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GasBandit
GasBandit
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HowDroll
HowDroll
Yay! 
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Calleja
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Wasabi Poptart
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Maybe.Amy said:
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Dunny
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Overflight
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Iaculus
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drawn_inward
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North_Ranger
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Troll
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Chazwozel
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GasBandit
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Fun Size
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twitchmoss
twitchmoss
i confess, i laughed out loud at this.Krisken said:
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GasBandit
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Krisken
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Iaculus
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sixpackshaker
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Lamont
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Espy
Espy
Funny, thats what the Daily Mail said about you.Lamont said:
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Lamont
Lamont
I apologise. I'll try to remember that in the future.Iaculus said:
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Krisken
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Espy
Espy
Gas, we've been over this, only Fox is biased. Ask anyone here.GasBandit said:
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Krisken
You guys have really got to stop playing this victim card. It's getting old, and didn't do the Democrats any good the last 8 years.
Krisken
I know my memory can be a little cloudy, but I know for a fact that isn't the case. People here have said on numerous occasions that credible news sources are few and far between. I think the only one I could follow posted up above was the Reuters.Espy said:Gas, we've been over this, only Fox is biased. Ask anyone here.GasBandit said:
You guys have really got to stop playing this victim card. It's getting old, and didn't do the Democrats any good the last 8 years.
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Corrected that for you.GasBandit said:
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Shakey
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North_Ranger
Lesser of two weevils, huh?Edrondol said:
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GasBandit
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Krisken
Carry on. I'll just watch then.
Krisken
Whoops, I was expecting discussions, not arguments. My bad, I guess.GasBandit said:
Carry on. I'll just watch then.
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Espy
Also see JCM's post for my citation.
thhp:
Espy
I'm just yanking your chain my dear old BFF. No worriesKrisken said:I know my memory can be a little cloudy, but I know for a fact that isn't the case. People here have said on numerous occasions that credible news sources are few and far between. I think the only one I could follow posted up above was the Reuters.Espy said:Gas, we've been over this, only Fox is biased. Ask anyone here.GasBandit said:
You guys have really got to stop playing this victim card. It's getting old, and didn't do the Democrats any good the last 8 years.
Also see JCM's post for my citation.
thhp:
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GasBandit
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Krisken
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JONJONAUG
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Rubicon
Rubicon
you mean Santa leaves Coke in my stockings because he's a corporate shill? 
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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DarkAudit
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Espy
Espy
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Espy
Espy
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GasBandit
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makare
makare
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The longer this goes on the more I think they should be allowed to go belly up.GasBandit said:
I feel for this guy. And as classy as he is you know he's getting contacted incessantly by lawyers.
Al Gore! Where are you now? :lol:
We need a facepalm smiley. I must find one. For now, though...
I was listening to a program on NPR where they interviewed a few people. One guy's mortgage went from $1832.81 to $1832.49 after having his mortgage restructured by a bank that was bailed out. The numbers are approximate, but the amount was $1800 and something and it went down less than $.50 a month. And the banks given the bailout money have not used it for what they were supposed to. Just look at that sit-in in Illinois. The bank was bailed out & then denied the company the money they needed to continue - which is the exact reason the banks got the bailout in the first place. The issue is not just a congress who did stuff to look good, but also that there's no oversight or accountability.
Considering the court system is already pretty far behind, will this matter? Of course, if I'm a victim and a perpetrator is out and not going to trial I might be a little scared or pissed.
Rand/McNally is next!
Solar powered. Toilet. The 1800s are laughing at us. They dug a hole in the ground for free.
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makare
Regardless of whether there is actual global warming or not, the people who actually UNDERSTAND the theory, know it wouldn't affect the weather in siberia... jackass.
makare
GasBandit said:
Regardless of whether there is actual global warming or not, the people who actually UNDERSTAND the theory, know it wouldn't affect the weather in siberia... jackass.
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makare
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makare
. Mmmhmm, makes it much easier to tolerate.
makare
this anime violin playing girl has come to accompany you in your nonsensical whining.GasBandit said:
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Jake
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GasBandit
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Iaculus
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The Lovely Boehner
The Lovely Boehner
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GasBandit
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makare
makare
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GasBandit
GasBandit
Boy, did you make that nearly illegible.
More'n you do, apparently.makare1 said:
Of course it doesn't. It's silly. The whole thing is silly. I keep forgetting that irony, wit, and sarcasm apparently haven't found purchase upon you any more recently than your last amorous encounter. I'll have to refrain from it from now on, boring as that may be.
And neither have you, for that matter. And the burden of refutation is upon you. But that's how you've always operated.. drive-by "you're full of shit" posts and then when somebody points out you actually haven't made a counter-argument, you go off and sulk.
People tend to complain when you put real world knowledge in your bibliography, as it doesn't have an ISBN and you can't link it in UBB code.
The prosecution rests, your honor.makare1 said:
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North_Ranger
And here's a kettle.
Go nuts.
North_Ranger
Here's a pot.GasBandit said:
And here's a kettle.
Go nuts.
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Espy
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Jake
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Covar
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makare
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SpecialKO
And here's the ketel:
SpecialKO
Don't you actually mean, here's the pot:North_Ranger said:
And here's the ketel:
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North_Ranger
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GasBandit
All I ever said about pollution was that the witch hunt demonizing CO2 as a "pollutant" was stupid. Mercury, sulphur or carbon monoxide... this is pollution. But the persecution of the production of CO2 is purely political and ultimately asinine, in the same vein as the previous decade's bad-science freon panic.
GasBandit
Nnnnnnyoink. Mine now.Jake said:
So what you're saying is you want me to prove something without discussing its origins, providing corroborating opinions from qualified experts, or making any sort of explanatory summarizations? Snort.makare1 said:
All I ever said about pollution was that the witch hunt demonizing CO2 as a "pollutant" was stupid. Mercury, sulphur or carbon monoxide... this is pollution. But the persecution of the production of CO2 is purely political and ultimately asinine, in the same vein as the previous decade's bad-science freon panic.
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Espy
Gas told me to bookmark it.
But you know what? Screw that. I don't want to.
Espy
Thats what I said.Amy said:
Gas told me to bookmark it.
But you know what? Screw that. I don't want to.
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GasBandit
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I unstickied it to get through the clutter at the top.Espy said:Thats what I said.Amy said:
Gas told me to bookmark it.
But you know what? Screw that. I don't want to.
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Espy
Espy
Damn. Thats cold Ed.Edrondol said:I unstickied it because I hate Gas Bandit.Espy said:Thats what I said.Amy said:
Gas told me to bookmark it.
But you know what? Screw that. I don't want to.
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Trowan22
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GasBandit
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makare
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A
Amy old
GB's and Benny's threads are some of the best here (besides yours, other reader.)
A
Amy old
well there's less clutter. Restickie (y?) the thread, please? Pleeease?Edrondol said:I unstickied it to get through the clutter at the top.Espy said:Thats what I said.Amy said:
Gas told me to bookmark it.
But you know what? Screw that. I don't want to.
GB's and Benny's threads are some of the best here (besides yours, other reader.)
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Espy
Espy
Oh sure, I ask and you ignore it.
A pretty lady comes along and Ed just rolls over... :bush:
Actually, yeah, ok, that makes sense.
A pretty lady comes along and Ed just rolls over... :bush:
Actually, yeah, ok, that makes sense.
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[spoiler:e5woc48q]You're welcome, Amy.[/spoiler:e5woc48q]
Or maybe you were just one guy and when more asked for it...Espy said:Oh sure, I ask and you ignore it.
A pretty lady comes along and Ed just rolls over... :bush:
Actually, yeah, ok, that makes sense.
[spoiler:e5woc48q]You're welcome, Amy.[/spoiler:e5woc48q]
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Espy
Espy
I'm not your guy, buddy!Edrondol said:Or maybe you were just one guyEspy said:Oh sure, I ask and you ignore it.
A pretty lady comes along and Ed just rolls over... :bush:
Actually, yeah, ok, that makes sense.
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Lamont
And then with a metaphorical clothespeg over one's nose at being obliged to use kindergarten language.
Lamont
Only pertaining to American politics.GasBandit said:
And then with a metaphorical clothespeg over one's nose at being obliged to use kindergarten language.
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GasBandit
GasBandit
And the monkeys have been eating patchouli.North_Ranger said:
American politics is de facto World Politics.Lamont said:Only pertaining to American politics.GasBandit said:
And then with a metaphorical clothespeg over one's nose at being obliged to use kindergarten language.
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Lamont
Lamont
So are others, but point taken. Which makes it even more galling to have to adopt childish vocabulary.GasBandit said:
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GasBandit
GasBandit
Senator DeMint brought up an excellent point. GM is in a better financial situation than the government that wants to bail it out. The only difference between these two failing entities (GM and the government) is that the government can print money. GM can't.
Harry Reid has insisted on tacking a rider on the Auto bailout bill for a pay raise for federal judges. Whee.
Could Rod Blagojevich employ an insanity defense?
Which state would you say is the most corrupt in the nation? Kinda surprised me, actually.
It looks like AIG is putting your tax dollars to good use with some wise business decisions.
Barack Obama's choice for energy secretary - Steven Chu ... he was a tree sitter in Berkeley, an archdeacon of the church of Global Warming. Lovely.
And ladies and gentlemen, at long last we introduce to you a web browser for black people. /facepalm
Harry Reid has insisted on tacking a rider on the Auto bailout bill for a pay raise for federal judges. Whee.
Could Rod Blagojevich employ an insanity defense?
Which state would you say is the most corrupt in the nation? Kinda surprised me, actually.
It looks like AIG is putting your tax dollars to good use with some wise business decisions.
Barack Obama's choice for energy secretary - Steven Chu ... he was a tree sitter in Berkeley, an archdeacon of the church of Global Warming. Lovely.
And ladies and gentlemen, at long last we introduce to you a web browser for black people. /facepalm
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Philosopher B.
Philosopher B.
*Gasp* It wasn't my state!GasBandit said:
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GasBandit
GasBandit
Most mainstream media sources are doing pretty good at tiptoeing around the fact that Bernie Madoff, orchestrator of what is being called the world's largest Ponzi scheme ever (to the tune of fifty billion dollars) was a big donor to democrat party concerns and candidates. You can bet if he was a GOP donor, it'd have been trumpeted at every opportunity. If he was a libertarian party candidate the money would have been considered twice as squandered as before
But really, about all this ponzi scheme stuff... a ponzi scheme is a system destined to collapse which pays off dividends to early contributors with the buy-in money of later contributors and the cycle repeats until it becomes unsustainably large and insufficient new suckers can be found to keep the trickle going to the previous generation of suckers.... What Madoff is really guilty of here is just impersonating the federal government. When Madoff does it they call it a "ponzi scheme" and throw the perp in the slammer. When the federal government does it they call it Social Security and keep the perp in office for 4 terms.
Perhaps the Korean immigrant whose family was killed when an F-18 crashed into his house doesn't blame the pilot, but his neighbors sure want to blame the marine air base. They want that thing closed and outta there. Somehow I find it hard to agree with them when the base has been around longer than any of the complainers has been alive (1917), and THEY chose to move close to IT.
Due to computer glitches and government bureaucracy, widows of our war veterans have been wrongfully denied millions of dollars in government benefits. This is why we don't want the federal government in charge of more stuff.
How do you feel about the government spending your taxpayer dollars to help delinquent mortgage borrowers?
Teachers unions are hindering student learning? There's a real shocker.
It's official .. a court in Germany has ruled that having epic boobies is not an illness.
But really, about all this ponzi scheme stuff... a ponzi scheme is a system destined to collapse which pays off dividends to early contributors with the buy-in money of later contributors and the cycle repeats until it becomes unsustainably large and insufficient new suckers can be found to keep the trickle going to the previous generation of suckers.... What Madoff is really guilty of here is just impersonating the federal government. When Madoff does it they call it a "ponzi scheme" and throw the perp in the slammer. When the federal government does it they call it Social Security and keep the perp in office for 4 terms.
Perhaps the Korean immigrant whose family was killed when an F-18 crashed into his house doesn't blame the pilot, but his neighbors sure want to blame the marine air base. They want that thing closed and outta there. Somehow I find it hard to agree with them when the base has been around longer than any of the complainers has been alive (1917), and THEY chose to move close to IT.
Due to computer glitches and government bureaucracy, widows of our war veterans have been wrongfully denied millions of dollars in government benefits. This is why we don't want the federal government in charge of more stuff.
How do you feel about the government spending your taxpayer dollars to help delinquent mortgage borrowers?
Teachers unions are hindering student learning? There's a real shocker.
It's official .. a court in Germany has ruled that having epic boobies is not an illness.
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sixpackshaker
I am happy that Biden picked a real dog, to fulfill his wife's promise to buy him a dog if he got elected VEEP. He picked out a German Shepherd Dog....!
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MindDetective
MindDetective
My toes are still cold from the drive to work this morning.
With this many Minnesota residents, I think we need a frozen emoticon...like this one but smaller:
With this many Minnesota residents, I think we need a frozen emoticon...like this one but smaller:
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GasBandit
Bush is discussing an auto "rescue" that could cost upwards of $40 billion. Well, at least the man is consistent, I guess. rly:
And while we're on the subject, how about a recap of the worst government waste of the year.
A shout out to all our Minnesotans in the thread. Norm Coleman has asked the Minnesota Supreme Court to get involved in this Senate race with funny guy Al Franken.
I guess even in these troubled economic times, every cloud has a silver lining: Some Mexicans leaving US, planning never to return.
This story is about a supermarket that refused to personalize a birthday cake for a toddler .. Adolf Hitler Campbell. Parents of the year.
Here's a twofer from the UK ... environmentalist protesters and government waste.
What is going on in Great Britain lately? Now the Salvation Army can't ring bells or shake charity tins because it might "offend other religions." (Yes, I realize it's the daily mail :finger: )
Haven't had enough from the UK? Fine. A blind man was turned away from a restaurant because his guide dog was offensive to the Muslim staff. (The restaraunt was apparently one of Indian cuisine)
rly: And while we're on the subject, how about a recap of the worst government waste of the year.
A shout out to all our Minnesotans in the thread. Norm Coleman has asked the Minnesota Supreme Court to get involved in this Senate race with funny guy Al Franken.
I guess even in these troubled economic times, every cloud has a silver lining: Some Mexicans leaving US, planning never to return.
This story is about a supermarket that refused to personalize a birthday cake for a toddler .. Adolf Hitler Campbell. Parents of the year.
Here's a twofer from the UK ... environmentalist protesters and government waste.
What is going on in Great Britain lately? Now the Salvation Army can't ring bells or shake charity tins because it might "offend other religions." (Yes, I realize it's the daily mail :finger: )
Haven't had enough from the UK? Fine. A blind man was turned away from a restaurant because his guide dog was offensive to the Muslim staff. (The restaraunt was apparently one of Indian cuisine)
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Future son in law-Futureking said:
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Philosopher B.
Philosopher B.
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GasBandit
GasBandit
I somehow have this inexplicable feeling that the guy is dead serious. My posting of it, however, was to elicit this exact response.
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GasBandit
GasBandit
Also -
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Trowan22
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GasBandit
GasBandit
Futureking said:
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Lamont
Lamont
I have zero problem with making gas more expensive. Gas is bad news in so many ways.
Whingers.
Whingers.
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Shakey
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GasBandit
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MindDetective
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Troll
Troll
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GasBandit
GasBandit
A Troll said:
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Jake
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Troll
Troll
Is that really the best response you could muster? A pathetic image? I expected better of you.GasBandit said:A Troll said:
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Cuyval Dar
A pathetic response. GB is expected, nay, it is his responsibility to post images. I give you a 0/10, should not troll again.
Cuyval Dar
Is that really the best response you could muster? A pathetic image? I expected better of you.[/quote:16k958sg]A Troll said:GasBandit said:
A pathetic response. GB is expected, nay, it is his responsibility to post images. I give you a 0/10, should not troll again.
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Troll
Troll
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Matt²
Matt²
Auto Bailout passes http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1
FORD on the other hand says "No Thanks"..
I was and am highly opposed to any bailout that simply gives these companies money, but the 17.4 Billion is a LOAN that they have to pay back, and is from the bank bailout, so it's not exactly extra. FORD on the other hand wants billions in CREDIT ... WTF, Ford?! You don't operate a business that way.. if people don't buy your shit, you either fold or make better merchandise.
:blargh: :blargh: :blargh: :blargh:
FORD on the other hand says "No Thanks"..
I was and am highly opposed to any bailout that simply gives these companies money, but the 17.4 Billion is a LOAN that they have to pay back, and is from the bank bailout, so it's not exactly extra. FORD on the other hand wants billions in CREDIT ... WTF, Ford?! You don't operate a business that way.. if people don't buy your shit, you either fold or make better merchandise.
:blargh: :blargh: :blargh: :blargh:
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Armadillo
Armadillo
Not NEARLY enough.Espy said:
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Espy
I'd like to see his report, I assume it would go something like this:Armadillo said:Not NEARLY enough.Espy said:
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The Lovely Boehner
The Lovely Boehner
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Espy
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GasBandit
No, that glass is half full.. of giardia.Futureking said:GasBandit said:
You must be one of those half-empty glass guys. :sadness:
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GasBandit
GasBandit
Is the information incorrect? No? Thank you for playing.DarkHelmet said:
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Espy
thhp:
Espy
I think I'm a better troll than you. It's way to easy to get you.A Troll said:
thhp:
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Troll
Ugh. Dammit.
Troll
I... no, but... you...Espy said:I think I'm a better troll than you. It's way to easy to get you.A Troll said:
Ugh. Dammit.
#289
Iaculus
Iaculus
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Troll
Troll
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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Zonker
Zonker
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GasBandit
Remember the "Gang of 14?" Also, you might want to cast your memory back to Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas.
GasBandit
No, the reverse is not true, because of the filibuster (and also because we haven't had a CONSERVATIVE senate, we have had a REPUBLICAN senate, and a number of those have been RINO). If a nominee even so much as hints that it might be conceivable to overturn Roe vs Wade, they're HOWLED out of the chambers.A Troll said:
Remember the "Gang of 14?" Also, you might want to cast your memory back to Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas.
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GasBandit
GasBandit
Merry Christmas
SO FULL OF INFECTIOUS CHRISTMAS CHEER!
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20:wzf9fxka][/youtube:wzf9fxka]
DUUUUUUUUDE!
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5j4McFzies:wzf9fxka][/youtube:wzf9fxka]
Try your hand at being an air traffic controller.
2008 in photographs. Stunning!
Pet grooming gone wrong. Way wrong.
This guy should rethink his grooming habits.
Saudi court refuses to annul marriage of 8 year old girl to 58 year old man.
Is Santa the handiwork of Satan?
These might come in handy....depression era Christmas ads.
You'll need this after being over served...make your own immitation Alka Seltzer for a fraction of the cost! Disclaimer: for entertainment purposes only.
NORAD Santa tracker.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgBUqJzgvBo:wzf9fxka][/youtube:wzf9fxka]
SO FULL OF INFECTIOUS CHRISTMAS CHEER!
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg7uGL6Ku20:wzf9fxka][/youtube:wzf9fxka]
DUUUUUUUUDE!
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5j4McFzies:wzf9fxka][/youtube:wzf9fxka]
Try your hand at being an air traffic controller.
2008 in photographs. Stunning!
Pet grooming gone wrong. Way wrong.
This guy should rethink his grooming habits.
Saudi court refuses to annul marriage of 8 year old girl to 58 year old man.
Is Santa the handiwork of Satan?
These might come in handy....depression era Christmas ads.
You'll need this after being over served...make your own immitation Alka Seltzer for a fraction of the cost! Disclaimer: for entertainment purposes only.
NORAD Santa tracker.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgBUqJzgvBo:wzf9fxka][/youtube:wzf9fxka]
#296
Troll
Troll
Point taken.GasBandit said:No, the reverse is not true, because of the filibuster (and also because we haven't had a CONSERVATIVE senate, we have had a REPUBLICAN senate, and a number of those have been RINO). If a nominee even so much as hints that it might be conceivable to overturn Roe vs Wade, they're HOWLED out of the chambers.A Troll said:
Remember the "Gang of 14?" Also, you might want to cast your memory back to Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas.
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Bubble181
Bubble181
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Troll
Troll
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Bubble181
Bubble181
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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Scarlet Varlet
Scarlet Varlet
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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Scarlet Varlet
Scarlet Varlet
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JCM
JCM
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Scarlet Varlet
Scarlet Varlet
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ElJuski
ElJuski
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Scarlet Varlet
Scarlet Varlet
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ElJuski
ElJuski
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Troll
Troll
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Bubble181
Bubble181
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Scarlet Varlet
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Zonker
Zonker
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Bubble181
Bubble181
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Zonker
Zonker
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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Cuyval Dar
Cuyval Dar
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Espy
Espy
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Espy
Espy
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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Calleja
Calleja
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Covar
Covar
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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Kitty Sinatra
Kitty Sinatra
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Espy
Espy
No worries, I just thought we were being ridiculous.Iaculus said:
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Iaculus
Iaculus
Don't worry - I may be a bit of a weenie sometimes, but I'm not that bad.Espy said:No worries, I just thought we were being ridiculous.Iaculus said:
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Covar
Covar
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GasBandit
GasBandit
So what's Cynthia McKinney up to these days? Trying to break the Gaza blockade.
A handy guide to bailout acronyms. [pdf]
A study shows teens that take abstinence pledges are just as likely to be sexually active as those that don't and they are less likely to use birth control. Bristol Palin is unavailable for comment.
Disney appears to be trying something different with their Bambi II marketing.
Troops fighting in the Middle East could lose custody of children because they are "unfit parents."
It's not just first hand and second hand smoke that can be a problem...here come's third hand smoke!
A handy guide to bailout acronyms. [pdf]
A study shows teens that take abstinence pledges are just as likely to be sexually active as those that don't and they are less likely to use birth control. Bristol Palin is unavailable for comment.
Disney appears to be trying something different with their Bambi II marketing.
Troops fighting in the Middle East could lose custody of children because they are "unfit parents."
It's not just first hand and second hand smoke that can be a problem...here come's third hand smoke!
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Wahad
Wahad
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Troll
Troll
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Espy
Espy
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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ElJuski
ElJuski
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Troll
Troll
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Troll
Troll
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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GasBandit
GasBandit
#346
Approves, even though the picture is terrible.
3 fake points to the person who gets the reference.
GasBandit said:
Approves, even though the picture is terrible.
3 fake points to the person who gets the reference.
#347
Shakey
Shakey
Adventures in BabysittingEdrondol said:GasBandit said:
Approves, even though the picture is terrible.
3 fake points to the person who gets the reference.
#348
Take your freaking fake points!
And here I thought it would be harder than that. *sulk*slothilopolis said:Adventures in BabysittingEdrondol said:GasBandit said:
Approves, even though the picture is terrible.
3 fake points to the person who gets the reference.
Take your freaking fake points!
#349
Shakey
Shakey
You did have the title in the link to the picture, but the sad thing is I actually remembered the movie. I watched that movie wayyyy too many times when I was younger.Edrondol said:slothilopolis said:Adventures in BabysittingEdrondol said:GasBandit said:
Approves, even though the picture is terrible.
3 fake points to the person who gets the reference.
And here I thought it would be harder than that. *sulk*
Take your freaking fake points!
#350
makare
makare
Can I get some points for knowing offhand that that is Vincent D'Onofrio from Law and Order CI?Edrondol said:And here I thought it would be harder than that. *sulk*slothilopolis said:Adventures in BabysittingEdrondol said:GasBandit said:
Approves, even though the picture is terrible.
3 fake points to the person who gets the reference.
Take your freaking fake points!
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#352
F
Futureking
Watch
http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/reviews/adventuresinbabysittingthor1.jpg
F
Futureking
All he had to do was quote you and the image url appears. He was faking it.Edrondol said:And here I thought it would be harder than that. *sulk*slothilopolis said:Adventures in BabysittingEdrondol said:GasBandit said:
Approves, even though the picture is terrible.
3 fake points to the person who gets the reference.
Take your freaking fake points!
Watch
http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/reviews/adventuresinbabysittingthor1.jpg
#353
makare
makare
He already said that was a way he found out.Futureking said:All he had to do was quote you and the image url appears. He was faking it.
Watch
http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/reviews/adventuresinbabysittingthor1.jpg
#354
Shakey
Shakey
No, I said I knew but you could tell by the URL anyways. Either way, it's not worth arguing about. Let's get back to politics.makare1 said:He already said that was a way he found out.Futureking said:All he had to do was quote you and the image url appears. He was faking it.
Watch
http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/reviews/adventuresinbabysittingthor1.jpg
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GasBandit
GasBandit
#356
Shakey
Shakey
#357
makare
Well, that would be why I said A way you found out, not THE way you found out. I love it when people say something like "let's not argue" after they make one last post. Not that this was an argument... at least not that I noticed.
makare
slothilopolis said:No, I said I knew but you could tell by the URL anyways. Either way, it's not worth arguing about. Let's get back to politics.makare1 said:He already said that was a way he found out.Futureking said:All he had to do was quote you and the image url appears. He was faking it.
Watch
http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/reviews/adventuresinbabysittingthor1.jpg
Well, that would be why I said A way you found out, not THE way you found out. I love it when people say something like "let's not argue" after they make one last post. Not that this was an argument... at least not that I noticed.
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Espy
Espy
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The Lovely Boehner
The Lovely Boehner
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Shakey
Shakey
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Espy
Espy
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Shakey
Shakey
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Espy
Espy
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Troll
Troll
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Espy
Espy
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Espy
Espy
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Troll
Troll
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Espy
thhp:
Espy
I lol'd. But I'm probably racist cause I didn't vote for Big O.A Troll said:
thhp:
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Troll
Troll
Dude, I can't understand a thing you're saying until you take your hood off.Espy said:I lol'd. But I'm probably racist cause I didn't vote for Big O.A Troll said:
#372
Espy
What?
Espy
Dude, I can't understand a thing you're saying until you take your hood off.[/quote:3isble89]A Troll said:I lol'd. But I'm probably racist cause I didn't vote for Big O.Espy said:
What?
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Espy
Espy
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Troll
Troll
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Armadillo
You forgot to include the humdinger of Obama nominating former Clinton Chief of Staff Leon "Fuckin'" Panetta to head up the CIA. Sure, why not? It's not like it's an IMPORTANT job or anything...
And on a lighter note: Barack Obama, Cobbler Expert
Armadillo
GasBandit said:
You forgot to include the humdinger of Obama nominating former Clinton Chief of Staff Leon "Fuckin'" Panetta to head up the CIA. Sure, why not? It's not like it's an IMPORTANT job or anything...
And on a lighter note: Barack Obama, Cobbler Expert
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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Espy
Espy
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ElJuski
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Troll
Troll
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Krisken
Krisken
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Troll
Troll
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Krisken
Krisken
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Covar
Covar
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Espy
Espy
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Covar
Covar
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Shakey
Shakey
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Espy
Espy
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Armadillo
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Shakey
Shakey
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Espy
Espy
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Shakey
Shakey
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Jake
Jake
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Troll
Troll
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Espy
Espy
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Shakey
Shakey
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Espy
Espy
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Shakey
Shakey
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Shakey
Shakey
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Troll
Troll
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Krisken
Krisken
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Shakey
Shakey
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Espy
Espy
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Troll
Troll
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Espy
Espy
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Troll
Troll
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Espy
Espy
Again, you need to learn the difference between making fun of something silly and being passive aggressive. It's a big one.A Troll said:
#414
Troll
Hey, this is fun! I anxiously await your next "Nuh uh, you are!" post, so I can respond in kind.
Troll
Again, dress it up however you'd like. The fact remains.Espy said:Again, you need to learn the difference between making fun of something silly and being passive aggressive. It's a big one.A Troll said:
Hey, this is fun! I anxiously await your next "Nuh uh, you are!" post, so I can respond in kind.
#415
Espy
Hey, this is fun! I anxiously await your next "Nuh uh, you are!" post, so I can respond in kind.[/quote:3kjsk92j]
You're the one making the accusation that I'm being passive aggressive instead of refusing to believe I'm just making fun of your post. I really can't help you if you would rather believe the former. But if it helps you sleep at night then rock on.
Espy
Again, dress it up however you'd like. The fact remains.A Troll said:Again, you need to learn the difference between making fun of something silly and being passive aggressive. It's a big one.Espy said:
Hey, this is fun! I anxiously await your next "Nuh uh, you are!" post, so I can respond in kind.
[/quote:3kjsk92j]You're the one making the accusation that I'm being passive aggressive instead of refusing to believe I'm just making fun of your post. I really can't help you if you would rather believe the former. But if it helps you sleep at night then rock on.
#416
Iaculus
:teeth:
He got espy.
Congrats, sir - I think you just levelled up.
Edit: unless that was some really subtle humour on your part, O smoking baby.
Iaculus
You're the one making the accusation that I'm being passive aggressive instead of refusing to believe I'm just making fun of your post. I really can't help you if you would rather believe the former. But if it helps you sleep at night then rock on.[/quote:3ahi4jhs]Espy said:Again, dress it up however you'd like. The fact remains.A Troll said:Again, you need to learn the difference between making fun of something silly and being passive aggressive. It's a big one.Espy said:
Hey, this is fun! I anxiously await your next "Nuh uh, you are!" post, so I can respond in kind.
:teeth:
He got espy.
Congrats, sir - I think you just levelled up.
Edit: unless that was some really subtle humour on your part, O smoking baby.
#417
Espy
If he was truly trolling then I tip my hat to him and give him one internet cookie.
Espy
You know, for a troll he has no history of trolling so until it's proved otherwise I just take him at face value. I thought I was being aggressive but apparently not enough.Iaculus said:
If he was truly trolling then I tip my hat to him and give him one internet cookie.
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Denbrought
Denbrought
#420
Troll
Anyone who goes back in this thread on the 23rd will find an exchange where Espy got me hook, line, and sinker. I've been trying for a bit to pay him back, but he's wily. I think I may have just succeeded.
EDIT:
Troll
It's true, I'm usually not trying to troll, but with Espy I just couldn't resist. :teeth:Espy said:You know, for a troll he has no history of trolling so until it's proved otherwise I just take him at face value. I thought I was being aggressive but apparently not enough.Iaculus said:
If he was truly trolling then I tip my hat to him and give him one internet cookie.
Anyone who goes back in this thread on the 23rd will find an exchange where Espy got me hook, line, and sinker. I've been trying for a bit to pay him back, but he's wily. I think I may have just succeeded.
EDIT:
I lol'dArmadillo said:
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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ElJuski
ElJuski
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Armadillo
Armadillo
ElJuski said:
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Twitch
Twitch
When I was in Rome I saw posters for what was, as far as I could tell, the Gay Communist 08 rally.
Edit: I got a picture
Edit: I got a picture
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Iaculus
Iaculus
Were they marching for abortion rights? Please tell me they were marching for abortion rights.Twitch said:When I was in Rome I saw posters for what was, as far as I could tell, the Gay Communist 08 rally.
Edit: I got a picture
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Twitch
Twitch
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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Troll
Troll
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Shakey
Shakey
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Allen, who is Quiet
Allen, who is Quiet
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sixpackshaker
sixpackshaker
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Krisken
Krisken
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Twitch
Twitch
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Krisken
Krisken
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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ElJuski
ElJuski
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Iaculus
Iaculus
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Armadillo
Armadillo
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sixpackshaker
sixpackshaker
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GasBandit
GasBandit
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Philosopher B.
Philosopher B.
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Dieb
According to the War Crimes Act of 1996 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c104:H.R.3680, a war crime is defined as a "grave breach of the Geneva Conventions". Now, the Bush Administration tries to argue that Al Qaeda prisoners are not subject to the Geneva Conventions because they are not Prisoners of War. However, Common Article Three of the Geneva conventions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Con ... _Article_3) explicitly applies to enemy combatants who are not POWs. The Supreme Court, in Hamdan v Rumsfeld (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/05-184.ZO.html) ruled that Article Three DID apply to Al Qaeda prisoners.
Now, obviously, Article Three prohibits torture. Of course, the Administration then tries to say that waterboarding is not torture. However, waterboarding has been defined as torture by US courts NUMEROUS times. For example, one Japanese POW after World War II was sentenced to 15 years hard labor for the war crime of waterboarding. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01170.html). That same article recounts US soldiers being court-martialed for using waterboarding Filipino guerrillas during America's occupation of the Philippines after the Spanish-American War. And in 1922, the Mississippi Supreme Court ruled that waterboarding was torture. A Black man had been convicted of murdering a white man based on his confession after being waterboarded. The bloody MISSISSIPPI Supreme Court in 1922 through out an African-American's murder conviction because he had been waterboarded.
So if torture is a war crime, and if waterboarding is torture, Bush's only recourse would be that he didn't know what was happening. This is incredibly unlikely. I refer you to the Senate Armed Services Committee Inquiry Into the Treatment of Detainees in US Custody (http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/suppor ... 121108.pdf). On February 7, 2002, President Bush signed a memo stating that the Geneva Conventions did not apply in the conflict with Al Qaeda, including Article Three. Also, his Office of Legal Council on August 1, 2002, approved the use of waterboarding among many other interrogation techniques that are still classified. If Bush didn't know we were waterboarding at least some detainees, he's an even bigger idiot than his critics say he is. And no, I don't think Bush is stupid.
Dieb
Well, I don't have all the time in the world, so I'll just go through one war crime: waterboarding.Armadillo said:
According to the War Crimes Act of 1996 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c104:H.R.3680
, a war crime is defined as a "grave breach of the Geneva Conventions". Now, the Bush Administration tries to argue that Al Qaeda prisoners are not subject to the Geneva Conventions because they are not Prisoners of War. However, Common Article Three of the Geneva conventions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Con ... _Article_3) explicitly applies to enemy combatants who are not POWs. The Supreme Court, in Hamdan v Rumsfeld (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/05-184.ZO.html) ruled that Article Three DID apply to Al Qaeda prisoners.Now, obviously, Article Three prohibits torture. Of course, the Administration then tries to say that waterboarding is not torture. However, waterboarding has been defined as torture by US courts NUMEROUS times. For example, one Japanese POW after World War II was sentenced to 15 years hard labor for the war crime of waterboarding. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01170.html). That same article recounts US soldiers being court-martialed for using waterboarding Filipino guerrillas during America's occupation of the Philippines after the Spanish-American War. And in 1922, the Mississippi Supreme Court ruled that waterboarding was torture. A Black man had been convicted of murdering a white man based on his confession after being waterboarded. The bloody MISSISSIPPI Supreme Court in 1922 through out an African-American's murder conviction because he had been waterboarded.
So if torture is a war crime, and if waterboarding is torture, Bush's only recourse would be that he didn't know what was happening. This is incredibly unlikely. I refer you to the Senate Armed Services Committee Inquiry Into the Treatment of Detainees in US Custody (http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/suppor ... 121108.pdf). On February 7, 2002, President Bush signed a memo stating that the Geneva Conventions did not apply in the conflict with Al Qaeda, including Article Three. Also, his Office of Legal Council on August 1, 2002, approved the use of waterboarding among many other interrogation techniques that are still classified. If Bush didn't know we were waterboarding at least some detainees, he's an even bigger idiot than his critics say he is. And no, I don't think Bush is stupid.
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Troll
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makare
makare
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Troll
Troll
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JCM
JCM
Like never. []
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Agreed, but then, as put forth by troll-Dieb said:Well, I don't have all the time in the world, so I'll just go through one war crime: waterboarding.Armadillo said:
According to the War Crimes Act of 1996 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c104:H.R.3680
Now, obviously, Article Three prohibits torture. Of course, the Administration then tries to say that waterboarding is not torture. However, waterboarding has been defined as torture by US courts NUMEROUS times. For example, one Japanese POW after World War II was sentenced to 15 years hard labor for the war crime of waterboarding. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01170.html). That same article recounts US soldiers being court-martialed for using waterboarding Filipino guerrillas during America's occupation of the Philippines after the Spanish-American War. And in 1922, the Mississippi Supreme Court ruled that waterboarding was torture. A Black man had been convicted of murdering a white man based on his confession after being waterboarded. The bloody MISSISSIPPI Supreme Court in 1922 through out an African-American's murder conviction because he had been waterboarded.
So if torture is a war crime, and if waterboarding is torture, Bush's only recourse would be that he didn't know what was happening. This is incredibly unlikely. I refer you to the Senate Armed Services Committee Inquiry Into the Treatment of Detainees in US Custody (http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/suppor ... 121108.pdf). On February 7, 2002, President Bush signed a memo stating that the Geneva Conventions did not apply in the conflict with Al Qaeda, including Article Three. Also, his Office of Legal Council on August 1, 2002, approved the use of waterboarding among many other interrogation techniques that are still classified. If Bush didn't know we were waterboarding at least some detainees, he's an even bigger idiot than his critics say he is. And no, I don't think Bush is stupid.
Dont worry though, most think the same as you, but just got tired of explaining the same thing the past 8 years to the right wingers.A Troll said:
#455
F
Futureking
You should like, post this in the epic win thread.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1074&start=35
F
Futureking
He got espy? I've can't let my guard down now.A Troll said:It's true, I'm usually not trying to troll, but with Espy I just couldn't resist. :teeth:Espy said:You know, for a troll he has no history of trolling so until it's proved otherwise I just take him at face value. I thought I was being aggressive but apparently not enough.Iaculus said:
If he was truly trolling then I tip my hat to him and give him one internet cookie.
Anyone who goes back in this thread on the 23rd will find an exchange where Espy got me hook, line, and sinker. I've been trying for a bit to pay him back, but he's wily. I think I may have just succeeded.
You should like, post this in the epic win thread.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1074&start=35
#456
Armadillo
Armadillo
#457
JCM
LIIIBS!
LIIIBS!
LIIIBS!
Heh, thats another funny thing about the far-right (and supporters), anyone that isnt a far-right lunatic, disagrees with the Iraq Invasion/ torture, USA behaving like the countries it tries to have moral superiority over is automatically a *GASP!* LIBUHRAL!!!
I'm a centrist who wouldn't mind a voted dictator and nation-wide voting by the people on important issues (like we had in Brazil on gun laws, the people chose, not the government), military service (whether the army, or helping with emergency community service) in exchange for voting rights, so please assume elsewhere, thank you.Also, if you think
JCM
LIIIBS!Armadillo said:
LIIIBS!
LIIIBS!
LIIIBS!
Heh, thats another funny thing about the far-right (and supporters), anyone that isnt a far-right lunatic, disagrees with the Iraq Invasion/ torture, USA behaving like the countries it tries to have moral superiority over is automatically a *GASP!* LIBUHRAL!!!
I'm a centrist who wouldn't mind a voted dictator and nation-wide voting by the people on important issues (like we had in Brazil on gun laws, the people chose, not the government), military service (whether the army, or helping with emergency community service) in exchange for voting rights, so please assume elsewhere, thank you.Also, if you think
Just because some places (like FARK) are full of shite, doesn't mean forumites who have been for years here can' t mention the odd poop that appears on the carpet (no, not you JacobPooP, sit down), thankfully moderation here has been great.Armadillo said:
#458
Troll
Troll
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JCM
JCM
#460
ElJuski
ElJuski
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Armadillo
Armadillo
Now see, I made my point as a libertarian, not a conservative. Uber-conservatives have a way of pissing me off in a variety of ways, but so far I haven't seen a radical right-wing post worth picking off. My point was that JCM and Troll came off as arrogant and derisive in their opinions of conservatives, not that I hate all liberals or I believe that the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Most Holy will smite mine enemies because I am just and you are wicked or anything like that. Liberals have quite a few good ideas, as do conservatives. Both sides also have incredibly terrible ideas. Again, the ATTITUDE is what I took issue with. That's all.
You're all homos. THAT'S how you troll, Troll.
You're all homos. THAT'S how you troll, Troll.
#462
Troll
But hey, apparently it's my fault for not trolling enough. Or too much. I'm still not clear on that part, since it depends on who you ask, the time of day, direction of the wind, etc.
Troll
Well, my apologies. I wasn't trying to say that consevatives don't make good points. I just found Dieb's post to be exceptionally well written and organized well, regardless of political affiliation. Thus my joke wasn't meant to really pass judgement on one side or the other, just take a jab at JCM and GB going back and forth.Armadillo said:Now see, I made my point as a libertarian, not a conservative. Uber-conservatives have a way of pissing me off in a variety of ways, but so far I haven't seen a radical right-wing post worth picking off. My point was that JCM and Troll came off as arrogant and derisive in their opinions of conservatives, not that I hate all liberals or I believe that the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Most Holy will smite mine enemies because I am just and you are wicked or anything like that. Liberals have quite a few good ideas, as do conservatives. Both sides also have incredibly terrible ideas. Again, the ATTITUDE is what I took issue with. That's all.
You're all homos. THAT'S how you troll, Troll.
But hey, apparently it's my fault for not trolling enough. Or too much. I'm still not clear on that part, since it depends on who you ask, the time of day, direction of the wind, etc.
#463
Armadillo
Now Troll, does the STYLE of trolling differ when the weather changes? Does dew point and wind chill factor in any way?
Armadillo
I agree. Dieb's post was excellent, and hopefully they contribute more around here. Political boards need more people like that.A Troll said:Well, my apologies. I wasn't trying to say that consevatives don't make good points. I just found Dieb's post to be exceptionally well written and organized well, regardless of political affiliation. Thus my joke wasn't meant to really pass judgement on one side or the other, just take a jab at JCM and GB going back and forth.Armadillo said:Now see, I made my point as a libertarian, not a conservative. Uber-conservatives have a way of pissing me off in a variety of ways, but so far I haven't seen a radical right-wing post worth picking off. My point was that JCM and Troll came off as arrogant and derisive in their opinions of conservatives, not that I hate all liberals or I believe that the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Most Holy will smite mine enemies because I am just and you are wicked or anything like that. Liberals have quite a few good ideas, as do conservatives. Both sides also have incredibly terrible ideas. Again, the ATTITUDE is what I took issue with. That's all.
You're all homos. THAT'S how you troll, Troll.
But hey, apparently it's my fault for not trolling enough. Or too much. I'm still not clear on that part, since it depends on who you ask, the time of day, direction of the wind, etc.
Now Troll, does the STYLE of trolling differ when the weather changes? Does dew point and wind chill factor in any way?
#464
Espy
Espy
Watch your backs. I have a dull and rusty butter knife and a hunger for revenge.Futureking said:He got espy? I've can't let my guard down now.A Troll said:It's true, I'm usually not trying to troll, but with Espy I just couldn't resist. :teeth:Espy said:You know, for a troll he has no history of trolling so until it's proved otherwise I just take him at face value. I thought I was being aggressive but apparently not enough.Iaculus said:
If he was truly trolling then I tip my hat to him and give him one internet cookie.
Anyone who goes back in this thread on the 23rd will find an exchange where Espy got me hook, line, and sinker. I've been trying for a bit to pay him back, but he's wily. I think I may have just succeeded.
You should like, post this in the epic win thread.
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#465
Dieb
Dieb
Hey, my post managed to start a discussion! Of course, it was a discussion about the evils of liberals and conservatives and trolling, not torture, but hey, I'll take what I can get.
Anyway, thanks for the compliments from various people, it took be about an hour to research the whole damn thing, but it was totally worth it. I myself had been calling waterboarding and the other examples of torture by this administration war crimes without knowing the legal justifications for that. It's both satisfying (turns out there are pretty damn good reasons to think it is) and completely horrifying (THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES MIGHT BE GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES! Yea, I find that horrifying.)
Anyway, thanks for the compliments from various people, it took be about an hour to research the whole damn thing, but it was totally worth it. I myself had been calling waterboarding and the other examples of torture by this administration war crimes without knowing the legal justifications for that. It's both satisfying (turns out there are pretty damn good reasons to think it is) and completely horrifying (THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES MIGHT BE GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES! Yea, I find that horrifying.)
#466
JCM
JCM
Did armadillo avoid saying "liberals" again, even knowing Im a centrist and Troll is just a troll?
Try talking one post without channeling Invader talking about liberals. Cmon, its not that hard, I have nothing against the rest of your post, but that "liberals' shtick was tired when pvponline was still a freeboards forum 7 years ago, and didn't improve when Janissary wore it out in the image forums 5 years ago.
Just do what we do, dont take him seriously, oh, and get back to roleplaying a troll.
Libertarian, like Invader and Gasbandit and the far-right in FARK?Armadillo said:Now see, I made my point as a libertarian, not a conservative... *snip* LIBERALS!!
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Try talking one post without channeling Invader talking about liberals. Cmon, its not that hard, I have nothing against the rest of your post, but that "liberals' shtick was tired when pvponline was still a freeboards forum 7 years ago, and didn't improve when Janissary wore it out in the image forums 5 years ago.
For what matters, I agree, although just be ready, as soon as Gasbandit comes back to work (he only posts from work, hurray for libertarian ideals) he'll probably ignore all the points and repeat something you've heard before in O'Reilly's show, to be fair I do rabble on the right, but thats just to poke fun on the vocal right, as the left has kept to themselves without absurdities in these forums, so there's nothing to make fun of.Dieb said:Hey, my post managed to start a discussion! Of course, it was a discussion about the evils of liberals and conservatives and trolling, not torture, but hey, I'll take what I can get.
Anyway, thanks for the compliments from various people, it took be about an hour to research the whole damn thing, but it was totally worth it. I myself had been calling waterboarding and the other examples of torture by this administration war crimes without knowing the legal justifications for that. It's both satisfying (turns out there are pretty damn good reasons to think it is) and completely horrifying (THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES MIGHT BE GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES! Yea, I find that horrifying.)
Just do what we do, dont take him seriously, oh, and get back to roleplaying a troll.
#467
Armadillo
Armadillo
Did you even READ my last post, or did you stop the second the word "liberal" appeared? Hey, thanks for the pigeonholing! I wasn't aware that I was a member of the far right, what with my agnosticism, pro-gay marriage and pro-drug-legalization stances. Huh, you learn something new every day! :roll:JCM said:Did armadillo avoid saying "liberals" again, even knowing Im a centrist and Troll is just a troll?Libertarian, like Invader and Gasbandit and the far-right in FARK?Armadillo said:Now see, I made my point as a libertarian, not a conservative... *snip* LIBERALS!!
LIIIBS!
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Try talking one post without channeling Invader talking about liberals. Cmon, its not that hard, I have nothing against the rest of your post, but that "liberals' shtick was tired when pvponline was still a freeboards forum 7 years ago, and didn't improve when Janissary wore it out in the image forums 5 years ago.
#468
JCM
JCM
#469
Iaculus
I think what JCM's foaming about in his usual rabid manner is that your post came across as oddly muddled. Why bring up liberals at all? Unless they're as screamingly blatant as, say, Invader, it's not a good idea to classify people as 'liberals' or 'conservatives' based on their responses to a single political debate.
Iaculus
Well, it rather depends what version of 'left versus right' we're playing today. It's either liberals versus conservatives or socialists versus libertarians. Most confusing.Armadillo said:Did you even READ my last post, or did you stop the second the word "liberal" appeared? Hey, thanks for the pigeonholing! I wasn't aware that I was a member of the far right, what with my agnosticism, pro-gay marriage and pro-drug-legalization stances. Huh, you learn something new every day! :roll:JCM said:Did armadillo avoid saying "liberals" again, even knowing Im a centrist and Troll is just a troll?Libertarian, like Invader and Gasbandit and the far-right in FARK?Armadillo said:Now see, I made my point as a libertarian, not a conservative... *snip* LIBERALS!!
LIIIBS!
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Try talking one post without channeling Invader talking about liberals. Cmon, its not that hard, I have nothing against the rest of your post, but that "liberals' shtick was tired when pvponline was still a freeboards forum 7 years ago, and didn't improve when Janissary wore it out in the image forums 5 years ago.
I think what JCM's foaming about in his usual rabid manner is that your post came across as oddly muddled. Why bring up liberals at all? Unless they're as screamingly blatant as, say, Invader, it's not a good idea to classify people as 'liberals' or 'conservatives' based on their responses to a single political debate.
#470
JCM
JCM
I prefer rabid hammering sourced facts past bias from years of living as bitches to two political parties, to the heads of anonymous people who take the Internet too seriously, otherwise polite talk to the others thank you.
#471
Iaculus
Some of us have to clean up afterwards, you know.
Iaculus
Oh, come on, are you saying that there isn't one iota of foam there?JCM said:I prefer rabid hammering sourced facts past bias from years of living as bitches to two political parties, to the heads of anonymous people who take the Internet too seriously, otherwise polite talk to the others thank you.
Some of us have to clean up afterwards, you know.
#472
Armadillo
Armadillo
#473
ElJuski
ElJuski
#474
JCM
JCM
Fair enough, and I apologize for the snarkiness and rather crude reply, seems that I was mistaken and you are one of the sane ones. guys.Armadillo said:
Nah, I havent been drinking enough to produce foam, so I'd suggest you stop wiping that white liquid.Iaculus said:Oh, come on, are you saying that there isn't one iota of foam there?JCM said:I prefer rabid hammering sourced facts past bias from years of living as bitches to two political parties, to the heads of anonymous people who take the Internet too seriously, otherwise polite talk to the others thank you.
Some of us have to clean up afterwards, you know.
#475
Mr_Chaz
Mr_Chaz
#476
Armadillo
Armadillo
#477
JCM
JCM
#478
Mr_Chaz
Perhaps slightly clearer: I don't think the population as a whole would be organised enough to help everyone out, so I think we need a central body to help.
Mr_Chaz
Yeah I spent ages trying to find a way to word it that didn't make the right sound like cruel bastards, didn't quite make it. Almost mindArmadillo said:
Perhaps slightly clearer: I don't think the population as a whole would be organised enough to help everyone out, so I think we need a central body to help.
#479
Armadillo
The problem with a more collectivist mindset is that ultimately, there is no greater incentive to improve your position in life than being uncomfortable. I'm not saying that we should let people starve in the streets with no way to survive if their situation is dire, but if society starts to provide a comfortable life for its citizens, there is no real impulse to go out and get a better job, more education, etc.
I'll put my own life up as an example: My wife is from a small town in central Wisconsin, where the main employer is a hospital. If you have a medical degree you're set, but there's nowhere within 120 miles to get that degree. So, if you stay in this town after high school, your options are very limited: go to a local tech school to learn a trade, grab a job at the print shop or cabinet maker's, or most often, work at the clinic in a non-medical role (clerical, insurance office). My wife left town and came up to the Twin Cities to go to school for Chemical Engineering. Nine years after graduation, her career is doing quite well, and it's all because she took the initiative to improve her life because she didn't want to be stuck in that small town the rest of her life.
Myself, I have a Culinary Arts degree and a Management degree, but last year I decided that the job prospects in those fields were unsatisfactory for where I want to be in terms of comfortability, and also that we wouldn't be able to give our daughter the best life we felt we could. So, I decided to go back to school for Food Science, which is a big industry in this part of the country, and would open many more doors than my other degrees would. It's been a difficult transition, but it'll be so worth it when I graduate in two years.
My point is, the way a society best raises the standard of life for its citizens isn't by simply giving people money, a house, or a job; it's by ensuring equal opportunities for all to succeed. The actual decision-making and work is up to the individual.
Does my rambling diatribe make sense to everybody? :teeth:
Armadillo
Since you called yourself "left-wing," I feel comfortable assuming your political stance. :teeth:Mr_Chaz said:Yeah I spent ages trying to find a way to word it that didn't make the right sound like cruel bastards, didn't quite make it. Almost mind
Perhaps slightly clearer: I don't think the population as a whole would be organised enough to help everyone out, so I think we need a central body to help.
The problem with a more collectivist mindset is that ultimately, there is no greater incentive to improve your position in life than being uncomfortable. I'm not saying that we should let people starve in the streets with no way to survive if their situation is dire, but if society starts to provide a comfortable life for its citizens, there is no real impulse to go out and get a better job, more education, etc.
I'll put my own life up as an example: My wife is from a small town in central Wisconsin, where the main employer is a hospital. If you have a medical degree you're set, but there's nowhere within 120 miles to get that degree. So, if you stay in this town after high school, your options are very limited: go to a local tech school to learn a trade, grab a job at the print shop or cabinet maker's, or most often, work at the clinic in a non-medical role (clerical, insurance office). My wife left town and came up to the Twin Cities to go to school for Chemical Engineering. Nine years after graduation, her career is doing quite well, and it's all because she took the initiative to improve her life because she didn't want to be stuck in that small town the rest of her life.
Myself, I have a Culinary Arts degree and a Management degree, but last year I decided that the job prospects in those fields were unsatisfactory for where I want to be in terms of comfortability, and also that we wouldn't be able to give our daughter the best life we felt we could. So, I decided to go back to school for Food Science, which is a big industry in this part of the country, and would open many more doors than my other degrees would. It's been a difficult transition, but it'll be so worth it when I graduate in two years.
My point is, the way a society best raises the standard of life for its citizens isn't by simply giving people money, a house, or a job; it's by ensuring equal opportunities for all to succeed. The actual decision-making and work is up to the individual.
Does my rambling diatribe make sense to everybody? :teeth:
#480
GasBandit
As for the Geneva conventions, the whole point of the Geneva convention was to set out the definition that if you are a soldier you MUST wear a uniform, as well as other requirements. By intentionally not wearing uniforms in order to blend in with civilian populations, non-uniformed combatants by definition do not have claim to the rights of protection of uniformed soldiers under the Geneva convention.
Moving on to today's links -
Everybody had to put up with 8 years of comparing Bush to Hitler, get ready folks, for 4 to 8 years of comparing Obama to Hitler. And no, this ain't the Ben Stein bit from the convention.
Obama has made Clinton EPA head Carol Browner an advisor. That's right, good ol' "global warming is gonna kill us all tomorrow," Audubon society chair, was-but-suddenly-now-isn't-a-socialist Carol Browner.
Speaking of global warming, if you search google you're warming the planet. Also, European governments are finalizing their plans to regulate the size of "energy-guzzling" flatscreen plasma televisions. Yes, folks .. the government will be deciding how large of a plasma TV you should be allowed to buy.
Here's a must-read article from the Wall Street Journal explaining how we are living the real-life version of Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged." Whatever you do don't pay attention.
President Bush said that he refused to bailout the Republican Party by withdrawing from Iraq. The Republicans have a lot more than just Iraq to worry about. Complete abandonment of their party identity and convictions, for starters.
The producers and entrepreneurs are fleeing California at record rates. I'll give you one guess as to why ...... taxes.
England's government is launching an investigation as to why only 10 government school teachers have been fired for being incompetent in the last eight years.
GasBandit
FTFY. Seriously, that was a new low there JCM. Guess you just don't have the staying power you used to.JCM said:I prefer crying for moderators to lock the thread when somebody actually starts showing the infospam I deluge a thread with actually doesn't back up my claim whatsoever thank you.
As for the Geneva conventions, the whole point of the Geneva convention was to set out the definition that if you are a soldier you MUST wear a uniform, as well as other requirements. By intentionally not wearing uniforms in order to blend in with civilian populations, non-uniformed combatants by definition do not have claim to the rights of protection of uniformed soldiers under the Geneva convention.
So much for that argument.
Moving on to today's links -
Everybody had to put up with 8 years of comparing Bush to Hitler, get ready folks, for 4 to 8 years of comparing Obama to Hitler. And no, this ain't the Ben Stein bit from the convention.
Obama has made Clinton EPA head Carol Browner an advisor. That's right, good ol' "global warming is gonna kill us all tomorrow," Audubon society chair, was-but-suddenly-now-isn't-a-socialist Carol Browner.
Speaking of global warming, if you search google you're warming the planet. Also, European governments are finalizing their plans to regulate the size of "energy-guzzling" flatscreen plasma televisions. Yes, folks .. the government will be deciding how large of a plasma TV you should be allowed to buy.
Here's a must-read article from the Wall Street Journal explaining how we are living the real-life version of Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged." Whatever you do don't pay attention.
President Bush said that he refused to bailout the Republican Party by withdrawing from Iraq. The Republicans have a lot more than just Iraq to worry about. Complete abandonment of their party identity and convictions, for starters.
The producers and entrepreneurs are fleeing California at record rates. I'll give you one guess as to why ...... taxes.
England's government is launching an investigation as to why only 10 government school teachers have been fired for being incompetent in the last eight years.
#481
ElJuski
ElJuski
#482
Mr_Chaz
And I liked to define my terms of reference for left-wing just to make sure the US/UK definition is close enough to apply :teeth:
Mr_Chaz
Interestingly I actually agree with most of that. I guess the difference is probably more in what we define as a comfortable life. I don't think the government should be providing a comfortable life, but I think it can get us closer whilst still improving society.Armadillo said:Since you called yourself "left-wing," I feel comfortable assuming your political stance. :teeth:Mr_Chaz said:Yeah I spent ages trying to find a way to word it that didn't make the right sound like cruel bastards, didn't quite make it. Almost mind
Perhaps slightly clearer: I don't think the population as a whole would be organised enough to help everyone out, so I think we need a central body to help.
The problem with a more collectivist mindset is that ultimately, there is no greater incentive to improve your position in life than being uncomfortable. I'm not saying that we should let people starve in the streets with no way to survive if their situation is dire, but if society starts to provide a comfortable life for its citizens, there is no real impulse to go out and get a better job, more education, etc.
I'll put my own life up as an example: My wife is from a small town in central Wisconsin, where the main employer is a hospital. If you have a medical degree you're set, but there's nowhere within 120 miles to get that degree. So, if you stay in this town after high school, your options are very limited: go to a local tech school to learn a trade, grab a job at the print shop or cabinet maker's, or most often, work at the clinic in a non-medical role (clerical, insurance office). My wife left town and came up to the Twin Cities to go to school for Chemical Engineering. Nine years after graduation, her career is doing quite well, and it's all because she took the initiative to improve her life because she didn't want to be stuck in that small town the rest of her life.
Myself, I have a Culinary Arts degree and a Management degree, but last year I decided that the job prospects in those fields were unsatisfactory for where I want to be in terms of comfortability, and also that we wouldn't be able to give our daughter the best life we felt we could. So, I decided to go back to school for Food Science, which is a big industry in this part of the country, and would open many more doors than my other degrees would. It's been a difficult transition, but it'll be so worth it when I graduate in two years.
My point is, the way a society best raises the standard of life for its citizens isn't by simply giving people money, a house, or a job; it's by ensuring equal opportunities for all to succeed. The actual decision-making and work is up to the individual.
Does my rambling diatribe make sense to everybody? :teeth:
And I liked to define my terms of reference for left-wing just to make sure the US/UK definition is close enough to apply :teeth:
#483
zero
zero
#484
JCM
Sorry, I dont have time to play with you anymore.
Heck, the afghan people used to cower at the sight of the black Turban, and seeing that members of another militant groups were easily captured in Malaysia IN THE MIDDLE of the end of Ramashan celebrations in a crowded city in malaysia (Al-arquam, who used a dark-green cloth around the sholders, and dark-colored turbans with a green stripe running along it), it makes me wonder how the US "intelligent" army would survive without its superior weaponry with the low IQ of soldiers/local especialists.
For untravelled dumbasses who cant distiguish a Sunni from a Shiite, I may suggest reading books talking about Afghanistan during the time of Taliban, like "the Kite runner", "The Women of Afghanistan Under the Taliban" and "Taliban". Of course some retards living in a fantasy world where some uniform recognizable by several Muslim groups and used to scare the populace somehow "isnt" a uniform, but thats because its easier than to admit that their country didnt learn enough about the enemy to say something like "aim for the black turbans sticking out in the crowd"
EDIT:Seeing you pulled your article from wiki, how about one on the Taliban uniform?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Geo_S ... an_uniform
JCM
:slywink:GasBandit said:FTFY. Seriously, that was a new low there JCM. Guess you just have a life, instead of having to repost the same post over and over for my entertainmentJCM said:I prefer telling moderators to lock a thread when the last pages were just me reposting the same posts while some anonymous guy keeps closing his eyes and saying "nu-uh" thank you.
Sorry, I dont have time to play with you anymore.
Mind you, some of the captured were combatants in war, wearing the Taliban uniform, which were light brown Pakistani vests and pants, yellowish green jacket and the pitch-black thick Turban, which in Afghanistan was only used by the Taliban, and was actually their mark of honor, always worn when in battle and when carrying out official duty.Gasbandit said:
Heck, the afghan people used to cower at the sight of the black Turban, and seeing that members of another militant groups were easily captured in Malaysia IN THE MIDDLE of the end of Ramashan celebrations in a crowded city in malaysia (Al-arquam, who used a dark-green cloth around the sholders, and dark-colored turbans with a green stripe running along it), it makes me wonder how the US "intelligent" army would survive without its superior weaponry with the low IQ of soldiers/local especialists.
For untravelled dumbasses who cant distiguish a Sunni from a Shiite, I may suggest reading books talking about Afghanistan during the time of Taliban, like "the Kite runner", "The Women of Afghanistan Under the Taliban" and "Taliban". Of course some retards living in a fantasy world where some uniform recognizable by several Muslim groups and used to scare the populace somehow "isnt" a uniform, but thats because its easier than to admit that their country didnt learn enough about the enemy to say something like "aim for the black turbans sticking out in the crowd"
EDIT:Seeing you pulled your article from wiki, how about one on the Taliban uniform?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Geo_S ... an_uniform
I agree on that, but I doubt a corrupt body like the government can do anything without making us pay more for a good % to be stolen by corrupt officials.Mr_Chaz said:
#485
Armadillo
If you believe the government can "get us closer" to a more comfortable life, the question then becomes how that is accomplished. Since the government doesn't generate income beyond taxation, then by definition you have to take money in the form of taxes from one group of people and distribute it to another group, which is edging up on socialism. Personally, I'm not a big fan of socialism, since in my mind it can stifle innovation and take away incentives to perform. I believe you reap the benefits of your hard work, and take the risk of failure if you conduct business poorly or if a gamble doesn't pay off. As such, I have a MAJOR problem with bailing out Wall Street and giving "tax cuts" to people who didn't pay taxes in the first place, but apparently a lot of people in this country disagree with me, since we've recently elected people in the form of senators, representatives, and even a President who are willing to spend like it's going out of style, even if it means racking up $1.2 TRILLION of debt. :aaahhh:
Not that the current/soon-to-be-previous President was much better.
Armadillo
I'm willing to bet that the American definition of "left-wing" is more conservative than the European/British definition. We're a bit more right-leaning on this side of the pond. Could you tell? :teeth:Mr_Chaz said:
If you believe the government can "get us closer" to a more comfortable life, the question then becomes how that is accomplished. Since the government doesn't generate income beyond taxation, then by definition you have to take money in the form of taxes from one group of people and distribute it to another group, which is edging up on socialism. Personally, I'm not a big fan of socialism, since in my mind it can stifle innovation and take away incentives to perform. I believe you reap the benefits of your hard work, and take the risk of failure if you conduct business poorly or if a gamble doesn't pay off. As such, I have a MAJOR problem with bailing out Wall Street and giving "tax cuts" to people who didn't pay taxes in the first place, but apparently a lot of people in this country disagree with me, since we've recently elected people in the form of senators, representatives, and even a President who are willing to spend like it's going out of style, even if it means racking up $1.2 TRILLION of debt. :aaahhh:
Not that the current/soon-to-be-previous President was much better.
#486
Troll
Troll
#487
GasBandit
GasBandit
#488
Armadillo
Armadillo
#489
GasBandit
GasBandit
#490
Covar
Covar
I lol'd
#491
Mr_Chaz
Mr_Chaz
Well yeah I often would describe myself as a socialist, but I prefer competent socialism to the type you get over there! lol.Armadillo said:I'm willing to bet that the American definition of "left-wing" is more conservative than the European/British definition. We're a bit more right-leaning on this side of the pond. Could you tell? :teeth:Mr_Chaz said:
If you believe the government can "get us closer" to a more comfortable life, the question then becomes how that is accomplished. Since the government doesn't generate income beyond taxation, then by definition you have to take money in the form of taxes from one group of people and distribute it to another group, which is edging up on socialism. Personally, I'm not a big fan of socialism, since in my mind it can stifle innovation and take away incentives to perform. I believe you reap the benefits of your hard work, and take the risk of failure if you conduct business poorly or if a gamble doesn't pay off. As such, I have a MAJOR problem with bailing out Wall Street and giving "tax cuts" to people who didn't pay taxes in the first place, but apparently a lot of people in this country disagree with me, since we've recently elected people in the form of senators, representatives, and even a President who are willing to spend like it's going out of style, even if it means racking up $1.2 TRILLION of debt. :aaahhh:
Not that the current/soon-to-be-previous President was much better.
#492
JCM
JCM
#493
Dieb
Dieb
#494
GasBandit
GasBandit
#495
Mr_Chaz
Mr_Chaz
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GasBandit
GasBandit
#497
Mr_Chaz
Mr_Chaz
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GasBandit
GasBandit
#499
Dieb
Dieb
#500
Troll
Troll