said:Joe Johnson said:Can't you just SAY you're getting the RROD?
I'd think once it's in the repair center, they'll fix it - I can't imagine the tech working on it cares about an actual RROD or not. Plus, RRODs are inconsistent anyway - I mean, I'm guessing some of the RRODed 360s don't actually get the RROD once it gets shipped to them - but they fix the common issues anyway.
I thought about that but i don't want to take a chance on them trying to charge me money for the repair so I am going to wait till I get the actual RROD. So my plan is to do the towel trick on occasion and just leave the system on for hours at a time until I get the RROD. What * me off the most is that the no video issue is caused by overheating just like the RROD. they both have to do with the X-clamp getting loose do to heat. So basically the no video is the RROD just without the lights but Microsoft just wont admit it. So if you know any tips to help my 360 RROD quicker I am all ears. I all ready am doing the towel trick. I don't want to do anything that may give them a reason to void my warranty. Right now my plan was to let it run normally all night and maybe during the day. Than if that didn't work I was going to go back to teh towel trick. I heard some people recommend putting it in the freezer but I don't want to do that.
Who are you trying to be an angel for? Microsoft? Ha! Honesty when it comes to consumer products is for chumps. Your shit broke, you can get it done for free, so get it done for free.hylian said:I was trying to be somewhat honest about. I don't think it should be too hard to actual make my 360 RROD. I know that I could just tell them it has the RROD and they would probably not even check but I would prefer to know that it actual has that issue for when I send it in.
Mine did, it started shooting fire.GasBandit said:Odd how my 8800 GTX hasn't needed to be RMA'd.
Chazwozel said:Who are you trying to be an angel for? Microsoft? Ha! Honesty when it comes to consumer products is for chumps. Your poop broke, you can get it done for free, so get it done for free.hylian said:I was trying to be somewhat honest about. I don't think it should be too hard to actual make my 360 RROD. I know that I could just tell them it has the RROD and they would probably not even check but I would prefer to know that it actual has that issue for when I send it in.
I can't stop laughing. The avatar facial smirk with this quote was just too much for me.Frankie said:Mine did, it started shooting fire.GasBandit said:Odd how my 8800 GTX hasn't needed to be RMA'd.
Lally said:I'm continually pleasantly surprised [knock on wood] with our 360... we got it in September 2006 and have had no problems with it. [knock on wood knock on wood knock on wood] I did have a dream once that it had the RROD and was surprised in the morning when it worked fine.
Lally said:So today my 360 RROD'd.
QUIET YOU! Don't set a curse on me!CynicismKills said:Lally said:I'm continually pleasantly surprised [knock on wood] with our 360... we got it in September 2006 and have had no problems with it. [knock on wood knock on wood knock on wood] I did have a dream once that it had the RROD and was surprised in the morning when it worked fine.Lally said:So today my 360 RROD'd.
Lally said:QUIET YOU! Don't set a curse on me!CynicismKills said:Lally said:I'm continually pleasantly surprised [knock on wood] with our 360... we got it in September 2006 and have had no problems with it. [knock on wood knock on wood knock on wood] I did have a dream once that it had the RROD and was surprised in the morning when it worked fine.Lally said:So today my 360 RROD'd.
Well at least you're not bitter about itAngelofBitterness said:Mine got hit by lightning and only the network port was damaged. I didn't call them - simply filled out an online form, got a boxed mailed to me, put Xbox 360 in the box, got picked up the next day, got delivered back, fixed (they even put in an improved HDDVD drive) two days later. That's a pretty damn good service if you ask me.
And to people who get RRODs: this is often the case due to
a) leaving it on for far too long
b) shoving it in a confined space
c) putting it in a space where other appliaces are already generating heat
No, it shouldn't happen that easily but you should take precautions with everything. Actually, my Wii has artifacts due to overheating and it has a piss weak graphics card :eyeroll: And it was always standing upright with plenty of room on all sides so it goes to show sometimes things just break (and of course, a month after the Wii was out of warrantee).
ElJuski said:Well at least you're not bitter about itAngelofBitterness said:Mine got hit by lightning and only the network port was damaged. I didn't call them - simply filled out an online form, got a boxed mailed to me, put Xbox 360 in the box, got picked up the next day, got delivered back, fixed (they even put in an improved HDDVD drive) two days later. That's a pretty damn good service if you ask me.
And to people who get RRODs: this is often the case due to
a) leaving it on for far too long
b) shoving it in a confined space
c) putting it in a space where other appliaces are already generating heat
No, it shouldn't happen that easily but you should take precautions with everything. Actually, my Wii has artifacts due to overheating and it has a piss weak graphics card :eyeroll: And it was always standing upright with plenty of room on all sides so it goes to show sometimes things just break (and of course, a month after the Wii was out of warrantee).
hylian said:*update*
My 360 is shutting off due to over heating but it hasn't gotten any red rings yet. rly:
Chazwozel said:hylian said:*update*
My 360 is shutting off due to over heating but it hasn't gotten any red rings yet. rly:
I'm trying to follow your flow of logic. You want to be honest about getting your poop fixed for free, so in order to do so, you're willfully damaging it further in order to get it to break in a specific way that gets it fixed for free, effectively lying about how it broke in the first place...
Perfect sense!
You should have just told them you got a RROD to start with and sent it out instead of being a big ham sandwich.
Chazwozel said:I just think you're pussyfooting around the problem ala I love Lucy style instead of just owning up and bitching Microsoft out for the warranty coverage you deserve.
You're not lying about the problem when you're willfully destroying the xbox to get a free warranty? You're breaking the rules. You're causing additional damage to get the original damage fixed. People do this all the time with automobiles. They get into an accident and claim preexisting damage is attributed to the current accident damage. It's called insurance fraud. What you're doing is considered fraud.hylian said:Chazwozel said:I just think you're pussyfooting around the problem ala I love Lucy style instead of just owning up and bitching Microsoft out for the warranty coverage you deserve.
Yes I they deserve to fix the system for free. Yes it would have been easier to just tell them it was RROD on sporadic occasions. And yes maybe I am stupid for doing it this way but I still fell better trying to work the system according to there rules rather than lie about the problem. I already called and yelled at them for an hour or so the day ot happened and it the system won't get the RROD than i will call and yell some more but in the mean time I fell better myself trying to work according to there rules. Am I bending the rules? Yes. Am I breaking the rules not really since it was already overheating it's own. Hence the no video issue.
hylian said:i am trying to be an angel for my own conscience. I know it really doesn't matter and that Microsoft deserves to fix it since it is a known defect in the system but i would prefer to be as honest as possible.
Chazwozel said:You're not lying about the problem when you're willfully destroying the xbox to get a free warranty? You're breaking the rules. You're causing additional damage to get the original damage fixed. People do this all the time with automobiles. They get into an accident and claim preexisting damage is attributed to the current accident damage. It's called insurance fraud. What you're doing is considered fraud.hylian said:Chazwozel said:I just think you're pussyfooting around the problem ala I love Lucy style instead of just owning up and bitching Microsoft out for the warranty coverage you deserve.
Yes I they deserve to fix the system for free. Yes it would have been easier to just tell them it was RROD on sporadic occasions. And yes maybe I am stupid for doing it this way but I still fell better trying to work the system according to there rules rather than lie about the problem. I already called and yelled at them for an hour or so the day ot happened and it the system won't get the RROD than i will call and yell some more but in the mean time I fell better myself trying to work according to there rules. Am I bending the rules? Yes. Am I breaking the rules not really since it was already overheating it's own. Hence the no video issue.
How is this better than bitching out Microsoft until they fix your poop for the original video problem or just bluntly telling them that you have a RRoD and sending it out?
hylian said:Chazwozel said:You're not lying about the problem when you're willfully destroying the xbox to get a free warranty? You're breaking the rules. You're causing additional damage to get the original damage fixed. People do this all the time with automobiles. They get into an accident and claim preexisting damage is attributed to the current accident damage. It's called insurance fraud. What you're doing is considered fraud.hylian said:Chazwozel said:I just think you're pussyfooting around the problem ala I love Lucy style instead of just owning up and bitching Microsoft out for the warranty coverage you deserve.
Yes I they deserve to fix the system for free. Yes it would have been easier to just tell them it was RROD on sporadic occasions. And yes maybe I am stupid for doing it this way but I still fell better trying to work the system according to there rules rather than lie about the problem. I already called and yelled at them for an hour or so the day ot happened and it the system won't get the RROD than i will call and yell some more but in the mean time I fell better myself trying to work according to there rules. Am I bending the rules? Yes. Am I breaking the rules not really since it was already overheating it's own. Hence the no video issue.
How is this better than bitching out Microsoft until they fix your poop for the original video problem or just bluntly telling them that you have a RRoD and sending it out?
It's a bit different since it is basically the same issue. As I said before both issues are caused by overheating and the x-clamp loosening. Both are the same problem just different symptoms/results. They should be fixing the no video issue for free just like they are fixing the RROD issue for free but they are still denying the link between the two problems. So I still stand by fact that I am not really causing anymore damage or breaking the rules since it is the same problem.
Chazwozel said:hylian said:Chazwozel said:You're not lying about the problem when you're willfully destroying the xbox to get a free warranty? You're breaking the rules. You're causing additional damage to get the original damage fixed. People do this all the time with automobiles. They get into an accident and claim preexisting damage is attributed to the current accident damage. It's called insurance fraud. What you're doing is considered fraud.hylian said:Yes I they deserve to fix the system for free. Yes it would have been easier to just tell them it was RROD on sporadic occasions. And yes maybe I am stupid for doing it this way but I still fell better trying to work the system according to there rules rather than lie about the problem. I already called and yelled at them for an hour or so the day ot happened and it the system won't get the RROD than i will call and yell some more but in the mean time I fell better myself trying to work according to there rules. Am I bending the rules? Yes. Am I breaking the rules not really since it was already overheating it's own. Hence the no video issue.
How is this better than bitching out Microsoft until they fix your poop for the original video problem or just bluntly telling them that you have a RRoD and sending it out?
It's a bit different since it is basically the same issue. As I said before both issues are caused by overheating and the x-clamp loosening. Both are the same problem just different symptoms/results. They should be fixing the no video issue for free just like they are fixing the RROD issue for free but they are still denying the link between the two problems. So I still stand by fact that I am not really causing anymore damage or breaking the rules since it is the same problem.
If it's the same problem then how would they know at the refurbishing plant that it's not a RRoD? I'm going to laugh if they bust out magnifying glasses and find towel fibers on your xbox vents. Stand by your assessment all you want. Most insurance frauds also make similar claims on why they do what they do.
Shannow said:I personally know a lot of folks who have force RRoD their Xboxs to get the free fix for other issues. it is not that big a deal.
I know it's not a big deal. I just don't see how it's "morally better" then sending it in for RRoD when it's not RRoD.Shannow said:I personally know a lot of folks who have force RRoD their Xboxs to get the free fix for other issues. it is not that big a deal.
hylian said:Shannow said:I personally know a lot of folks who have force RRoD their Xboxs to get the free fix for other issues. it is not that big a deal.
what method did they use? I have been letting it run on it's own and occasionally using the towel trick. Is there a better way that doesn't involve freezers,toothpicks, or blow dryers?
Chazwozel said:I know it's not a big deal. I just don't see how it's "morally better" then sending it in for RRoD when it's not RRoD.Shannow said:I personally know a lot of folks who have force RRoD their Xboxs to get the free fix for other issues. it is not that big a deal.
hylian said:Chazwozel said:I know it's not a big deal. I just don't see how it's "morally better" then sending it in for RRoD when it's not RRoD.Shannow said:I personally know a lot of folks who have force RRoD their Xboxs to get the free fix for other issues. it is not that big a deal.
even more so than morals is the fact I don't want there to be any disputes. If I send it in and say it has the RROD and they claim it didn't what am I going to do? Cause I know it really didn't. But if I know for sure that it had the RROD before I sent it in I will feel a lot safer. I may even take a picture of it just in case they try to weasel out of fixing my system or at least try to weasel money out of me for fixing it.
Shannow said:hylian said:Shannow said:I personally know a lot of folks who have force RRoD their Xboxs to get the free fix for other issues. it is not that big a deal.
what method did they use? I have been letting it run on it's own and occasionally using the towel trick. Is there a better way that doesn't involve freezers,toothpicks, or blow dryers?
Couple did what I did, and jsut wrapped the fucker in towels and blankets for a good while and let it bake in its own juices while running.
No that would be dishonest. :eyeroll:DarkAudit said:Just send the damn thing in already and stop farting around.
Dishonest is being sold a faulty piece of shit that dies due to normal heat. A friend of mine went through 3 of the damn things because they kept red-ringing him.Chazwozel said:No that would be dishonest. :eyeroll:DarkAudit said:Just send the damn thing in already and stop farting around.